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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Feb 1, 2008 1:18:46 GMT -5
Maybe WWE will shock us by finally remembering that Mickie did something to Beth pre-WWE, and when Mickie goes mental, it triggers Beth off, and she'll spill. Never happen. That would involve acknowledging Mickie was a heel, and it might be difficult to skirt around the disappearance of Trish Stratus, who was almost the focus of that angle previously.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Feb 1, 2008 11:38:39 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero found it really difficult to turn heel for a while, until they had him turn on Rey - and it worked, because he was against a guy you could cheer for against him. There's no Diva like Rey who could make people boo a "Mickie Guerrero". Exactly. Right now, Mickie is the #1 quintessential female face in WWE. And don't say Candice, because we all know that's wrong; for the longest time no one gave a damn about Candice, and a lot of people still don't. Meanwhile, as soon as Mickie showed up on WWE television, you couldn't NOT have an opinion of her, positive or negative. If you want any evidence of the fans' respect for her, look at WrestleMania 22, where she was cheered throughout the match even though she was playing heel, and even though she was pushed as a heel for several months afterward against Trish (she was still being cheered, by the way). Honestly, I think the cheering had less to do with respect and more to do with the fact that she was trying to lez out with Trish. The fact that every dude in the arena wanted to see them start making out right there, and Trish was consistantly the one resisting the advances of Mickie, made her the heel, at least in the minds of the dudes in the audience who wanted to see a couple girls feel each other up.
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Post by Steveweiser on Feb 1, 2008 12:04:36 GMT -5
They wouldn't be cheering Mickie now if that was the sole case.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Feb 1, 2008 12:18:58 GMT -5
They wouldn't be cheering Mickie now if that was the sole case. I don't believe that to be the sole case at all. Obviously the whole "lesbian Mickie" thing has been phased out since then, but I do firmly believe that the reaction she received at Wrestlemania was largely, if not entirely, due to the fact that her character was trying to get with Trish. Nowadays, she gets a decent response, but it's nothing Earth shattering. Honestly, there's very few people you could point to that absolutely COULD NOT turn heel given the right booking. My opinion here, but I feel like both Trish Stratus and Lita were both far more over in their respective primes, and both of them managed to turn heel very successfully.
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Post by Steveweiser on Feb 1, 2008 12:24:54 GMT -5
But who is there for Mickie to turn heel against, and make it believeable? As far as I can see, there isn't any option other than bringing Trish or Lita back. Unless Nattie Neidhart got brought up, and Mickie disrespected the Harts.
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Post by greeby on Feb 1, 2008 13:26:46 GMT -5
But who is there for Mickie to turn heel against, and make it believeable? As far as I can see, there isn't any option other than bringing Trish or Lita back. Unless Nattie Neidhart got brought up, and Mickie disrespected the Harts. I'm guessing the idea is to have her snap and beat the hell out of Ashley (Although that wouldn't make her a heel in my book ) Seriously though, how many of the other current divas actually get any reaction at all? Could probably count them on one hand and still have room left over
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 1, 2008 13:33:06 GMT -5
Exactly. Right now, Mickie is the #1 quintessential female face in WWE. And don't say Candice, because we all know that's wrong; for the longest time no one gave a damn about Candice, and a lot of people still don't. Meanwhile, as soon as Mickie showed up on WWE television, you couldn't NOT have an opinion of her, positive or negative. If you want any evidence of the fans' respect for her, look at WrestleMania 22, where she was cheered throughout the match even though she was playing heel, and even though she was pushed as a heel for several months afterward against Trish (she was still being cheered, by the way). Honestly, I think the cheering had less to do with respect and more to do with the fact that she was trying to lez out with Trish. The fact that every dude in the arena wanted to see them start making out right there, and Trish was consistantly the one resisting the advances of Mickie, made her the heel, at least in the minds of the dudes in the audience who wanted to see a couple girls feel each other up. I am of that belief as well, especially the part in the match that is taken off the WM22 DVD. That got a nice reaction out of the crowd.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Feb 1, 2008 15:40:48 GMT -5
But who is there for Mickie to turn heel against, and make it believeable? As far as I can see, there isn't any option other than bringing Trish or Lita back. Unless Nattie Neidhart got brought up, and Mickie disrespected the Harts. Here's the route I see it going: Candice comes back from her injury, starts feuding with Beth again. Mickie James gets pissed she was essentially leapfrogged by someone who's been gone for several months, and snaps. Psycho Mickie is back, but this time she's pissed psycho heel Mickie who wears pants, as opposed to crazy psycho lesbian Mickie who wears skirts. I don't know if that will actually make her an effective heel or not, but that's how I see this playing out.
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Post by tc03ska on Feb 1, 2008 15:51:03 GMT -5
But who is there for Mickie to turn heel against, and make it believeable? As far as I can see, there isn't any option other than bringing Trish or Lita back. Unless Nattie Neidhart got brought up, and Mickie disrespected the Harts. Here's the route I see it going: Candice comes back from her injury, starts feuding with Beth again. Mickie James gets pissed she was essentially leapfrogged by someone who's been gone for several months, and snaps. Psycho Mickie is back, but this time she's pissed psycho heel Mickie who wears pants, as opposed to crazy psycho lesbian Mickie who wears skirts. I don't know if that will actually make her an effective heel or not, but that's how I see this playing out. That makes alot of sense giving us Beth vs. Mickie vs. Candice at Mania. (Wow, Mania loves triple threat women's matches [WM18 & 19])
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Post by squaredcircle on Feb 1, 2008 16:11:03 GMT -5
And if somehow we get Melina vs Mickie at Backlash 08, I'll mark like crazy. i'd splooge like crazy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2008 16:21:24 GMT -5
Psycho Mickie AS A FACE would work people. It's like madman Undertaker...who's been both face and heel. Besides, Candice is still MIA due to injury, and well.........imagine Mickie losing her crap after all this losing, and the Glamazon forced with her first serious challenge.... A pure psychopath of a bitch. Yeah, crazy faces works, too. Mankind, Delirious, and Kane have all been face AND unstable.
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Post by Tim on Feb 1, 2008 16:38:00 GMT -5
Here's the route I see it going: Candice comes back from her injury, starts feuding with Beth again. Mickie James gets pissed she was essentially leapfrogged by someone who's been gone for several months, and snaps. Psycho Mickie is back, but this time she's pissed psycho heel Mickie who wears pants, as opposed to crazy psycho lesbian Mickie who wears skirts. I don't know if that will actually make her an effective heel or not, but that's how I see this playing out. She should go back to wearing skirts.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2008 16:43:36 GMT -5
Here's the route I see it going: Candice comes back from her injury, starts feuding with Beth again. Mickie James gets pissed she was essentially leapfrogged by someone who's been gone for several months, and snaps. Psycho Mickie is back, but this time she's pissed psycho heel Mickie who wears pants, as opposed to crazy psycho lesbian Mickie who wears skirts. I don't know if that will actually make her an effective heel or not, but that's how I see this playing out. She should go back to wearing skirts. Maybe, but I dig the pants. It's funny: my 4 year old brother said she had Princess pants, since he thought she looked like Princess Jasmine.
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Post by Steveweiser on Feb 1, 2008 16:45:17 GMT -5
I like the trousers now - since they have a bit of a habit of falling down during her matches.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2008 16:46:57 GMT -5
I like the trousers now - since they have a bit of a habit of falling down during her matches. ....useless without pics.
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Feb 1, 2008 17:07:07 GMT -5
Here's the route I see it going: Candice comes back from her injury, starts feuding with Beth again. Mickie James gets pissed she was essentially leapfrogged by someone who's been gone for several months, and snaps. Psycho Mickie is back, but this time she's pissed psycho heel Mickie who wears pants, as opposed to crazy psycho lesbian Mickie who wears skirts. I don't know if that will actually make her an effective heel or not, but that's how I see this playing out. She should go back to wearing skirts. Agreed what is it with WWE and not letting the divas show off their legs?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2008 17:12:03 GMT -5
She should go back to wearing skirts. Agreed what is it with WWE and not letting the divas show off their legs? This is why I advocate Melina working as an occasional manager. Man, I missed those days where every week she'd whip out some crazy new outfit and hair/makeup style. *begins musing endlessly*
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Feb 1, 2008 19:33:24 GMT -5
She should go back to wearing skirts. Agreed what is it with WWE and not letting the divas show off their legs? Because WWE doesn't pay for leg implants.
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Post by Bones58 on Feb 1, 2008 19:36:20 GMT -5
I'm probably gonna get pelters for this, but I stopped caring about Mickie when she replaced her short-skirt attire with the trousers.
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Post by GregP19 on Feb 1, 2008 20:33:24 GMT -5
mickie turning heel would be the worse possible option, since she will still get pops. the writers just need to make her the #1 diva face instead of waiting on Candice(and I am a HUGE Candice mark)
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