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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 5, 2008 22:57:15 GMT -5
If marks are ppl who think wrestlings real and smarks are fans who know inside info, then wat r fans that know that wrestling is real, but dont know any inside info?
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 5, 2008 23:03:41 GMT -5
If marks are ppl who think wrestlings real and smarks are fans who know inside info, then wat r fans that know that wrestling is real, but dont know any inside info? Marks. I'm pretty sure marks know it's not real. The people who actually think it's all real are called mentally challenged. |
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Post by Godhand on Mar 5, 2008 23:09:09 GMT -5
They are smarks. The traditional definiton of smark is jsut someone who knows wrestling is fake but still watches. Wrestling is a fake sport and if you pay for it and beleive it is real you are essentially being conned you are a "Mark". A smart mark is a person who knows it is fake so they are smart to the business, but they are still paying for a fake sport so they are still marks.
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Post by Spyke the Pacers Fan on Mar 5, 2008 23:09:46 GMT -5
If marks are ppl who think wrestlings real and smarks are fans who know inside info, then wat r fans that know that wrestling is real, but dont know any inside info? Marks. I'm pretty sure marks know it's not real. The people who actually think it's all real are called mentally challenged. Or they're also commonly known as kids. |
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 5, 2008 23:18:07 GMT -5
Marks. I'm pretty sure marks know it's not real. The people who actually think it's all real are called mentally challenged. Or they're also commonly known as kids. I'm pretty sure even kids know the Undertaker isn't really dead. |
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Post by thesunbeast on Mar 5, 2008 23:42:06 GMT -5
Actually, the difinitions have changed because the industry has changed, but it still has to do with secret knowlege and common knowlege.
The definitions today are this:
Mark: Someone who makes conclusions based off of personal tastes.
Smart: Someone who has uncommon inside knowlege.
Those are the main two. A smart mark is someone with both of these, they are both smart and a mark, they use their uncommon inside knowlege to justify their personal tastes.
Someone who knows that wrestling isn't real but dosen't know any inside info that isn't common knowlege, is a mark. They don't know anything that isn't common knowlege, they know what they should know.
Basically, a mark is a fan. If you have personal tastes, you're a fan. Everyone that watches is a mark. You have many different types of marks, regular marks, internet marks, smart marks ect....they're all marks. People in the IWC aren't necessarily smart marks either, everyone in the internet wrestling world knows what the terms are, but they don't have much real inside info, because the info that's everywhere in the internet isn't "inside" so to speak, It's common knowlege in the internet, but not in the real world, so they're internet marks.
You do have people on the internet that still have inside info, these a smart marks. What it takes to be "smart" is different now than it was 30 years ago. Muhammad Ali knew that wrestling was fake, with good guys and bad guys, in 1970, so he was "smart", it was inside info that not many people knew.
Today, if someone knew the absolute first thing about even putting together a match, they would be smart, It's inside info that isn't known much in the world or on the internet.
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Post by Godhand on Mar 5, 2008 23:50:25 GMT -5
Today, if someone knew the absolute first thing about even putting together a match, they would be smart, It's inside info that isn't known much in the world or on the internet. what about all thsoe secrets of the ring, and inside the ring with dvds, and shoot interviews, that are widley available from a number of websites and that a good number of internet fans have seen? |
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Post by xcv on Mar 5, 2008 23:54:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure even kids know the Undertaker isn't really dead. When I was a kid I just thought him and PB were funeral/graveyard workers (they themselves being very much alive, just trying to manage the dead). |
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 5, 2008 23:54:04 GMT -5
According to the boys, we're all marks.
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Post by weaselboy on Mar 5, 2008 23:55:41 GMT -5
I think these days the definitions are simply this
Marks=traditional casual fan of pro wrestling looked down upon by smart fans
Smarks=internet used term so elitist smart fans can look down on other smart fans for not being as smart as they are. This smartier than thou attitude will of course mean that one day these fans will have to create a new term to look down on these types of fans thus creating smartsmarks, supersmartsmarks, supersmarketsweeps e.t.c the whole thing will continue in a typical Russian doll sort of fashion until the internet collapses under a heaving ball of pompousity.
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Post by Godhand on Mar 6, 2008 0:00:46 GMT -5
I think these days the definitions are simply this Marks=traditional casual fan of pro wrestling looked down upon by smart fans Smarks=internet used term so elitist smart fans can look down on other smart fans for not being as smart as they are. This smartier than thou attitude will of course mean that one day these fans will have to create a new term to look down on these types of fans thus creating smartsmarks, supersmartsmarks, supersmarketsweeps e.t.c the whole thing will continue in a typical Russian doll sort of fashion until the internet collapses under a heaving ball of pompousity. Yeah thats how it seems to be these days, everyone wants everyone else to know they are better than you |
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Post by damna on Mar 6, 2008 3:32:46 GMT -5
Virgins?
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Mar 6, 2008 4:09:53 GMT -5
wat r fans that know that wrestling is real, but dont know any inside info? So you say wrestling is real? I knew it! |
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Post by cart on Mar 6, 2008 11:39:10 GMT -5
so-called smarks don't really know inside info, we just read what the internet says, sometimes its right, sometimes its wrong. I always wonder what the actual wrestlers think of guys on the net who actually think that they have insider info when they are sitting in their house and have never been near a backstage area.
Technically I'm a smark because im on this board, but I dunno anything that goes on inside, and i never will.
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Post by cart on Mar 6, 2008 11:40:53 GMT -5
didn't see this until after the original post, but i don't care who you are that's funny right there. |
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Post by thesunbeast on Mar 6, 2008 14:47:06 GMT -5
Today, if someone knew the absolute first thing about even putting together a match, they would be smart, It's inside info that isn't known much in the world or on the internet. what about all thsoe secrets of the ring, and inside the ring with dvds, and shoot interviews, that are widley available from a number of websites and that a good number of internet fans have seen? Those don't count. If you think the info that you get there is nearly the same as the real info for putting together a match, then they're going to have a very easy time hiding that info. |
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Post by thesunbeast on Mar 6, 2008 14:49:15 GMT -5
so-called smarks don't really know inside info, we just read what the internet says, sometimes its right, sometimes its wrong. I always wonder what the actual wrestlers think of guys on the net who actually think that they have insider info when they are sitting in their house and have never been near a backstage area. Technically I'm a smark because im on this board, but I dunno anything that goes on inside, and i never will. Well, everything you sdaid here is the def of "internet mark". |
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Post by Godhand on Mar 6, 2008 14:51:58 GMT -5
what about all thsoe secrets of the ring, and inside the ring with dvds, and shoot interviews, that are widley available from a number of websites and that a good number of internet fans have seen? Those don't count. If you think the info that you get there is nearly the same as the real info for putting together a match, then they're going to have a very easy time hiding that info. I guess I will have to bow to your OBVIOUSLY superior more well informed expertise on the wrestling business. SInce you seem to think you know everything anyway  |
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Post by thesunbeast on Mar 6, 2008 20:47:05 GMT -5
Those don't count. If you think the info that you get there is nearly the same as the real info for putting together a match, then they're going to have a very easy time hiding that info. I guess I will have to bow to your OBVIOUSLY superior more well informed expertise on the wrestling business. SInce you seem to think you know everything anyway NO!, that's not what I'm saying!, Please don't paint that pictur of me. It's not about me. Just saying that pro wrestling is so much of an art form that It's incredibly difficult to be good at. There's so much thought that has been put into so much of the most basic things that it's not even funny. It's so much that when some people say it others might roll their eyes and say "yeah right", but that's only because It's hard to believe. Pro wrestling is an art, not a science, meaning that you have to be an artist, and create things yourself, only a trainer can show you the moves and basic psychology, but you have to get lessons from some of the greats on how to apply that art. I actually have a few dvds that are filled with proper instuction on how to do alot of moves, but after a few years, I came to realise that the real info is what you do with that, and that stuff is still inside info for the most part. Even Lanny Poffo said that most schools are just sharks looking to take your money. Not that they mean to do it, but they can't show you what you'd need to make it. Lanny said himself that If he decided to run a wrestling school, that no matter how hard he tried, he wouldn't be able to show you how to adapt yourself to today's environment, because he only wrestled in the 80's. It would be inside info that you would need, and I only braught that up because there's a ton of it. I don't know most of it, I've just met enough wrestlers to know that it's there. When you see someone wrestle, you may think that they're just being themself, but when you talk to them in a bar for 10 minutes, you see what's different and then you know what part of the act was a work and what wasn't, and why. |
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Mar 6, 2008 20:48:34 GMT -5
All wrestling fans are marks.
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