girl training to wrestle in Japan...ouch!

[CrazySting]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDN3RMNYQlM

It's part of the Gaia girls documentary Kim Longinotto did a few years ago.

I'm a bit sympathetic to the woman training her. She comes off as more genuinely wanting to help rather than just being bully. She has a painful way of getting the message across though.

[Dolph Zalgo]

OMG!!! IN THE FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!

If the DIVA SEARCH was like that I would probably like it more. It would also help to keep useless skanks like Torrie Wilson out of the ring...

[CrazySting]

to be fair, most male wrestlers wouldn't expect to get kicked full force in the face either.

[krill]

So I see Bob holly and JBL arnt the only dicks in wrestling who like to bully people.

[hollywood]

Damn.

Just...damn.

[CrazySting]

krill said:

So I see Bob holly and JBL arnt the only dicks in wrestling who like to bully people.

I'd argue the woman was only trying to prepare her.

In Japan wrestling is way more stiff than in the states. You have to mentally and physically tough. I'm not saying she was right but I can understand why she would think she had to do it.

It's not the case of Bob Holly, where he's desperate to prove what a tough guy he is by bullying a rookie, that trainer did think she was helping the girl in the long run.

[hollywood]

cenamark21 said:

krill said:

So I see Bob holly and JBL arnt the only dicks in wrestling who like to bully people.

I'd argue the woman was only trying to prepare her.

In Japan wrestling is way more stiff than in the states. You have to mentally and physically tough. I'm not saying she was right but I can understand why she would think she had to do it.

It's not the case of Bob Holly, where he's desperate to prove what a tough guy he is by bullying a rookie, that trainer did think she was helping the girl in the long run.

I think I agree. This lady gave the girl one solid kick to the mouth, where Holly beat the living hell out of a guy in the corner.

At any rate, just based on this, Holly certainly seems like a BIGGER bully.

[Mozenrath]

krill said:

So I see Bob holly and JBL arnt the only dicks in wrestling who like to bully people.

This is puro(well, joshi).

If you don't learn to take it early, you WILL leave the business on a stretcher.

[CrazySting]

Bob Holly beating up that tough enough guy was different to me. He was trying show how real it could turn, but in WWE at least, if your opponent messes up a move, you might be a bit stiff with them afterwards, but you don't beat the holy hell out of them and try to kill them. It has happened (perry saturn and he got punished for it) but it's pretty rare.

[threev]

kiddobradley said:

krill said:

So I see Bob holly and JBL arnt the only dicks in wrestling who like to bully people.

This is puro(well, joshi).

If you don't learn to take it early, you WILL leave the business on a stretcher.

Then this sort of trash ought to be banned from the entire world.

[Mozenrath]

threev said:

kiddobradley said:

This is puro(well, joshi).

If you don't learn to take it early, you WILL leave the business on a stretcher.

Then this sort of trash ought to be banned from the entire world.

Look, if the Japanese had a problem with it, it wouldn't be around.

So the girl got stiffed. If she wants to quit or train elsewhere, she can do so if she wants to. If she can tolerate it, so can you.

[CrazySting]

I can't actually remember if she stuck with it. It's been a while since I've seen the documentray. I remember one of the girls dropped out, but one of them stuck with it and the end was her making her debut. Can't remember if it was that girl. Anyone who's seen it tell me?

I don't really watch japanese wrestling (men or woman) but I remember seeing Gaia girls and being gobsmacked.

Wrestling seems to be a lot more respectable in Japan. I remember one of the girls parents were over the moon she wanted to join Gaia. It seems very prestigious.

[krill]

So by the logic of that japanese woman, I should break my sons arm and them shout at him saying if you try skateboarding, this "could" happen to you".

[skakid57]

cornholio said:

OMG!!! IN THE FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!
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GOLD

[threev]

kiddobradley said:

threev said:

Then this sort of trash ought to be banned from the entire world.

Look, if the Japanese had a problem with it, it wouldn't be around.

So the girl got stiffed. If she wants to quit or train elsewhere, she can do so if she wants to. If she can tolerate it, so can you.

Maybe there are parts of every culture that are blindly and meaninglessly tolerated and the Japanese are no exception. Maybe the idea of someone getting full force kicked in the face should not be accepted anywhere in the world, and maybe this girl shouldn't and didn't tolerate it.

[Totorob101]

Iv seen that docu and its pretty brutal.I cant remember what happened as i havent seen it for a long time but i belive the young girl is Saika Takuchi and was nailed by Meiko Satomura.As hard as i t is to watch,its a fantastic docu and Saika learsn from that and more and finally becomes a joshi pro wrestler.She retired some time back now but she made it but i think some of what happened in that was pretty harsh and hard to watch.

[CrazySting]

What's weird is that Meiko Satomura, if wiki is correct , was only 20/21 years old at the time of filming. But she seems like some hardened veteren. Crazy to think of a girl, just out of her teenage years, doing that to someone.

It was a good documentary, but some of the stuff they have to go through is just brutal.

[The Thread Barbi]

I saw that, and since pro-wrestling isn't training for war in Sparta, let's refer to little known wrestler, trained by two Japanese gentlemen - Bret Sargeant Hart:



(Paraphrased)
"Wrestling is an art form. You don't deliberately try to hurt someone. That's not what it is about. The punches look real. The kicks look full contact, but at the end of the day, you go home, no more bumped and bruised than a hockey player"

[Mozenrath]

coksf said:

I saw that, and since pro-wrestling isn't training for war in Sparta, let's refer to little known wrestler, trained by two Japanese gentlemen - Bret Sargeant Hart:



(Paraphrased)
"Wrestling is an art form. You don't deliberately try to hurt someone. That's not what it is about. The punches look real. The kicks look full contact, but at the end of the day, you go home, no more bumped and bruised than a hockey player"

Yeah, but I sometimes think comparing American wrestling to Japanese wrestling kind of misses the point. They might as well be too completely different businesses.

[Mozenrath]

threev said:

kiddobradley said:

Look, if the Japanese had a problem with it, it wouldn't be around.

So the girl got stiffed. If she wants to quit or train elsewhere, she can do so if she wants to. If she can tolerate it, so can you.

Maybe there are parts of every culture that are blindly and meaninglessly tolerated and the Japanese are no exception. Maybe the idea of someone getting full force kicked in the face should not be accepted anywhere in the world, and maybe this girl shouldn't and didn't tolerate it.

Again, this is by your standards. I'm not saying I agree with it, either, but you are judging this from a standpoint that they simply would not have.

For example, other countries would consider boxing and MMA as barbaric, while the US loves it, as it does big business. It's all relative.