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Post by heebeegbs on Feb 2, 2008 8:47:29 GMT -5
If John Cena did turn heel, would it be cheered, therefor defeating the point of him turning heel?
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Post by Steveweiser on Feb 2, 2008 8:48:34 GMT -5
If it was done like Hollywood Rock, then yes he would be cheered, but at this stage, he might as well stay face, because he'd get exactly the same reactions as a heel.
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Post by acressl on Feb 2, 2008 8:51:11 GMT -5
He'd probably have to kick already sick puppies and start mocking people's dead grandparents to even have a chance. Something.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Feb 2, 2008 8:53:53 GMT -5
He's the most over guy in the company why would they turn him?
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Post by Caglar13 on Feb 2, 2008 9:27:40 GMT -5
They should just keep him face. Maybe after so long they can turn him heel like they did with Hogan and it will be a huge deal.
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Post by Loki on Feb 2, 2008 10:17:21 GMT -5
Who would cheer a heel Cena?
Heel Cena would get cheers from a minority who love to go against the flow, and by an even smaller minority who'd probably like the tweaked gimmick.
But those who don't like Cena, the character/the worker, won't cheer for him just because "now he's a heel, so he's better"
And sure as heel all the Chain Gang Soldiers won't cheer...
Why going from a 50/50 (worst case) reaction to an almost guaranteed 20/80?
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Post by metylerca on Feb 2, 2008 13:03:58 GMT -5
because it's the cool thing to do; cheer the heels.
But in all seriousness, if they were to turn him heel, it would be in another 2 years at least. It'd be a big deal if they waited on it.
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Post by thesunbeast on Feb 2, 2008 13:06:57 GMT -5
Yes, It would be bad. He's the flagship of the company.
How many people complain about his "superman" push?
And how many of those fans are actually fans of the superman movies?.......
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Post by mrprofessionalx on Feb 2, 2008 13:30:20 GMT -5
I doubt he would get cheered. A good portion of the fans don't hate Cena because of his lame character...they hate him because he sucks.
Basically...they would continue to boo him no matter what he is.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 2, 2008 13:33:54 GMT -5
I doubt he would get cheered. A good portion of the fans don't hate Cena because of his lame character...they hate him because he sucks. Basically...they would continue to boo him no matter what he is. I disagree, as I'm sure a good portion of smarks would cheer him on just to go against the grain. Then if he's turned face again, they boo him again. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2008 13:34:32 GMT -5
I doubt he would get cheered. A good portion of the fans don't hate Cena because of his lame character...they hate him because he sucks. Basically...they would continue to boo him no matter what he is. how does he suck exactly? from what i've heard its all about his character and push he puts on the best matches of the year he can work a crowd he can cut a promo what more do you want? |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Feb 2, 2008 13:37:29 GMT -5
How many in the IWC would be complaining about his heel character?
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Post by metylerca on Feb 2, 2008 13:38:35 GMT -5
How many in the IWC would be complaining about his heel character? Does it matter? To ballpark it; probably 2/3 of the people who complain now. |
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Post by mrprofessionalx on Feb 2, 2008 13:49:18 GMT -5
How does Cena suck? 1. His matches are very, very FAKE looking. His offensive moves are so weak looking that asking us to buy into them is just downright insulting. 2. His promos are the same thing: "DA CHAMP IS HERE...YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME...{INSERT HEEL'S NAME} IS GAY. POOP, GAY, FART, CHAIN GANG." Those are the two main ones right there. Now...if you honestly believe he puts on "matches of the year" then that's your opinion are your welcome to it. I'm not gonna change your mind about Cena...just like you aren't gonna change mine. As for what more do I want?...How about someone who's actually talented? Instead of Vince McMahon's hand picked guy to shove down the fans throats. I doubt he would get cheered. A good portion of the fans don't hate Cena because of his lame character...they hate him because he sucks. Basically...they would continue to boo him no matter what he is. how does he suck exactly? from what i've heard its all about his character and push he puts on the best matches of the year he can work a crowd he can cut a promo what more do you want? |
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 2, 2008 13:50:39 GMT -5
i really think there would be no purpose to this
he'd get the same reaction anyways, but I just think changing the formula in this instance won't work because he's extremely over, and there is nothing that really needs to be changed.
I don't think his offense looks as fake as those indy guys everybody creams themselves for and for the X-division, or those high flying luchadores.
Does it look more scripted than Kenta Kobashi's offense yeah..
Does it look as legit as Kenta Flying around the ring? you betcha.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2008 13:58:51 GMT -5
How does Cena suck? 1. His matches are very, very FAKE looking. His offensive moves are so weak looking that asking us to buy into them is just downright insulting. 2. His promos are the same thing: "DA CHAMP IS HERE...YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME...{INSERT HEEL'S NAME} IS GAY. POOP, GAY, FART, CHAIN GANG." Those are the two main ones right there. Now...if you honestly believe he puts on "matches of the year" then that's your opinion are your welcome to it. I'm not gonna change your mind about Cena...just like you aren't gonna change mine. As for what more do I want?...How about someone who's actually talented? Instead of Vince McMahon's hand picked guy to shove down the fans throats. how does he suck exactly? from what i've heard its all about his character and push he puts on the best matches of the year he can work a crowd he can cut a promo what more do you want? its not just my opinion but most matches last year that were listed as MOTY candidates were John Cena matches. Also your second point is just downright stupid... poop gay fart chain gang? when was the last time he said any of those words? honestly defending that made you sounds like a 10 year old |
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Post by metylerca on Feb 2, 2008 13:58:54 GMT -5
How does Cena suck? 1. His matches are very, very FAKE looking. His offensive moves are so weak looking that asking us to buy into them is just downright insulting. 2. His promos are the same thing: "DA CHAMP IS HERE...YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME...{INSERT HEEL'S NAME} IS GAY. POOP, GAY, FART, CHAIN GANG." Those are the two main ones right there. Now...if you honestly believe he puts on "matches of the year" then that's your opinion are your welcome to it. I'm not gonna change your mind about Cena...just like you aren't gonna change mine. As for what more do I want?...How about someone who's actually talented? Instead of Vince McMahon's hand picked guy to shove down the fans throats. how does he suck exactly? from what i've heard its all about his character and push he puts on the best matches of the year he can work a crowd he can cut a promo what more do you want? If John Cena was 'pushed down our throats', then don't you think that people would voice their displeasure in ways other than paying cash to see him wrestle at live events? How about all those people who marked madly when he came back? If I had forks stuck down my throat, and didn't see them for 3 months, and they were back by surprise, I wouldn't have been happy. The 'Cena Sucks' arguement, in my opinion, is the smarky stubborn reaction to someone who they don't like being the face of WWE. |
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Post by WhiteFu on Feb 2, 2008 14:03:27 GMT -5
Of course it would be a good thing, don't you remember Cena's first heel run? He was actually entertaining.
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Post by mrprofessionalx on Feb 2, 2008 14:05:06 GMT -5
Whatever. I really didn't come on here to get in a pissing contest with you. I gave my opinion...that's all. It's a pitty there's jerkoffs like you who would rather insult someone than accept their opinion. f*** you and f*** this board. How does Cena suck? 1. His matches are very, very FAKE looking. His offensive moves are so weak looking that asking us to buy into them is just downright insulting. 2. His promos are the same thing: "DA CHAMP IS HERE...YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME...{INSERT HEEL'S NAME} IS GAY. POOP, GAY, FART, CHAIN GANG." Those are the two main ones right there. Now...if you honestly believe he puts on "matches of the year" then that's your opinion are your welcome to it. I'm not gonna change your mind about Cena...just like you aren't gonna change mine. As for what more do I want?...How about someone who's actually talented? Instead of Vince McMahon's hand picked guy to shove down the fans throats. its not just my opinion but most matches last year that were listed as MOTY candidates were John Cena matches. Also your second point is just downright stupid... poop gay fart chain gang? when was the last time he said any of those words? honestly defending that made you sounds like a 10 year old |
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Feb 2, 2008 14:08:41 GMT -5
I doubt he would get cheered. A good portion of the fans don't hate Cena because of his lame character...they hate him because he sucks. Basically...they would continue to boo him no matter what he is. You could give him the Charlie Haas treatment and he would still be booed. Cena draws. That's not a bad thing. I just find him boring. |
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