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Post by rra on Feb 27, 2008 16:54:11 GMT -5
With his serious push, and booked strong in his defeat at NO WAY OUT, WWE is teasing fans with a Jeff Hardy WWE title reign....and considering we all are calling him to win MITB at WrestleMania....
Who knows..............maybe SummerSlam?
Anyway, (if) when that moment comes, who will he win it from?
JOHN CENA - Beating Superman clean in a PPV title match.
TRIPLE H - Been there, done that, but if he wins at WM 24 (as most fans seem to think), then it'll be a Tied feud going into a culmilative finale.
RANDY ORTON - What if he wins at WM24? What if he pulls an upset and pins Cena or Trips clean as a sheet, and fans are deflated in the same evening that Taker buries Edge? Besides, add fuel of Orton already beating him, and Hardy having to overcome that hurdle.
NONE OF THE ABOVE - You joking, right?
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Feb 27, 2008 16:55:24 GMT -5
He's hit his career peak. He's not getting that belt. It doesn't mean I don't want him to get it, I just don't think he ever will.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 27, 2008 16:56:15 GMT -5
Who's to say he'll even get the belt?
They could string him along and just not have him win it, but I could see him beating Trips for it.
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Post by MGH on Feb 27, 2008 16:57:56 GMT -5
Him never getting a World Title after this build would be absurd and WWE would be throwing away money. Simple as that.
That being said, I'm starting to think it may be the World Heavyweight Championship he ends up winning, not the WWE.
The draft is (presumably) coming in April, Raw is as top heavy as ever, and if things follow the usual pattern Raw will get even more top heavy at the expense of Smackdown and ECW.
I don't think Edge/Hardy(Jeff) at Summerslam is out of the question.
In a perfect world Jeff wins MITB and cashes it in to beat Cena at Summerslam. Even him winning MITB and cashing in an earned shot to beat Orton to end Mania after he upsets Cena and HHH.
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Post by rra on Feb 27, 2008 16:58:04 GMT -5
He's hit his career peak. He's not getting that belt. It doesn't mean I don't want him to get it, I just don't think he ever will. Why?
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Feb 27, 2008 17:01:43 GMT -5
Cena at Summerslam.
Cena can feud with either Triple H or Orton after that, as I presume they will feud after Mania and get the blowoff at around Summerslam.
It will be strange seeing Triple H as the underdog in a feud with Cena, but I think they could play it that way.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 27, 2008 17:04:00 GMT -5
Nobody, he's at the point where he doesn't need the WWE title.
HE just doesn't. Seriously he could go his career without winning the WWE title. He could spend his career making the IC title worth something again.
all in all he doesn't need the belt or need to be the focal point of the show to be over and stay over.
Oversaturation of an over wrestler leads to backlash. Cena, Mysterio, HBK, bret....
I think his spot is definitely a good one and he's one of those guys who never needs to win the world title to matter
WWE would not lose money if he doesn't win the WWE title. He's still a main eventer, sells tons of merchandise, and is relevant on TV.
they are making a lot of money.
he doesn't need to be champ.
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Post by rra on Feb 27, 2008 17:05:39 GMT -5
Him never getting a World Title after this build would be absurd and WWE would be throwing away money. Simple as that. That being said, I'm starting to think it may be the World Heavyweight Championship he ends up winning, not the WWE. The draft is (presumably) coming in April, Raw is as top heavy as ever, and if things follow the usual pattern Raw will get even more top heavy at the expense of Smackdown and ECW. I don't think Edge/Hardy(Jeff) at Summerslam is out of the question. In a perfect world Jeff wins MITB and cashes it in to beat Cena at Summerslam. Even him winning MITB and cashing in an earned shot to beat Orton to end Mania after he upsets Cena and HHH. What if Orton upsets Cena/Trips at WM, and as Orton is mocking his fallen competition on the way back, Hardy WHACKS him with his MITB briefcase. Nothing else happens that night, but the message is clear to fans: The MITB champ is teasing a cashing-in Two ways you go with this angle. One, with Cena/Trips off to a PPV confrontation over their beef from WM, Hardy cashes in the briefcase........yet Orton, who's asserted himself as the undisputed champion, will be a bigger roadblock than ever, and the one guy that came close to pinning him, gets another shot. Two, when Hardy teases an official "cashing in," Orton sidewipes Hardy and beats him into a bloody pulp....giving Hardy off time to rest his wrecked back in an "injury" angle, and when Jeff returns months later....he fights for the strap.
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Post by joeman on Feb 27, 2008 17:06:02 GMT -5
LOL @ JEFF HARDY WINNING THE BELT!@!
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Post by MGH on Feb 27, 2008 17:06:33 GMT -5
Nobody, he's at the point where he doesn't need the WWE title. HE just doesn't. Seriously he could go his career without winning the WWE title. He could spend his career making the IC title worth something again. all in all he doesn't need the belt or need to be the focal point of the show to be over and stay over. Oversaturation of an over wrestler leads to backlash. Cena, Mysterio, HBK, bret.... I think his spot is definitely a good one and he's one of those guys who never needs to win the world title to matter But by the logic of "he doesn't need it to be over and stay over", HHH; HBK; Undertaker; Cena; Mysterio; Batista; Edge; Kane; any big name doesn't NEED it. Who in the world do you put it on?
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Post by rra on Feb 27, 2008 17:08:34 GMT -5
Nobody, he's at the point where he doesn't need the WWE title. HE just doesn't. Seriously he could go his career without winning the WWE title. He could spend his career making the IC title worth something again. all in all he doesn't need the belt or need to be the focal point of the show to be over and stay over. Oversaturation of an over wrestler leads to backlash. Cena, Mysterio, HBK, bret.... I think his spot is definitely a good one and he's one of those guys who never needs to win the world title to matter WWE would not lose money if he doesn't win the WWE title. He's still a main eventer, sells tons of merchandise, and is relevant on TV. they are making a lot of money. he doesn't need to be champ. Yes, defend a belt against jobbers like Lance Cade...what a way to build up a strap. Second, WWE has hardteased fans for some time of a Hardy WWE title run....and like HBK in 1995/96....WWE is taking their time with Hardy. He won't get the belt shot immediately after WM. Hell, he'll probably do some feuds to pass off the time....HBK, Jericho, Kennedy, whatever....then SummerSlam. WWE has one shot to make this moneyshot sweet. They won't trigger before summer.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 27, 2008 17:08:42 GMT -5
The guy with the best look and best mic skills to promote your product.
Hence a guy like John Cena, a guy like Rey who can go on telemundo.
Undertaker is an icon..blah blah blah
I just don't think he's generally needed to win the WWE title.
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Post by rra on Feb 27, 2008 17:09:40 GMT -5
The guy with the best look and best mic skills to promote your product. Hence a guy like John Cena, a guy like Rey who can go on telemundo. Undertaker is an icon..blah blah blah I just don't think he's generally needed to win the WWE title. Oh yes, Rey and his "great" WHC title run. That's a good argument right there.
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Post by Panda Powers on Feb 27, 2008 17:19:15 GMT -5
I'm really in two minds over this: he wins MITB and defeats Cena after he win's the WWE Title. This leads to Hardy as the champion, Cena claiming a rematch clause (for losing to Hardy), Orton claiming his rematch clause (for losing the Triple Threat) and HHH claiming that he was never pinned, and never got his one-on-one match for the title he earned at No Way Out, leading to a very interesting four-way feud for the WWE Title
OR... Hardy wins MITB, and chooses to cash it in at SummerSlam against Edge in a TLC match, which he wins. This assumes that Edge defeats Taker at Mania, or Taker wins, then Edge regains the belt through nefarious means during the rumoured draft period, and before Undertaker can claim HIS rematch, he's off to RAW (in exchange for Hardy)
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Post by Robbymac on Feb 27, 2008 17:22:07 GMT -5
Hopefully no one.
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Post by Camp Yorick on Feb 27, 2008 17:22:13 GMT -5
It's gonna be Hunter. Hunter will do it to prove a point, in his mind. Everyone will realize it was just bullshit like that time Hunter put Hardy over for the IC Title about 7 years ago.
Or maybe they've learned their lesson and this time they'll really go for it with him.
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Post by mo on Feb 27, 2008 17:24:41 GMT -5
I'd really like to think that Orton will win then Jeff will cash in MITB and get it that night, I know this is a popular concept every year but this is honestly the only year I've thought it's a possibility myself. But at the same time we have Cena and HHH in the match and there's a good chance WWE will just go the predictable route and give one of them another run.
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Post by Robbymac on Feb 27, 2008 17:28:29 GMT -5
I'd really like to think that Orton will win then Jeff will cash in MITB and get it that night, I know this is a popular concept every year but this is honestly the only year I've thought it's a possibility myself. But at the same time we have Cena and HHH in the match and there's a good chance WWE will just go the predictable route and give one of them another run. If that happens I'm demanding a refund.
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Post by Camp Yorick on Feb 27, 2008 17:31:02 GMT -5
Jeff going over in the main event, while I love the idea, isn't going to happpen in all likelihood.
If they did do it, though, it would shake things up big time. Whether you're a Hardy hater or lover- that would be so fresh and new that you would have to be interested in the new direction.
BUT, I'm sorta thinking it's Hunter again. It's been so long and you know it's killing him.
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Post by Bobafett on Feb 27, 2008 17:57:35 GMT -5
The guy with the best look and best mic skills to promote your product. Hence a guy like John Cena, a guy like Rey who can go on telemundo. Undertaker is an icon..blah blah blah I just don't think he's generally needed to win the WWE title. Y'know i'm fed up of this argument, what about Bret Hart..a guy who didn't have apparent mic skills, and how in the blue blazes do you explain letting Khali hold the belt for a good few month? and don't use the "but he looks intimidating " crap, Khali may look tough but most of his moves ..well look like they'd hurt as much as a soft cushion and ok..Hardy has had very steady face pops for years now, to the point hes so very crazy over, the fans don't care about his lack of mic skills ( the man himself admits he can't do a wwe style promo ) so you are saying WWE should ignore the work ethic, the crowd reactions, all that..simpky because og his mic skills and because YOU don;t think hes needed to be a champ and the "don't need a title to be over" thing is a very stupid arguement just because they don't NEED it to be over desn't mean they don't desire to be champ or that the WWE should NEVER put the belt on them
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