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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 27, 2008 10:46:06 GMT -5
The only way to quit smoking is Nicotrel. That is completely untrue. I went coldturkey 16 months ago and haven't had a smoke since.
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Post by MysteryPartner on May 27, 2008 10:47:11 GMT -5
The only way to quit smoking is Nicotrel. That is completely untrue. I went coldturkey 16 months ago and haven't had a smoke since. You WILL quit smoking.
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Post by Rockhound on May 27, 2008 10:48:09 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state.
As for the successful pot smokers thing, last time I looked Cobain stuck a shotgun under his chin so smoking pot really worked out for him didn't it?
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Post by MysteryPartner on May 27, 2008 10:49:28 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state. As for the successful pot smokers thing, last time I looked Cobain stuck a shotgun under his chin so smoking pot really worked out for him didn't it? So everyone who smokes pot commits suicide?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 27, 2008 10:50:10 GMT -5
Also as a note: if the discussion on pot smoking doesn't end right now, this thread is getting shut down.
It has nothing to do with this thread, and has no place on this board.
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Post by The Royal Our Herobaums on May 27, 2008 10:50:50 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state. As for the successful pot smokers thing, last time I looked Cobain stuck a shotgun under his chin so smoking pot really worked out for him didn't it? Well, he successfully killed himself, so one could argue he accomplished everything he set out to do.
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Post by MysteryPartner on May 27, 2008 10:51:06 GMT -5
The Nicotrel thing is a SNL skit with The Rock....
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Post by acressl on May 27, 2008 10:52:56 GMT -5
The Nicotrel thing is a SNL skit with The Rock.... Nick eats with you... Nick sleeps with you... and when you try to smoke...
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 27, 2008 10:56:53 GMT -5
I hate the Truth commercials.
I'm not a smoker at all, and sometimes I think that the ads will often bring up a good point. But I find their execution to be incredibly obnoxious and off-putting.
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Post by Ramses on May 27, 2008 11:10:30 GMT -5
I don't smoke, but damn if these's stupid ads want to make me start to.
On a side note: why do I think the whole idea of these ads in the first place was to annoy people into submission to stop smoking?
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Post by markdown474 on May 27, 2008 12:02:49 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state. I don't think it's fair to say these ads are only for the incredibly stupid. We need to remember that they are largely aimed at kids and young teens who haven't necessarily been educated on the issue. Considering there are kids who start smoking at 12 (and I'm guessing younger), I think an anti-smoking campaign is a good thing. Whether or not the truth ads are going about it the right way or not, I have no idea.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on May 27, 2008 12:07:43 GMT -5
As a non smoker, those ads are annoying. Well, okay ALL public service ads are annoying, because they rest on the premise that people are either deliberately ignorant or maliciously stupid. That one on raw last night took the cake. A executive in 1979 said that? Wow, could it be the science wasn't that solid back then? Heck, a high ranking executive at a Tobacco company 30 years ago? Assuming the guy was in his fourties or fifties, he's probably retired now, possibly dead.
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Post by laughytaffy on May 27, 2008 12:39:53 GMT -5
Meh, not nearly as bad as that one where the girl is holding onto a bar of iron in a rainstorm and blurts out "looks pretty stupid right?"
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Post by Shy Guy on May 27, 2008 12:54:17 GMT -5
i'm not a smoker, but these commercials are just dumb. they make me want to smoke.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on May 27, 2008 12:58:49 GMT -5
They try their hardest to shock you with their staggering facts. Problem is: how do you tell someone that's addicted to nicotine to stop using it? Show them cartoon images of serious subjects, dancing around when it's really a horrible problem?
Yeah, that'll do it.
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Post by Franchise on May 27, 2008 13:01:32 GMT -5
I used to smoke...I smoked "casually" (meaning "when I got drunk") from ages 16-19, then when I was 19 I had about half a pack a day for 8 or 9 months. Like Cornfed, I quit cold turkey, and I haven't had a cigarette since I believe December.
What really, REALLY bothers me is people coming up to me, or anyone for that matter, and saying "you know, those things cause cancer, and breathing problems, etc etc etc". I was not born in 1950. Throughout public school, high school, and the year of college I've taken, I heard it on a regular basis. People begin to smoke KNOWING that cigarettes COULD cause serious harm (and I say that because 99% of health problems are in the long term-20+ years of smoking). I am not stupid enough to believe otherwise.
I can understand if you don't want smoke in your face, or people to smoke in your home, etc etc, that's your right. But don't say stupid shit like "you can smoke if you want, it's your lungs that'll get cancer". Just don't be a f***ing idiot.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on May 27, 2008 13:01:57 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state. As for the successful pot smokers thing, last time I looked Cobain stuck a shotgun under his chin so smoking pot really worked out for him didn't it? In all fairness....you claim the ads are for "the incredibly stupid", yet, would you not consider smoking an "incredibly stupid" choice, given your own description of voluntarily sucking smoke into your lungs? With that said, the ads neither bother me nor do I find them nessecary. People know smoking is bad for them, they just don't care, which sounds pretty stupid to me. But like someone else said, if you aren't smoking around a non-smoker, do whatever the hell ya want, I don't care.
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Post by The Royal Our Herobaums on May 27, 2008 13:07:41 GMT -5
OK, to the self righteous non-smokers who feel that these ads are necessary. These ads are only for the incredibly stupid. Like I said, no tobacco executive ever made anyone smoke at gunpoint. Smoking is a choice. Yeah, really, it is. But in case you don't think so, let me put it this way: If'n it's your first time smoking, at what time did you think that lighting something on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs would be beneficial considering that most fire deaths are by smoke inhalation? This is an action that is done voluntarily. This is just another attempt to further the cause of the nanny state. As for the successful pot smokers thing, last time I looked Cobain stuck a shotgun under his chin so smoking pot really worked out for him didn't it? In all fairness....you claim the ads are for "the incredibly stupid", yet, would you not consider smoking an "incredibly stupid" choice, given your own description of voluntarily sucking smoke into your lungs? With that said, the ads neither bother me nor do I find them nessecary. People know smoking is bad for them, they just don't care, which sounds pretty stupid to me. But like someone else said, if you aren't smoking around a non-smoker, do whatever the hell ya want, I don't care. Smoking is far from the only stupid thing people do willingly. Consuming more than a moderate quantity of alcohol is bad for the human body. People go base jumping, which seems like a real shit idea to me, personally. People will do things that they know are bad for them if a) they like it or b) they're addicted. Me, I smoke cigarettes two, maybe three times a month, because I enjoy smoking.
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Post by Franchise on May 27, 2008 13:10:12 GMT -5
In all fairness....you claim the ads are for "the incredibly stupid", yet, would you not consider smoking an "incredibly stupid" choice, given your own description of voluntarily sucking smoke into your lungs? With that said, the ads neither bother me nor do I find them nessecary. People know smoking is bad for them, they just don't care, which sounds pretty stupid to me. But like someone else said, if you aren't smoking around a non-smoker, do whatever the hell ya want, I don't care. Smoking is far from the only stupid thing people do willingly. Consuming more than a moderate quantity of alcohol is bad for the human body. People go base jumping, which seems like a real crap idea to me, personally. People will do things that they know are bad for them if a) they like it or b) they're addicted. Me, I smoke cigarettes two, maybe three times a month, because I enjoy smoking. We're all fans of a sport where people volutarily hit each other with metal chairs to the head. Hell, I want to get into the buisness myself. I other words, I agree with you.
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Post by The Royal Our Herobaums on May 27, 2008 13:12:35 GMT -5
Smoking is far from the only stupid thing people do willingly. Consuming more than a moderate quantity of alcohol is bad for the human body. People go base jumping, which seems like a real crap idea to me, personally. People will do things that they know are bad for them if a) they like it or b) they're addicted. Me, I smoke cigarettes two, maybe three times a month, because I enjoy smoking. We're all fans of a sport where people volutarily hit each other with metal chairs to the head. Hell, I want to get into the buisness myself. I other words, I agree with you. Yeah, good call. For some reason, it never occurred to me to mention wrestling.
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