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Post by Stab Sword on Apr 1, 2008 9:22:30 GMT -5
Which leagues do you see as bigger than the other.
1. WWE
2. ROH (Continue to grow in fan base)
3. TNA (They will never go beyond a 1.3)
4. CZW (Around for 9 years, they must be doing something right)
5. Chikara (Best of comedy and action)
6. FIP (Just based on ROH's guys working there)
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Post by Styx Cover Band on Apr 1, 2008 9:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 9:44:52 GMT -5
Promotions as Restaurants
1. WWE - McDonald's (most popular, but tastes like crap and is death for its customers)
2. ROH - Carl's Jr (a significantly different product that tastes pretty good and has a big following among a niche audience).
3. TNA - Burger King (trying to be #1. better commericals, but the food is only slightly better than McDonald's)
4. CZW - Taco Bell (appeals to a specific kind of person. The inauthentic taste of the food is good, but always leaves you with a queasy feeling)
5. Chikara - Cici's Pizza (you get a lot of bang for your buck and usually end up asking yourself "is that how pizza is supposed to be made?")
6. FIP - Hardee's (a lighter version of ROH)
7. PWG - White Castle (Tasty, good-natured fun. people love them, but only available in limited supply and in very few places)
8. SHIMMER - Subway (not a lot of flash, but a healthy alternative to most other products out there that offer similar products)
9. IWA-MS - Popeye's (alot like NWA, but a little bit spicier at times)
10. NWA - KFC (good ol' down home wrasslin, deep fried in new school goodness)
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Post by Ace Baretta on Apr 1, 2008 10:37:37 GMT -5
Promotions as Restaurants 1. WWE - McDonald's (most popular, but tastes like crap and is death for its customers) 2. ROH - Carl's Jr (a significantly different product that tastes pretty good and has a big following among a niche audience). 3. TNA - Burger King (trying to be #1. better commericals, but the food is only slightly better than McDonald's) 4. CZW - Taco Bell (appeals to a specific kind of person. The inauthentic taste of the food is good, but always leaves you with a queasy feeling) 5. Chikara - Cici's Pizza (you get a lot of bang for your buck and usually end up asking yourself "is that how pizza is supposed to be made?") 6. FIP - Hardee's (a lighter version of ROH) 7. PWG - White Castle (Tasty, good-natured fun. people love them, but only available in limited supply and in very few places) 8. SHIMMER - Subway (not a lot of flash, but a healthy alternative to most other products out there that offer similar products) 9. IWA-MS - Popeye's (alot like NWA, but a little bit spicier at times) 10. NWA - KFC (good ol' down home wrasslin, deep fried in new school goodness) This? This is a prime example of WIN. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 1, 2008 10:41:55 GMT -5
Promotions as Restaurants 1. WWE - McDonald's (most popular, but tastes like crap and is death for its customers) 2. ROH - Carl's Jr (a significantly different product that tastes pretty good and has a big following among a niche audience). 3. TNA - Burger King (trying to be #1. better commericals, but the food is only slightly better than McDonald's) 4. CZW - Taco Bell (appeals to a specific kind of person. The inauthentic taste of the food is good, but always leaves you with a queasy feeling) 5. Chikara - Cici's Pizza (you get a lot of bang for your buck and usually end up asking yourself "is that how pizza is supposed to be made?") 6. FIP - Hardee's (a lighter version of ROH) 7. PWG - White Castle (Tasty, good-natured fun. people love them, but only available in limited supply and in very few places) 8. SHIMMER - Subway (not a lot of flash, but a healthy alternative to most other products out there that offer similar products) 9. IWA-MS - Popeye's (alot like NWA, but a little bit spicier at times) 10. NWA - KFC (good ol' down home wrasslin, deep fried in new school goodness) This? This is a prime example of WIN. And it's actually pretty damn right on the money. |
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Post by The Line on Apr 1, 2008 10:55:11 GMT -5
My ranks.
1. WWE-Still the top dog, especially around this time of the year. And if last night's Raw was any indication, their current/near-future quality may start to reflect that.
2(t)-TNA & ROH-TNA has more national exposure in the facets of TV and PPV, but ROH is running more markets(succsessfully I might add), and in some cases, even out-drawing TNA in some of those markets. To summarize, TNA has more to work with, but ROH does a better job with what they have.
4. CZW-A promotion that always seems to be on the cusp of getting up there with the "big 3", but something always happens to prevent that.
5. PWG- Could easily become a "western power" in a very East-coast dominated industry.
6. IWA-MS-Has been around longest out of these companies, with the exception of WWE, and they've had some great shows, but the fact that they almost went out of business last year doesn't look to favorably to them.
7. FIP- A good little promotion that has the resources to possibly step up into a 3/4/5 role some day. They have help from their "sister orgranization" ROH, and they have a pretty extensive commercial DVD library. And they have some great talent, as well.
8. CHIKARA-Great in-ring action, awesome comedy, but still far to niche of a product to be any higher.
9. NWA-They have name value, and a TV deal(on an obscure network, though), but since splitting with TNA, they really haven't made the impact(no pun) they should have.
10. SHIMMER-Pretty much the same as CHIKARA, but just with women instead of comedy. Not many mainstream fans are ready to accept women's wrestling. But their commercial DVD distribution helps them.
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Post by Dragonfly on Apr 1, 2008 11:24:36 GMT -5
1) WWE: Just when I think that they're down for the count, they produce shows like Wrestlemania and last night's Raw.
2) TNA - More of a "mainstream" presence than ROH.
3) ROH/FIP - I consider FIP to be ROH's unofficial "development territory" anymore, so they get lumped in together. Both promotions but on great shows, but really doesn't appeal to the "regular" fan. That seems to be changing though.
4) Chikara - The Internet's favorite promotion that doesn't contain the letters "ROH." That alone makes it a solid number four.
5) CZW - When people think of "hardcore," they think of them.
6) PWG - For many people, PWG was the promotion that introduced them to the SoCal wrestling scene. They consistently put on great shows.
7) IWC - Family friendly ECW. While the shows have a distinct "ECW" feel to them (the current champ is the Sandman), the swearing, sex, and blood is kept to a minimum. Should be expanding into Ohio soon, thanks to promoter Norm Connors to stepping into the background.
8) IWA Mid-South - They would be higher on this list if it wasn't for the fact that they could go out of business at any minute. It's hardcore wrestling that non-hardcore fans can watch. Just make sure you know which show you're buying.
9) Shimmer - Making woman's wrestling respectable again.
10) NWA - Way too scattered for their own good. That being said, I think they're on the right track.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Apr 1, 2008 11:38:12 GMT -5
CZW - This more closely resembles a backyard promotion. CZW will never make it real waves. They tried to rise from the ashes of ECW. So did ROH. ROH was the way to go. Garbage wrestling was a fad.
IWA-MS - How is IWA-MS still around? Weren't they supposed to close down years ago. I actually own ONE IWA MS King of the Death match. The worst tape I ever traded for. Ian Rotten does nothing for me. Mutilation does nothing for me.
NWA - The NWA is dead. They do not own any vintage footage. They are just a name. That is it. They really should just cease to exist.
To be doing well you have to make money. I don't see how any of the promotions make money. Or have any upward mobility. They will remain in obscurity.
If this was 20 years ago the NWA would be up for debate. If this was 12 years ago IWA: MS would be up for discussion. Come on lets cut the fat on this list of promotions. The rule should be you have to at least appear to be making money or at least have a remote chance of growing. Why not throw XPW in there, aren't they holding a show?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 11:58:07 GMT -5
If this was 20 years ago the NWA would be up for debate. If this was 12 years ago IWA: MS would be up for discussion. Come on lets cut the fat on this list of promotions. The rule should be you have to at least appear to be making money or at least have a remote chance of growing. Why not throw XPW in there, aren't they holding a show? I see your point, but I don't think you should count them out. If they're still putting on shows and are recognizable in general - I don't see why we shouldn't include them. |
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Post by vanderpyle on Apr 1, 2008 13:35:29 GMT -5
NWA - The NWA is dead. They do not own any vintage footage. They are just a name. That is it. They really should just cease to exist. Yeah, because any alliance of wrestling feds that ran over 500 shows last year with over 1500 different wrestlers appearing in matches is dead. Especially when the next year they add NJPW & IWA-PR plus Blue Demon himself creates a new company so that there can be NWA Mexico. Yep, absolutely and completely dead. A wrestling show being criticized for having too much wrestling, arena shows that only draw up to 4500 at times, the rebirth of the territory system, etc. You are so right. NWA is RIP. The simple fact is that since the NWA is not one super fed with a few smaller regions like it was in the 70s and 80s, some people assume it isn't doing anything. Right now the NWA is much more like it was in the 50s and 60s when the talent really was more evenly spread throughout the country. The NWA is not a wrestling fed. It is 40some different wrestling feds recognizing the same World Champions. Thank you for your time, and now back to a very special episode of Voyagers. |
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Post by thereallybigshow on Apr 1, 2008 16:22:53 GMT -5
NWA - The NWA is dead. They do not own any vintage footage. They are just a name. That is it. They really should just cease to exist. Yeah, because any alliance of wrestling feds that ran over 500 shows last year with over 1500 different wrestlers appearing in matches is dead. Especially when the next year they add NJPW & IWA-PR plus Blue Demon himself creates a new company so that there can be NWA Mexico. Yep, absolutely and completely dead. A wrestling show being criticized for having too much wrestling, arena shows that only draw up to 4500 at times, the rebirth of the territory system, etc. You are so right. NWA is RIP. The simple fact is that since the NWA is not one super fed with a few smaller regions like it was in the 70s and 80s, some people assume it isn't doing anything. Right now the NWA is much more like it was in the 50s and 60s when the talent really was more evenly spread throughout the country. The NWA is not a wrestling fed. It is 40some different wrestling feds recognizing the same World Champions. Thank you for your time, and now back to a very special episode of Voyagers. It is NWA in name only. Why even call it the NWA? They don't own the library. The "NWA" is a group of scattered indy promotions. Do they have a comprehensive website? Do they have any exclusive talent? I just don't see how "NWA" means anything anymore. the should do a complete overhaul and change the name. Then maybe they can create history instead of trying to relight a flame that went out in the 90's. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 16:40:06 GMT -5
Yeah, because any alliance of wrestling feds that ran over 500 shows last year with over 1500 different wrestlers appearing in matches is dead. Especially when the next year they add NJPW & IWA-PR plus Blue Demon himself creates a new company so that there can be NWA Mexico. Yep, absolutely and completely dead. A wrestling show being criticized for having too much wrestling, arena shows that only draw up to 4500 at times, the rebirth of the territory system, etc. You are so right. NWA is RIP. The simple fact is that since the NWA is not one super fed with a few smaller regions like it was in the 70s and 80s, some people assume it isn't doing anything. Right now the NWA is much more like it was in the 50s and 60s when the talent really was more evenly spread throughout the country. The NWA is not a wrestling fed. It is 40some different wrestling feds recognizing the same World Champions. Thank you for your time, and now back to a very special episode of Voyagers. It is NWA in name only. Why even call it the NWA? They don't own the library. The "NWA" is a group of scattered indy promotions. Do they have a comprehensive website? Do they have any exclusive talent? I just don't see how "NWA" means anything anymore. the should do a complete overhaul and change the name. Then maybe they can create history instead of trying to relight a flame that went out in the 90's. |
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Post by thereallybigshow on Apr 1, 2008 16:52:59 GMT -5
It is NWA in name only. Why even call it the NWA? They don't own the library. The "NWA" is a group of scattered indy promotions. Do they have a comprehensive website? Do they have any exclusive talent? I just don't see how "NWA" means anything anymore. the should do a complete overhaul and change the name. Then maybe they can create history instead of trying to relight a flame that went out in the 90's. oddly enough it won't load on my computer... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 16:54:37 GMT -5
wierd. it loaded okay on mine. The front page showed Quack with the junior heavy weight tile and updates. . .stuff like that.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Apr 1, 2008 16:58:24 GMT -5
wierd. it loaded okay on mine. The front page showed Quack with the junior heavy weight tile and updates. . .stuff like that. ok i got it working... I just don't the the usefulness of the NWA. WCW and TNA both dropped the NWA name because it isn't worth it in the long run. I don't see why an aspiring indy would even bother joining. What are the benefits? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 17:13:57 GMT -5
wierd. it loaded okay on mine. The front page showed Quack with the junior heavy weight tile and updates. . .stuff like that. ok i got it working... I just don't the the usefulness of the NWA. WCW and TNA both dropped the NWA name because it isn't worth it in the long run. I don't see why an aspiring indy would even bother joining. What are the benefits? I'm not sure exactly. I guess since the NWA Junior and Heavyweight titles are still sought after, then some higher level indy names might show up to an NWA sponsored event. I always thought it was kind of like a ready-made starter kit for people who want to start a wrestling federation. Once they get off the ground they can drop the NWA membership and strike out on their own. |
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Post by Joekishi on Apr 1, 2008 17:38:30 GMT -5
Promotions as Restaurants 1. WWE - McDonald's (most popular, but tastes like crap and is death for its customers) wha? Nope not going to agree. Because what WWE does produce isn't crap, from most indications it's actually at the top because it is the best. Anything else just does not come close to WWE. the NWA is something nobody really cares about, the vanderpyle guys just works for them |
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Post by Kae on Apr 8, 2008 17:25:27 GMT -5
I don't understand the question. Are you talking size or quality? Because the phrasing of the original post made it sound like you were going on size and that's not really too debatable.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2008 17:44:31 GMT -5
Promotions as Restaurants 1. WWE - McDonald's (most popular, but tastes like crap and is death for its customers) wha? Nope not going to agree. Because what WWE does produce isn't crap, from most indications it's actually at the top because it is the best. Anything else just does not come close to WWE. That's like circular thinking dude. Its the best because its at the top. Why is at the top? Because its the best? I mean, other than the fact that its the most popular, there's no other reason to think its superior. Like McDonald's. I eat there even though I know its bad for me, but I like it because its familiar and its what I'm used to. There are tons of places that are better than Mickey D's, but they're usually more expensive or a pain to get to. Perhaps "crap" was the wrong word though. They're very generic and not innovative imho. But its all relative. |
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