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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 6, 2008 13:12:40 GMT -5
The "IWC in 2015" thread seriously got me thinking about something that's always interested me: nostalgia.
If you were online in 1999/2000, you might remember how the spoken-fondly-of Rock got a noticable backlash from fans. He was only significantly booed when against certain wrestlers, like Austin and Hogan a couple of years later, but there were a lot of critsisms that eerily remind me of what I hear about John Cena, such as a lack of realistic elements in matches and looking overly powerful (Rock won a fair share of handicap matches).
Fast-forward 8 years later, and the Rock is a very beloved name among devoted fans, something that can't be said for Cena. In Rock's favor, though, he seemed to be free from some critisisms I hear regarding Cena, like a lack of serious edge (Rock insulted faces and heels alike, and would attack anyone), and way-too-long title reigns (Rock's longest was 5 months, but then again it was the Attitude era). And while I heard a lot of fans say "I hate the Rock, I hope Angle/HHH/Benoit takes him down", I rarely ever heard anyone say "Rock puts me to sleep".
I'm curious as to how you think Cena will be thought of. Will there still be a bad taste in some folks' mouths regarding alleged perdictability, or will time soften his legacy?
And no, this isn't a "someday you'll see" thread, I seriously want to know.
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Post by molson5 on Mar 6, 2008 13:15:50 GMT -5
Not as big as Hogan, but bigger than everyone else.
More people would have been negative about the Rock had he stuck around all these years. Some were starting to find the act old.
Who knows what happens in the future of the industry, of course. But Cena is the main guy in one of the WWE's most profitable periods.
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 6, 2008 13:16:43 GMT -5
I already said this in the other thread, but I'll say it again.
He'll be remembered very fondly. Everyone will claim to have been his fan all along. He will be remembered as *THE* Signature wrestler of his era.
Whoever the guy that has taken the ball from him at that time will be endlessly ridiculed by internet know-it-alls who think they know what everyone wants to see. They will all say that they wish John Cena could come back and get Wrestler X off my TV screen.
Then in 2028 the cycle repeats itself...over and over and over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2008 13:18:52 GMT -5
John Cena is a lot like cocaine. Mindblowingly awesome in small doses, but too much of him and you start to vomit and convulse
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Post by Mickie Sixx on Mar 6, 2008 13:19:35 GMT -5
I think Cena will be remembered for being unique in the sense that he has been kept at his spot, without change, despite the fact that the product suffers with his involvement, and that (kids aside) he is very disliked by wrellting fans. When the same thing happened to Kevin Nash and HBK, they were stripped of the belts. When heels like Stone Cold and The Rock were cheered enough, they were turned face. When faces like Bret Hart and XPac began to be booed, they were turned heel.
Cena is perhaps the only one who has been given to the fans with a "he's your main event babyface whether you like it or not" mentality, and for that he'll probably be remembered for his dull "1994-esque" era in history.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Mar 6, 2008 13:19:45 GMT -5
"In an age where Rey Mysterio masks and DX glow sticks run rampant across the land, one man and his camoflouge t-shirts marketed towards children shall be king."
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Post by Tyfo on Mar 6, 2008 13:28:17 GMT -5
You didn't have to be an internet fan to not be on the Rock bandwagon. I didn't have 'net access at my house until Sept. of 2000. Yet 2 months earlier, in the crowd at Fully Loaded, I got a decent "Lets Go Benoit" chant going during the main event.
Did I dislike the Rock at the time? No, not really. I was just a HUGE Chris Benoit mark from the time he was in ECW until he died.
With Cena, I think he will be remembered a lot better then we talk about him now. I also remember lots of negativity towards The Rock in late 2000 and into 2001. It got even bigger when he would do the part time schedule to shoot a movie. But now most people look back and remember him fondly. I think the situation with Cena will be similar.
If nothing else, I see it being a Hogan type situation. Not everybody "likes" him, but most respect him and will still pop when he makes an occasional appearance. And Cena is 10x the "worker" that Hogan ever was in terms of dedication and the work he will put in.
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Post by normcoleman on Mar 6, 2008 13:32:23 GMT -5
a decent wrestler with bad booking
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Post by bubbles on Mar 6, 2008 13:49:13 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 34: Cena jobs to Hogan
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Post by Tyfo on Mar 6, 2008 14:00:31 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 34: Cena jobs to Hogan By that time, HBK saying Hogan will be 102 years old by the time of the match will be true ;D |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 6, 2008 14:03:38 GMT -5
John Cena is a lot like cocaine. Mindblowingly awesome in small doses, but too much of him and you start to vomit and convulse Greatest analogy ever. |
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Post by Branimal on Mar 6, 2008 14:07:09 GMT -5
I'm not a Cena Hater persay. I did slightly miss him while he was gone with the injury..but I was a little happy to have a break from him.
I think its a case of "You don't realize what you have until its gone".
Some people apparently didn't like Rock when he was around..but now that he's gone..most would really like to have him back.
I think the same will happen with Cena.
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Post by salTy on Mar 6, 2008 14:10:06 GMT -5
John Cena is a lot like cocaine. Mindblowingly awesome in small doses, but too much of him and you start to vomit and convulse Very well said. He also burns in the insides of your nostrils. |
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Post by seano on Mar 6, 2008 14:12:31 GMT -5
If there is a God, the world will be a lifeless husk by 2018.
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Post by plushtar on Mar 6, 2008 15:54:34 GMT -5
Cena is starting to grow on the IWC so I think we will all be fans of him by that time. He really caught on during his feud with the ECW Originals (fans, not the wrestlers); obviously compare that to Big Dave reacting to the ECW Originals.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 6, 2008 16:28:30 GMT -5
If I don't like Hogan, why would my opinion of Cena change in ten years?
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Post by bubbles on Mar 6, 2008 16:33:49 GMT -5
I would have never have thought he was a homos...
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 6, 2008 16:36:42 GMT -5
I would have never have thought he was a homos... Homosapien? Yeah shocked me too. I thought that Prototype gimmick was a shoot.  |
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Post by MiLo Duck on Mar 6, 2008 16:36:58 GMT -5
To me the biggest factor will be the infusion into the IWC of young fans growing into the bitter and jaded world of the IWC. They will be the biggest part pushing Cena as nostalgia. I liken it to people, hopefully younger than me, who wax about the Power Rangers as nostalgia on various threads in Off Topic. It isn't to me, but it was a part of their childhood.
Overall, I think people will point to only a couple of years in John Cena's career as crap either way. The monster push into main event is what I hated. It all came to a head with RVD at One Night Stand and now he is at the top and no longer needs the title to be number one. Things aren't non-stop Cena, so now I can enjoy him as a persona and as a performer once again. I think this is overall how he will be remembered from this period.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Mar 6, 2008 16:39:10 GMT -5
I think Cena will be looked on as more of a Bret Hart type of wrestler.
He will still have a lot of fans that look back on his career fondly, but he will also have a lot of detractors.
As for my opinion, I think Cena is a good, capable wrestler, but he has done little promo or match-wise to set him apart from any other semi-talented, capable guy who got a huge push. He hasn't given any truly memorable promos or matches like a Flair, Hart, Foley, Guerrero,, Savage, Hogan, or Austin.
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