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Post by mrrotten on Mar 1, 2008 17:23:12 GMT -5
As I was watching the Palumbio/Noble match last night, I notice that when Noble went for the armbar, the first thing that popped in my mind was "He's going the crippler crossface". Of course he went with the armbar, but it got me thinking that do you think anybody will use the crossface again? If they do use the move again, would it be called the crossface, or just something else?
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Post by Tyfo on Mar 1, 2008 17:24:42 GMT -5
I bet Shawn Michaels will....
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 1, 2008 17:26:27 GMT -5
I bet Shawn Michaels will.... will...did....whatever. |
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Post by >(straightedgepunk)< on Mar 1, 2008 17:27:16 GMT -5
HBK used at Survivor Series '07 but was not acknowleged in commentary. He also used it at No Way Out '08 and this time J.R. did infact refer to it as "Crossface". Other than HBK, no one has used it since Benoit.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 1, 2008 17:44:35 GMT -5
Benoit didn't invent the move did he? No reason for anyone not to and make it their own; could just call it something different than 'crippler'. Look how many people use power bombs, choke slams, ddts, figure fours... ad infinitum.
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 1, 2008 19:10:06 GMT -5
HBK used at Survivor Series '07 but was not acknowleged in commentary. He also used it at No Way Out '08 and this time J.R. did infact refer to it as "Crossface". Other than HBK, no one has used it since Benoit. BAH GAWD! ITS THE CHRISTIAN CROSSFACE |
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 1, 2008 19:11:17 GMT -5
Its safe to say the move will never again be referred to as the "Crippler" Crossface.
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Post by Tyfo on Mar 1, 2008 19:18:50 GMT -5
Benoit didn't invent the move did he? No reason for anyone not to and make it their own; could just call it something different than 'crippler'. Look how many people use power bombs, choke slams, ddts, figure fours... ad infinitum. I believe Dean Malenko came up with the move. |
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Post by mrjl on Mar 1, 2008 19:57:08 GMT -5
Benoit didn't invent the move did he? No reason for anyone not to and make it their own; could just call it something different than 'crippler'. Look how many people use power bombs, choke slams, ddts, figure fours... ad infinitum. I believe Dean Malenko came up with the move. Yeah, and he gave it to Benoit. As to the name I think the WWE had pretty much shortened the name to crossface within a couple of years of him being there. |
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 1, 2008 20:07:52 GMT -5
Whether it's ok for the WWE to use or not, I still get a lil uncomfortable watching it done quite frankly.
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Post by FurryMan on Mar 1, 2008 20:18:33 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it.
And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2008 20:22:11 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it. And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb? Maybe, if he used it (supposedly) to kill his son. Hard to say, since the Benoit incident was pretty much the first of its kind. It's interesting about the crossface because, Cena uses a crossface as his finisher, bu its different enough that it hasn't been called out as disrespectful (and I'm not saying it should, but he is indeed using a crossface as part of the move, different arm placement or not). |
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 1, 2008 20:22:29 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it. And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb? I sure hope so. God I'm sick of that move. Everytime they can't come up with a finisher for someone, they give them a powerbomb. And usually call it <their name>bomb. Sablebomb? WTF? I remember when Batista first started using the tigerbomb, I rolled my eyes and said "at least they didn't call it the Batistabomb..." That didn't last long. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 1, 2008 20:23:10 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it. And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb? Maybe, if he used it (supposedly) to kill his son. Hard to say, since the Benoit incident was pretty much the first of its kind. It's interesting about the crossface because, Cena uses a crossface as his finisher, bu its different enough that it hasn't been called out as disrespectful (and I'm not saying it should, but he is indeed using a crossface as part of the move, different arm placement or not). . No-one really believes Benoit used the damn crossface to do what he did! |
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 1, 2008 20:25:38 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it. And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb? Maybe, if he used it (supposedly) to kill his son. Hard to say, since the Benoit incident was pretty much the first of its kind. It's interesting about the crossface because, Cena uses a crossface as his finisher, bu its different enough that it hasn't been called out as disrespectful (and I'm not saying it should, but he is indeed using a crossface as part of the move, different arm placement or not). Yeah, Benoit killed him with a crossface... Also, did you know the real Ultimate Warrior died a long time ago, and they hired his brother to do the part? |
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Post by mrjl on Mar 1, 2008 20:34:23 GMT -5
It's a wrestling move, and a legit looking submission hold, I don't see any trouble with it. And if say, Nash, went and did bad things, would everyone stop doing/mentioning the powerbomb? I sure hope so. God I'm sick of that move. Everytime they can't come up with a finisher for someone, they give them a powerbomb. And usually call it <their name>bomb. Sablebomb? WTF? I remember when Batista first started using the tigerbomb, I rolled my eyes and said "at least they didn't call it the Batistabomb..." That didn't last long. And here I felt the powerbomb is underdone these days. Yo've got the Batista bomb and Khali's chokebomb. Undertaker occasionally uses the Last Ride. But Jaime Noble, Kane, JBL, William Regal, Chris Jericho, all those guys used to do variations of a powerbomb but hardly ever do anymore. I think it stinks no one does a regualt version anymore. |
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 1, 2008 20:37:57 GMT -5
I sure hope so. God I'm sick of that move. Everytime they can't come up with a finisher for someone, they give them a powerbomb. And usually call it <their name>bomb. Sablebomb? WTF? I remember when Batista first started using the tigerbomb, I rolled my eyes and said "at least they didn't call it the Batistabomb..." That didn't last long. And here I felt the powerbomb is underdone these days. Yo've got the Batista bomb and Khali's chokebomb. Undertaker occasionally uses the Last Ride. But Jaime Noble, Kane, JBL, William Regal, Chris Jericho, all those guys used to do variations of a powerbomb but hardly ever do anymore. I think it stinks no one does a regualt version anymore. That's true I guess.... I don't have any problem with it as a regular move like those guys usually use it as. Just as a finisher. I always thought finishers should be fairly unique. While that's not always possible, a big guy doing a powerbomb and naming it after himself is about as generic as you can get. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2008 20:51:36 GMT -5
Maybe, if he used it (supposedly) to kill his son. Hard to say, since the Benoit incident was pretty much the first of its kind. It's interesting about the crossface because, Cena uses a crossface as his finisher, bu its different enough that it hasn't been called out as disrespectful (and I'm not saying it should, but he is indeed using a crossface as part of the move, different arm placement or not). . No-one really believes Benoit used the damn crossface to do what he did! That's why I said supposedly. I don't believe it; but I'm pretty sure the Nancy Graces of the world believe that he did. "No-one really belives...", uh, how about all the people on the news who reported that he did use the move? |
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Post by Topher is Human on Mar 1, 2008 21:52:23 GMT -5
It was never said to be the crossface, just a wrestling-based choke hold... the crossface isn't a choke hold.
People just had fun with it/overreacted.
Also, is the move in SVR08? I haven't actually checked.
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 1, 2008 21:57:46 GMT -5
It was never said to be the crossface, just a wrestling-based choke hold... the crossface isn't a choke hold. People just had fun with it/overreacted. Also, is the move in SVR08? I haven't actually checked. Kind of. It isn't selectable normally, but if you use a hex editor such as a codebreaker you can set it. There's even two new versions of it. Imagine that, they FINALLY re-animate a move that needs it, and then they can't put it in. |
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