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Post by Steve Corino Mark on Mar 19, 2008 18:21:55 GMT -5
How come someone can go ahead and bash Kennedy for being a liar and it goes over smooth but one negative thing gets said about Hardy lying to people about being an addict all along and people get all pissed off? I understand why Kennedy lied, he was trying to save face for the company that he works for (loyalty Vince take note of it). As far as Jeff goes, he lied to his fans for a long time that he wasn't an addict. Also, can someone tell me why exactly it seems the majority of people have forgiven him for pissing on the business once he left WWE?
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Post by Above Average on Mar 19, 2008 18:25:45 GMT -5
Because Jeff Hardy is an entertaining performer in the ring and on the microphone, whereas Kennedy's gimmick has become boring after 2 and a half years, and his matches aren't much to look at either.
Sad but true.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 19, 2008 18:27:01 GMT -5
People are fickle. Which is the answer to many questions 'round here if you stick around long enough.
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Post by Aceorton on Mar 19, 2008 18:46:24 GMT -5
How come someone can go ahead and bash Kennedy for being a liar and it goes over smooth but one negative thing gets said about Hardy lying to people about being an addict all along and people get all pissed off? If it makes you feel better, for the first week or so after Kennedy was exposed, there was a large segment of people on these boards who vehemently defended his lying. Eventually they either stopped arguing their point or started to agree that he was a scumbag.
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Post by CJ Denton is Egon on Mar 19, 2008 18:48:09 GMT -5
I trashed both of them.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Mar 19, 2008 18:51:43 GMT -5
Because Jeff Hardy is an entertaining performer in the ring and on the microphone, whereas Kennedy's gimmick has become boring after 2 and a half years, and his matches aren't much to look at either. Sad but true. QF-mother-smurfing-T
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Post by BHB on Mar 19, 2008 18:53:06 GMT -5
Plus Jeff lied about his previous suspension. He told people that WWE had given him time off to heal up, even though he was actually suspended for 30 days for a wellness violation.
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Post by joeman on Mar 19, 2008 18:55:23 GMT -5
How come someone can go ahead and bash Kennedy for being a liar and it goes over smooth but one negative thing gets said about Hardy lying to people about being an addict all along and people get all pissed off? I understand why Kennedy lied, he was trying to save face for the company that he works for (loyalty Vince take note of it). As far as Jeff goes, he lied to his fans for a long time that he wasn't an addict. Also, can someone tell me why exactly it seems the majority of people have forgiven him for pissing on the business once he left WWE? It is the same reason why people that despite his great wrestling skills, Triple H is hated for crimes the newz sites made up but the same people respects the hell out of Chris Benoit, a legit murderous scum.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Mar 19, 2008 18:59:48 GMT -5
Because Jeff Hardy is an entertaining performer in the ring and on the microphone, whereas Kennedy's gimmick has become boring after 2 and a half years, and his matches aren't much to look at either. Sad but true. Reason #3453 why with good workrate, you can get away with anything.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Mar 19, 2008 19:21:36 GMT -5
Kennedy has bored me for a few months and I don't really care if he's on my tv or not anymore. Hardy has put on consistantly great matches during those same months. Hardy was also being pushed to the point where he was literally the WWE's fastest rising star making him interesting and me actually caring whether he was on my tv or not.
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Post by robferatu on Mar 19, 2008 19:26:32 GMT -5
My probably with Mr. Kennedy is he's become stale. I use to love his work in the ring and promo's, but it's grown stale.
It's disconserting, someone I use to really be a fan of becoming so boring.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 19, 2008 20:00:00 GMT -5
hello, no one's bringin up the fact that Kennedy wouldn't shut up on WWe.com and TV about how Great the Wellness policy is, or that he trashed Superstar Billy Graham and a bunch of other guys claiming "That's how it was back then, it's so much better now".
Jeff's just a weird semi-metro artsy weirdo that we all figured was on drugs. Has no one listened to his music or remember his entrance involving swatting bees and dancing in paint?
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Post by Steve Corino Mark on Mar 19, 2008 21:42:10 GMT -5
How come someone can go ahead and bash Kennedy for being a liar and it goes over smooth but one negative thing gets said about Hardy lying to people about being an addict all along and people get all pissed off? I understand why Kennedy lied, he was trying to save face for the company that he works for (loyalty Vince take note of it). As far as Jeff goes, he lied to his fans for a long time that he wasn't an addict. Also, can someone tell me why exactly it seems the majority of people have forgiven him for pissing on the business once he left WWE? It is the same reason why people that despite his great wrestling skills, Triple H is hated for crimes the newz sites made up but the same people respects the hell out of Chris Benoit, a legit murderous scum. It's the other way around for me. I love Triple H and think he's a genius in this business, and I don't respect Benoit only his career.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 19, 2008 21:49:54 GMT -5
I go with the fact that Hardy's "personal demons" are the result of a sickness, a sickness of which trying to cover up his usage is a well-defined symptom.
Kennedy's "demons", on the other hand, were strictly a means to further his career, as were his lies.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 19, 2008 21:54:58 GMT -5
How come someone can go ahead and bash Kennedy for being a liar and it goes over smooth but one negative thing gets said about Hardy lying to people about being an addict all along and people get all pissed off? I understand why Kennedy lied, he was trying to save face for the company that he works for (loyalty Vince take note of it). As far as Jeff goes, he lied to his fans for a long time that he wasn't an addict. Also, can someone tell me why exactly it seems the majority of people have forgiven him for pissing on the business once he left WWE? It is the same reason why people that despite his great wrestling skills, Triple H is hated for crimes the newz sites made up but the same people respects the hell out of Chris Benoit, a legit murderous scum. Its because holding people back from getting a push is alot more devious than killing your wife and child, duh!
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Mar 19, 2008 22:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 19, 2008 22:17:01 GMT -5
I honeslty think more people were aware of Kennedy's comments on TV (I think it was Fox News) and he was quite straight forward. I don't think as many people knew about any past contradictory statements from Jeff Hardy because they weren't on as large a medium. Many people are upset at Jeff for screwing up again (we've heard tons of posts on it, especially on the first thread about it). I think more people criticized Kennedy for "lying" because more people simply heard his comments because he was on a major TV show.
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Post by marvelocity on Mar 19, 2008 22:22:28 GMT -5
I go with the fact that Hardy's "personal demons" are the result of a sickness, a sickness of which trying to cover up his usage is a well-defined symptom. Kennedy's "demons", on the other hand, were strictly a means to further his career, as were his lies. These are my feelings as well. Kennedy wasn't addicted to steroids, and he comes off as a complete hypocrite after being caught. Hardy has an illness and (assuming it was a recreational drug he was suspended for) it has most likely ceased to be a choice, more than a necessity, to use drugs. Not to get on my soapbox, but there are so many examples of destroyed lives, it makes you wonder why anyone would even try drugs or alcohol. Never results in anything positive. And I'm including steroids.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Mar 19, 2008 23:04:05 GMT -5
Kennedy was taking performance enhancers. Jeff Hardy, on the other hand, appears to be addicted to something. By definition, addicts cannot help themselves, and compassion is the order of the day.
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Post by Joekishi on Mar 19, 2008 23:12:34 GMT -5
People are fickle. Which is the answer to many questions 'round here if you stick around long enough. It seems weird that more people are forgiving if Jeff is using recreational drugs and falls "victim" to alcoholism. The same thing we mocked Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, X-pac, Konnan, Vampiro, and Raven for. I mean, it's just weird to see so many people jump to his defense, the same people that mock X-pac for his drug use, praise jeff and hope this doesn't have an affect on his push and status in the company. It's pretty much people being buttholes and being fickle. Really, I'll make fun of him because of his spastic dancing and his lame tatoos, and his craptacular wrestling. But I won't defend his drug use. I know drug addicts aren't bad people, i mean I know this guy who just died from taking way too much pain killers...finished 50 in one day, went to sleep never woke up. It's just you know I don't really pitty them, I feel for their families. Kennedy did something really stupid while trying to push that he's drug free and WWE's drug policy takes no prisoners no matter where you are on the card. Boom he gets caught, proves the drug testing to be nonrestrictive. I think people just mark out more for characters on TV and want to see the character they like, and only judge them for what's on tv. It's those other people who blame HHH that bug me. Steroids are addictive, did you never watch that saved by the bell episode where Slater goes on roids and gets all physical with Zach? Steroids are just as addictive and abusive as pain killers. They've done reports on steroids and HGh. There's a similar feeling to being high, and it's an adrenaline rush, it also greatly enhances your ability to keep working out. I mean look at Billy Graham, look at those FREAKS who are just made of muscle. People keep discounting steroids as not "As addictive", but they are. It's mind altering, it's mood altering, it's chemically altering. I don't know why people discount Kennedy just because he took "enhancing drugs', where I thought alcohol and pain pills also enhance your ability to perform. Jeez people.
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