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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 20, 2008 9:03:58 GMT -5
Now I love the Hulkster....but I was just watching the 1989 Royal Rumble. Hogan does the following:
1. Eliminates his best friend Randy Savage from behind while Savage is fighting Bad News Brown.
2. Is fairly and cleanly eliminated by Boss Man and Akeem. Drags Boss Man under the ropes, throws him into a ringside table.
3. Tries to re-enter the Rumble. 20 men had been eliminated by this point, including the dubious elimination of Andre the Giant. None of them tried to re-enter. (Savage entered the ring to yell at Hogan, not to re-enter the match)
4. Illegally eliminates the Boss Man after being eliminated himself.
5. Continues pummeling the Boss Man up the ramp, using a table and steel briefcase as weapons.
Seriously...HOW the f*** was he a good guy? Jesse Ventura accurately describes Hogan as a cheater. Gorilla Monsoon admits he feels Hogan is above any sort of rules. This...this clouds my childhood....
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 20, 2008 9:10:46 GMT -5
Now I love the Hulkster....but I was just watching the 1989 Royal Rumble. Hogan does the following: 1. Eliminates his best friend Randy Savage from behind while Savage is fighting Bad News Brown. 2. Is fairly and cleanly eliminated by Boss Man and Akeem. Drags Boss Man under the ropes, throws him into a ringside table. 3. Tries to re-enter the Rumble. 20 men had been eliminated by this point, including the dubious elimination of Andre the Giant. None of them tried to re-enter. (Savage entered the ring to yell at Hogan, not to re-enter the match) 4. Illegally eliminates the Boss Man after being eliminated himself. 5. Continues pummeling the Boss Man up the ramp, using a table and steel briefcase as weapons. Seriously...HOW the smurf was he a good guy? Jesse Ventura accurately describes Hogan as a cheater. Gorilla Monsoon admits he feels Hogan is above any sort of rules. This...this clouds my childhood.... In the case of eliminating Savage, it was accidental as the momentum from eliminating Bad News sent Savage over the top as well. Also during that bout Hogan saved Savage from getting eliminated, but when Hogan was in trouble Savage didn't save him which was more fuel to the tension leading to the split. And in the case of fighting the Boss Man back to the dressing room, he was beaten down by him on national TV and they were in the midst of a big feud themselves, would you have them shake hands and not lay a hand on one another? |
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Post by hutter on Jan 20, 2008 9:12:13 GMT -5
Hogan was a big crybaby who took the ball with him when things didn't go his way. Waaaaah.
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Post by skillz on Jan 20, 2008 9:24:56 GMT -5
Now I love the Hulkster....but I was just watching the 1989 Royal Rumble. Hogan does the following: 1. Eliminates his best friend Randy Savage from behind while Savage is fighting Bad News Brown. 2. Is fairly and cleanly eliminated by Boss Man and Akeem. Drags Boss Man under the ropes, throws him into a ringside table. 3. Tries to re-enter the Rumble. 20 men had been eliminated by this point, including the dubious elimination of Andre the Giant. None of them tried to re-enter. (Savage entered the ring to yell at Hogan, not to re-enter the match) 4. Illegally eliminates the Boss Man after being eliminated himself. 5. Continues pummeling the Boss Man up the ramp, using a table and steel briefcase as weapons. Seriously...HOW the smurf was he a good guy? Jesse Ventura accurately describes Hogan as a cheater. Gorilla Monsoon admits he feels Hogan is above any sort of rules. This...this clouds my childhood.... As Hiroshi pointed out, Hogan and Bossman were in the midst of a feud in which Bossman beat the crap out of Hogan with a night stick on TV. In the Rumble, Hogan was eliminated by both the Twin Towers (who the Mega Powers were feuding with at the time), so it was just a case of getting revenge. The Savage spot was basically repeated the following year with Warrior. Hogan went to hit Bad News and the momentum threw Savage over as well. The seeds were already being planted for Savage not caring about Hogan anymore (hence Savage not trying to save Hogan in the Rumble and from a Twin Towers beatdown on TV), so that spot made sense. Just added more tension to the feud. Ironically in 1990 when Warrior was thrown out the same way, he came back in (like a "poor sport") and proceeded to hit Rude and Barbarian before running to the back. Not all babyfaces in the 80's/early-90's were kissing babies in the audience. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 20, 2008 9:54:51 GMT -5
While the Boss Man beatdown was one of the most heinous things ever, Hogan comes off almost as bad, I feel.
For example, when Rick Martel turned on Tito Santana, did Tito start swinging chairs and interfering in matches? Of course not. He knew the only way to get revenge and maintain his dignity at the same time was to cleanly and fairly defeat the man who disgraced him with dropkicks and flying forearms.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 20, 2008 10:00:42 GMT -5
While the Boss Man beatdown was one of the most heinous things ever, Hogan comes off almost as bad, I feel. For example, when Rick Martel turned on Tito Santana, did Tito start swinging chairs and interfering in matches? Of course not. He knew the only way to get revenge and maintain his dignity at the same time was to cleanly and fairly defeat the man who disgraced him with dropkicks and flying forearms. Sometimes it's not enough to beat the guy in a match and seeing as Boss Man beat down Hogan in an interview segment rather than a matchup, I don't see anything wrong with a brawl between the two especially during a feud as heated as they had. But to each his own I guess. A lot of the babyfaces were "poor sports",Jim Duggan used his 2x4 at Survivor Series 88 to get himself DQed, and at that same Rumble match you mentioned, Jake Roberts after being eliminated comes back to scare Andre over the top rope. |
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 20, 2008 10:43:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I was always annoyed by his cheating too. To this day he still does Eye Pokes and Back Rakes.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jan 20, 2008 10:53:44 GMT -5
If you combine the incident at Royal Rumble 91 then yeah, he really is a bad sport.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2008 12:13:52 GMT -5
That damn Hogan!
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Post by dannyrctv on Jan 20, 2008 13:05:41 GMT -5
I thought Hogan was a total poor sport in the '92 Royal Rumble when Sid eliminated him fair and square.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 20, 2008 14:32:06 GMT -5
Hogan was never the upstanding goody two shoes everybody makes him out to be.
He as egocentric, often resorted to choking and eyeraking/poking, and would do what it takes to win.
this is also part of why I am a HUGE HULKAMANIAC
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Post by cuneo77 on Jan 20, 2008 16:54:45 GMT -5
if he didnt fight fire with fire,he'd of been a dork like backlund and not as big. however,as far as rumbles go,why wouldnt you eliminate a hulk, macho or warrior if you have the chance? as far as eliminating ppl after you are,the rules should reinstate that.
jericho,alex wright, christian all threw tantroms
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 21, 2008 12:49:05 GMT -5
I always thought that the Hogan/Savage feud would have been better if Hogan was the heel, chasing after Elizabeth, like Ventura always said he was. Heh "Lust" Hogan.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 21, 2008 13:24:09 GMT -5
While the Boss Man beatdown was one of the most heinous things ever, Hogan comes off almost as bad, I feel. For example, when Rick Martel turned on Tito Santana, did Tito start swinging chairs and interfering in matches? Of course not. He knew the only way to get revenge and maintain his dignity at the same time was to cleanly and fairly defeat the man who disgraced him with dropkicks and flying forearms. Sometimes it's not enough to beat the guy in a match and seeing as Boss Man beat down Hogan in an interview segment rather than a matchup, I don't see anything wrong with a brawl between the two especially during a feud as heated as they had. That beatdown is so awesome. Hogan gets blindsided during an interview segment was it brother love? and then he gets cuffed to the alter and brutally beaten. That was just something you never saw back then. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 21, 2008 13:26:49 GMT -5
Hogan's hypocrisies were frequently acknowledged by heel announcers, so it's not as if the promotions completely rode the lie.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Jan 21, 2008 14:18:02 GMT -5
Hogan's hypocrisies were frequently acknowledged by heel announcers, so it's not as if the promotions completely rode the lie. Which is why Ventura is my favorite commentator ever. He was never one to let Hogan's double standards and BS fly under the radar. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 21, 2008 14:48:20 GMT -5
People are making it seem as if Hogan was the only face to ever do things like that.
Guys like Savage, Piper, the Bushwhackers, and others would use heel tactics in their matches even as faces.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 21, 2008 17:46:12 GMT -5
Nah, I disagree with this example. Now, the circa-1992 Rumble Hogan, you could make an argument for, but the fans still popped for Justice's elimination...or was that only on the WWF edited version? I never saw the original broadcast where Hogan was apparently booed.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Jan 21, 2008 19:24:50 GMT -5
Nah, I disagree with this example. Now, the circa-1992 Rumble Hogan, you could make an argument for, but the fans still popped for Justice's elimination...or was that only on the WWF edited version? I never saw the original broadcast where Hogan was apparently booed. I have the PPV version. You can borrow it if you want  |
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