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Post by Throwback on Apr 24, 2008 18:20:22 GMT -5
Now how would you feel if I let the cat out of the bag and told you I was special needs and have been called retarded on here? would it change anything? probably not. Did the other person know though? I like you, but I don't know you, just what I see on this forum. I don't get easily offended (not saying you do), so if someone calls me a retard, I don't care. Now if they called my stepson one, I'll beat the crap out of them. that's the point I'd like to make. it really is the ONLY thing that gets me worked up. not mad, just worked up. I'd like to see one day everybody taking everyones feelings into play before they choose to say certain things. I shouldn't have to point out my illness for people not to talk to me that way. I hate it when people remark on things that people can't help. Like I said saying some thing retarded is no big deal. But when you start calling some body retarded. I see it as just wrong and not only that. Very uncreative.
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Post by RingoJ is a Horrible Man on Apr 24, 2008 18:22:38 GMT -5
If everybody started taking everyone else's feelings into play before they started talking to them, the only things they'd be able to get away with saying would be "hello" for the most part.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 24, 2008 18:24:19 GMT -5
I get both points, honestly I do, but when it comes down to it it's just an argument of semantics. I kind of compare it to my grandmother, from time to time she still uses racially unacceptable terms, but it's only because that was the normal term of her day. I think with words like gay and retarded, we have just grown up saying it. (not saying it's right or wrong) But long story short, habits are hard to change, and whether you make good points or not, some people will use it and some won't I get that. I really do. I grew up saying pop. others grew up saying soda. But I just wanted to point out that you (generalisation) are on a public forum and should think of that before posting.
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Post by the threadkiller on Apr 24, 2008 18:25:38 GMT -5
I agree with you that we should all think before speaking.
On another note, is Canuck really derogatory? I thought it was sort of a term of national pride, like Yankee is for us.
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Post by jfbop37 on Apr 24, 2008 18:26:23 GMT -5
Also, if Canuck is a negative word, then why is a pro hockey team named that? Am I not allowed to say the name merely because I'm American? I get both points, honestly I do, but when it comes down to it it's just an argument of semantics. I kind of compare it to my grandmother, from time to time she still uses racially unacceptable terms, but it's only because that was the normal term of her day. I think with words like gay and retarded, we have just grown up saying it. (not saying it's right or wrong) But long story short, habits are hard to change, and whether you make good points or not, some people will use it and some won't Change the word Canucks to Redskins and I think you'll answer your question.
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Post by The Wraith on Apr 24, 2008 18:27:31 GMT -5
I agree with you that we should all think before speaking. On another note, is Canuck really derogatory? I thought it was sort of a term of national pride, like Yankee is for us. Actually I just thought I'd check to see if Kanuck/Canuck meant anything, and it turns out it did. It's really about how you say it. "I'm proud to be a Mexican". as opposed to "Shut up, you damn Mexican".
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Post by Above Average on Apr 24, 2008 18:30:01 GMT -5
I think we should stop being overly sensitive to all the Politically Correctness crap. If someone says "that's a retarded idea" it doesn't mean to offend people who have actual mental conditions, or to use the PC term, "mentally challenged". Same goes for "gay" and for every other offensive word. Or should we stop asking people who's not paying attention "are you deaf?" or "are you blind?" in fear of hurting the feelings of people who are "aurally or visually challenged"? Does a mentally challenged person get magically healed if "we" stop using the "R word" out of its original context? And if you ask me, all that walking on egg shells about words and meanings is MORE offensive to them that the actual, not malicious, use of the word. As they say, "end thread".
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Post by Throwback on Apr 24, 2008 18:30:11 GMT -5
If everybody started taking everyone else's feelings into play before they started talking to them, the only things they'd be able to get away with saying would be "hello" for the most part. not true. I don't use slurs of any kind. i very rarely even swear. and I manage to have great conversations. I've also been called one of the nicest most polite person most people have met in real life. Not to toot my horn or anything. But just by the way I talk to people I get smiles, people are willing to do things for me and I've never once had anybody say I was a jerk. I don't feel I'm better than anybody. But I've always lived under the rule of don't do anything to somebody that you wouldn't have done to yourself. and maybe just maybe if more people would live that way the world wouldn't be the crap hole it is now.
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Post by the threadkiller on Apr 24, 2008 18:30:18 GMT -5
Well, I always thought we called them Canucks like Europeans call us Yanks. And honestly, I'm pretty fine with it. I just read some posts that were saying it was bad, and i thought I was just sort of out of the loop on that one.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Apr 24, 2008 18:31:32 GMT -5
I honestly didn't know Canuck was a slur until this thread. You learn something new everyday. Not that there's a ton of Canadians here in southern Georgia.
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Post by The Wraith on Apr 24, 2008 18:32:54 GMT -5
I honestly didn't know Canuck was a slur until this thread. You learn something new everyday. Not that there's a ton of Canadians here in southern Georgia. You don't know that. I see a ton of Chinese people here in South Texas. Heck, I have a roommate who is Chinese.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Apr 24, 2008 18:33:56 GMT -5
I honestly didn't know Canuck was a slur until this thread. You learn something new everyday. Not that there's a ton of Canadians here in southern Georgia. You don't know that. I see a ton of Chinese people here in South Texas. Heck, I have a roommate who is Chinese. No, I do. I knock on everyone's door and ask. I'm tired from doing it though and gonna go take a nap.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 24, 2008 18:34:29 GMT -5
I honestly didn't know Canuck was a slur until this thread. You learn something new everyday. Not that there's a ton of Canadians here in southern Georgia. well like somebody pointed out. Canuck is only offensive to non Canadians. there's "I'm proud to be a Canuck" then there's "get out of here ya Canuck" it's good to see this thread has gone to be about my screen name tho lol. And just like the Vancouver Canucks. there's also the New York Yankees. It's a form of pride for the people living there.
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Post by RingoJ is a Horrible Man on Apr 24, 2008 18:35:14 GMT -5
If everybody started taking everyone else's feelings into play before they started talking to them, the only things they'd be able to get away with saying would be "hello" for the most part. not true. I don't use slurs of any kind. i very rarely even swear. and I manage to have great conversations. I've also been called one of the nicest most polite person most people have met in real life. Not to toot my horn or anything. But just by the way I talk to people I get smiles, people are willing to do things for me and I've never once had anybody say I was a jerk. I don't feel I'm better than anybody. But I've always lived under the rule of don't do anything to somebody that you wouldn't have done to yourself. and maybe just maybe if more people would live that way the world wouldn't be the crap hole it is now. See, that's the difference between you and me. I don't watch what I say around other people. I say what i'm thinking and what i'm feeling, and I do often get called an asshole for it. But those same people who call me an asshole also respect me for saying what I feel without sugarcoating it, and for being brutally honest. I tend to think that most people don't actually say what they feel or think, and are afraid of just being flat out honest with people, because of the labels people want to attach to you for speaking your mind.
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Apr 24, 2008 18:37:15 GMT -5
And you're two different people. And both of you can do what you want. And neither of you is better than the other because of it. Agreed?
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Post by Kash Flagg on Apr 24, 2008 18:38:04 GMT -5
Group hug! And watch the hands skyhawk.
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Post by RingoJ is a Horrible Man on Apr 24, 2008 18:38:51 GMT -5
And you're two different people. And both of you can do what you want. And neither of you is better than the other because of it. Agreed? I never said I was better than anyone else.
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Post by the threadkiller on Apr 24, 2008 18:38:52 GMT -5
I always quite liked the term Canuck anyway, even though I'm from the U.S. Around here, people call us hillbillies or mountaineers, and people sort of embraced one of the two, and the first doesn't upset me.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 24, 2008 18:39:05 GMT -5
not true. I don't use slurs of any kind. i very rarely even swear. and I manage to have great conversations. I've also been called one of the nicest most polite person most people have met in real life. Not to toot my horn or anything. But just by the way I talk to people I get smiles, people are willing to do things for me and I've never once had anybody say I was a jerk. I don't feel I'm better than anybody. But I've always lived under the rule of don't do anything to somebody that you wouldn't have done to yourself. and maybe just maybe if more people would live that way the world wouldn't be the crap hole it is now. See, that's the difference between you and me. I don't watch what I say around other people. I say what i'm thinking and what i'm feeling, and I do often get called an asshole for it. But those same people who call me an asshole also respect me for saying what I feel without sugarcoating it, and for being brutally honest. I tend to think that most people don't actually say what they feel or think, and are afraid of just being flat out honest with people, because of the labels people want to attach to you for speaking your mind. I always say what I mean. I can just do it without the need to curse or be vulgar. Because I do that and also respect other people's right to have their own opinion. it never leads to an arguement.
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Post by The Wraith on Apr 24, 2008 18:39:21 GMT -5
Group hug! And watch the hands skyhawk. Are you trying to imply something?
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