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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 18, 2008 21:18:15 GMT -5
The "sabotaging" part wasn't directed at you. I've read many wannabe conspiracy theorists on this board saying that's what happened. That's what it was directed at, not you. It's not really a conspiracy when the top guy who also has his hand in the booking is regularly stealing your heat for an extended period of time. I think people go a little crazy on that stuff, but the bottom line is that Orton should have been the one attacking Triple H, taking over Evolution and having a face Triple H chasing after him. That's the right booking move in that situation as far as that's concerned- and they did the complete opposite. That would have been excellent.
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Post by saggyboyflair on Mar 18, 2008 21:24:09 GMT -5
okk. Orton's face turn didnt work 4 YEARS AGO?? Believe it or not, besides us smarks on the board, the general audience has a short term memory and it wasnt orton's fault the face turn didnt work. Its was the crappy booking in how they turned him and pushed him to soon at 24 years of age. He needed another 2-3 years or so of being built as an established heel. You dont think his age had anything to do with it? Honestly, How many 24 year olds would know what the hell they are doing out there on the grand stage? Maybe 2 or 3 in history?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 18, 2008 21:25:56 GMT -5
He was over when he turned face. The crowd was already cheering him in Evolution. They didn't stop caring until he lost to Triple H at Unforgiven just weeks after winning the title. Then he KEPT LOSING!!! to Triple H at every turn, never getting the upper hand when it really counted, and on top of it, WWE took the trademark arrogance out of his character. And if you read my post properly, I never say that Triple H was sabotaging him. I wasn't talking about backstage politic BS. But on TELEVISION Triple H was making Orton's character look like a bitch. I don't care who is responsible for it, that is a fact. The "sabotaging" part wasn't directed at you. I've read many wannabe conspiracy theorists on this board saying that's what happened. That's what it was directed at, not you. My apologies, then. The subject of Triple H-otage gets pretty heated at times.
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Post by primetime110 on Mar 18, 2008 21:37:01 GMT -5
He was getting some pretty big pops last night going on an RKO rampage and I think it is safe to say that his heel world title run hasnt worked out im sure as well as orton has expected or management. Not all of Orton's fault since Cena got injured while him and Orton were in the middle of very good fued. Orton seems to be getting quite a bit of pops especially last night. Pretty good stuff though I didnt like the logic of the ME Orton did some pretty cool crap. I think Orton could pull off a pretty successful face turn if done right. After watching last night, Id have to agree. I just dont think now is the right time. I said this in another thread, and Ill say it again: People are too obsessed with his run in 2004, which is silly because it wasnt his fault. They threw togather a half assed turn completely out of left field and then proceeded to book him as a total bitch. How was anyone supposed to get over like that? If they put a solid effort into booking him as a face, it would work Exactly. It has to be a slow face turn. Not a 24 hour turn around and forced.
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Post by Branimal on Mar 18, 2008 21:40:16 GMT -5
He is a natural heel. He lacks the likeability for a face. I agree. I liked that he was getting over as the scumbag member of Evolution that he was..then he turned face..and sucked..I was happy when HHH took the belt from him at Unforgiven 2004. The current character he is right now is fantastic..although, he seems to have lost that edge he gave himself when he was punting people in the side of the head for months..he's still entertained me.
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Post by knifeedgepops on Mar 19, 2008 3:39:01 GMT -5
He's said himself that he prefers to be the heel, because all he has to do is act like himself. And you know what happens when someone is getting some heel pops and they turn them face to capitalize *cough* Doink *cough*.
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