Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 11, 2008 15:21:11 GMT -5
HGH can be prescribed from the doctor, you don't need much to see gain.
But then watching HHH back in 1998 compared to now, he's always had a build that could be good for a big muscular frame.
His workout book is really good for mass building more than getting cut though.
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Jtre
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Post by Jtre on Jan 11, 2008 15:25:42 GMT -5
After all this time, it is still hard to understand why so many people (most of whom are far from exercise/nutrition experts) find it so hard to believe that a person can achieve a physique like John Cena or Triple H without juicing.
Haven't they been into weights and bodybuilding for over a decade or, in H's case, two decades. Throw in the fact that part of their job description is to hit the gym every day, and is it really that hard to believe that they are not on the juice?
The other aspect of this that becomes so annoying is when people back up their arguments with, "Look at him, he might not be juicing now, but I know he has before!"
So the idea that Triple H or John Cena or whoever may have experimented with steroids 15 years ago or whatever should somehow taint the credit they deserve for keeping themselves in phenomenal shape? Again, it is stupid.
The fact is, it is very well within the realm of believability that John Cena is not on steroids.
Get off the couch, cut out the junk food, work out every day and find a six-figure a year job that regulates your conditioning, then holler at me in 10 years and tell me you're not in damn good shape.
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 11, 2008 15:28:28 GMT -5
After all this time, it is still hard to understand why so many people (most of whom are far from exercise/nutrition experts) find it so hard to believe that a person can achieve a physique like John Cena or Triple H without juicing. Haven't they been into weights and bodybuilding for over a decade or, in H's case, two decades. Throw in the fact that part of their job description is to hit the gym every day, and is it really that hard to believe that they are not on the juice? The other aspect of this that becomes so annoying is when people back up their arguments with, "Look at him, he might not be juicing now, but I know he has before!" So the idea that Triple H or John Cena or whoever may have experimented with steroids 15 years ago or whatever should somehow taint the credit they deserve for keeping themselves in phenomenal shape? Again, it is stupid. The fact is, it is very well within the realm of believability that John Cena is not on steroids. Get off the couch, cut out the junk food, work out every day and find a six-figure a year job that regulates your conditioning, then holler at me in 10 years and tell me you're not in damn good shape. I'm pretty sure he admitted to being on the juice in OVW though. Not saying he is now, just saying it was likely he was at some point in his career.
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Jtre
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Post by Jtre on Jan 11, 2008 15:31:31 GMT -5
After all this time, it is still hard to understand why so many people (most of whom are far from exercise/nutrition experts) find it so hard to believe that a person can achieve a physique like John Cena or Triple H without juicing. Haven't they been into weights and bodybuilding for over a decade or, in H's case, two decades. Throw in the fact that part of their job description is to hit the gym every day, and is it really that hard to believe that they are not on the juice? The other aspect of this that becomes so annoying is when people back up their arguments with, "Look at him, he might not be juicing now, but I know he has before!" So the idea that Triple H or John Cena or whoever may have experimented with steroids 15 years ago or whatever should somehow taint the credit they deserve for keeping themselves in phenomenal shape? Again, it is stupid. The fact is, it is very well within the realm of believability that John Cena is not on steroids. Get off the couch, cut out the junk food, work out every day and find a six-figure a year job that regulates your conditioning, then holler at me in 10 years and tell me you're not in damn good shape. I'm pretty sure he admitted to being on the juice in OVW though. Not saying he is now, just saying it was likely he was at some point in his career. Honestly, I don't know whether he said he was in OVW or not. It's just, at this point, nothing about John Cena makes me say, "STEROIDS!"
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 11, 2008 15:33:07 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he admitted to being on the juice in OVW though. Not saying he is now, just saying it was likely he was at some point in his career. Honestly, I don't know whether he said he was in OVW or not. It's just, at this point, nothing about John Cena makes me say, "STEROIDS!" The pictures of him as Prototype look much more "inflated" than his present form.
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Post by bigswole on Jan 11, 2008 19:05:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he admitted to being on the juice in OVW though. Not saying he is now, just saying it was likely he was at some point in his career. Honestly, I don't know whether he said he was in OVW or not. It's just, at this point, nothing about John Cena makes me say, "STEROIDS!" Cena roads look at his pre wwe days and one thing that gives cena away sooo bad his chin and head research it when you juice your head changes so get off his ....
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Jtre
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Post by Jtre on Jan 11, 2008 19:37:31 GMT -5
Nobody is on his anything.
I'm stating my opinion. I have the same amount of proof that he does not juice as you do that he does, which is none.
His head looks no bigger than it has at any point since he has been in pro wrestling. I've known plenty of people that have used steroids, and most of them had far more drastic changes in their appearances than Cena. Honestly, his physique has changed very little since he has been in the WWE.
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randomranter
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Post by randomranter on Jan 12, 2008 0:35:26 GMT -5
Here's the way I look at it.
Do I believe that there are some wrestlers on the juice? Absolutely.
Do I care? Not one bit.
Do I believe that the main eventers are "immune" from the wellness policy? Absolutely. There is a 0% chance that anyone on the level of HHH, HBK, Orton, Cena, etc. will be wished well in their future endeavors unless someone produces a videotape of them injecting the stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even have to take a piss test whether or not their name is "randomly" drawn.
I do expect, though, to see at least one expendable lower-midcarder wished well just so the WWE can say that they're "still serious" about steroids in the WWE. Or we'll see another incident of someone from OVW or wherever called up to the midcard with the sole purpose of being suspended and made a public example of like DH Smith was.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Jan 12, 2008 1:14:52 GMT -5
After all this time, it is still hard to understand why so many people (most of whom are far from exercise/nutrition experts) find it so hard to believe that a person can achieve a physique like John Cena or Triple H without juicing. Haven't they been into weights and bodybuilding for over a decade or, in H's case, two decades. Throw in the fact that part of their job description is to hit the gym every day, and is it really that hard to believe that they are not on the juice? The other aspect of this that becomes so annoying is when people back up their arguments with, "Look at him, he might not be juicing now, but I know he has before!" So the idea that Triple H or John Cena or whoever may have experimented with steroids 15 years ago or whatever should somehow taint the credit they deserve for keeping themselves in phenomenal shape? Again, it is stupid. The fact is, it is very well within the realm of believability that John Cena is not on steroids. Get off the couch, cut out the junk food, work out every day and find a six-figure a year job that regulates your conditioning, then holler at me in 10 years and tell me you're not in damn good shape. So. Damn. True. These guys are paid very well to spend ALL their time possible working out and staying in shape. Obviously they're all those lucky people who have the genetic make-up which allows them to build muscle very easily (not everyone builds muscle to the same degree, genetics plays a big part in it) and of course they're all very good at knowing the ins and outs of nutrition and exercise to maximize their effect at all times. Why is it impossible to believe then that NOBODY could look that good given all those conditions? It's sad that the media has brainwashed people so much about the steroid boogeyman that they now suspect that ANYONE who looks good or is extremely fit must be on roids. It's one of the reasons I really don't care about someone being on roids. The aim of sports is to be the very best you can. Doing that means using every advantage you can, which today includes scientifically developed supplements and such. But *some* things are "cheating"... others are fine. Pft. Whatever. Because as soon as you reach a certain level all the jaded smarks of the world just accuse you of cheating with "steroids" anyway.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 12, 2008 2:44:53 GMT -5
i really don't care, nor do i see why it matters, if wrestlers are on the juice. so they're big. who cares? all i care about is whether they are good at their job and keep me entertained. the size doen't matter. hell, sandman was entertaining as hell, and he looked like a dude off the street. hogan was entertaining, and we know he was on the gas. it makes no difference in the world of wrestling, a predetermined show where there is no actual winners or losers, only those who are good, and those who are bad.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Jan 12, 2008 2:46:35 GMT -5
jesus chrsit. it's threads like this that make me dislike this board.
STOP STATING YOUR OPINION AS FACTS! IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN ASS! NONE OF US KNOW WHO'S ON STEROIDS. NONE OF US KNOW WHO ISN'T! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DO! IT DUMBS DOWN THE BOARD AND MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A 13 YEAR OLD MARK!
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Jan 12, 2008 5:50:38 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the day that Hornswoggle becomes as wide as he is tall. Steroids? Nay!
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Erik Majorwitz
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Jan 12, 2008 6:03:11 GMT -5
Steroids in wrestling? No way...
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