nealo
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Post by nealo on Jan 26, 2008 11:35:46 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, so dont think im saying 'this is how everyone should think'.
the pros of TNA are:
much more exciting, fast paced action in the ring innovative match and wrestling styles. Stars you cant see on WWE TV like Aj Stles, Sting, Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, Shark Boy, etc. No 'controversial' storylines eg necrophilia
The Cons: Weak storylines. Sometimes none. Trying too much to be like WWE/WCW Pushes unknown stars thefans dont giv a hoot about. When a WWE stargets signed they automatically becoem champion within months.
anyone agree? disagree
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 26, 2008 11:52:43 GMT -5
I'd both agree and disagree with your list. WWE stars are being used differently when they come in, now. Like Booker. Here would be my list...
Pro: Do have a sense of humor about the business. Con: Resort to using that sense of humor a bit much, giving the show a sitcom feel. Sometimes, I'm just wating for a laugh track to go off.
Pro: Darn good wrestlers with amazing abilities Con: Occasinally spends too much time on the "Old Guard" and has them show up new talent. (An example from last year would be the debacle called the Sting/Daniels feud)
Pro: Willing to try different things to get noticed. A WCW tactic that worked great for them Con: Occasionally overdoes things and ruins the impact of them. Excessive Gimmick Matches come to mind.
Pro: Tomko Con: He isn't world champ yet.
Pro: They have a monster version of Mikey Whipwreck! (Rellik) Con: His name is Killer spelled backwards. If you haven't figured that out...don't worry, it'll get pounded home.
Pro: As said before, some of the most amazing wrestlers in the world. Con: One of the worst announce teams I've ever heard. UN-FRICKING-BELIEVABLE
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Rube
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It's always the same and it's always different.
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Post by Rube on Jan 26, 2008 12:24:30 GMT -5
Pros:
The comedy AJ Styles Tomko Kurt Angle Karen Angle Christian Cage Joe James Storm Robert Roode Jeremy Borash Awesome Kong ODB Gail Kim Roxxi Miss Jackie Team 3D Machine Guns Black Machismo Scott Steiner Matt Morgan Jim Cornette Kevin Nash Booker T
Cons: Dragging dead feuds out for a way too long(Roode vs Young, Abyss vs Mitchell) VKM Black Reign Tenay and West talking during promos.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 26, 2008 12:58:14 GMT -5
Pros: AJ Styles Tomko Kurt Angle Karen Angle Christian Cage Joe James Storm Robert Roode Jeremy Borash Awesome Kong ODB Gail Kim Roxxi Miss Jackie Team 3D Machine Guns Black Machismo Scott Steiner Matt Morgan Jim Cornette Kevin Nash Booker T You're right....they're definitely all pro wrestlers.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Jan 26, 2008 13:00:48 GMT -5
Pros: AJ Styles Tomko Kurt Angle Karen Angle Christian Cage Joe James Storm Robert Roode Jeremy Borash Awesome Kong ODB Gail Kim Roxxi Miss Jackie Team 3D Machine Guns Black Machismo Scott Steiner Matt Morgan Jim Cornette Kevin Nash Booker T You're right....they're definitely all pro wrestlers. And theyre all awesome!
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Rube
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Post by Rube on Jan 26, 2008 13:01:21 GMT -5
Pros: AJ Styles Tomko Kurt Angle Karen Angle Christian Cage Joe James Storm Robert Roode Jeremy Borash Awesome Kong ODB Gail Kim Roxxi Miss Jackie Team 3D Machine Guns Black Machismo Scott Steiner Matt Morgan Jim Cornette Kevin Nash Booker T You're right....they're definitely all pro wrestlers. Cornette and Borash aren't.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 26, 2008 13:09:56 GMT -5
You're right....they're definitely all pro wrestlers. Cornette and Borash aren't. That's what YOU think. Borash will kick your ass the next time he sees you! He's quick!
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Post by twiggy101 on Jan 26, 2008 14:00:47 GMT -5
Pro: Good alternative to WWE. Con: Run ins! Run ins! Run ins!
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Post by tombstoned on Jan 26, 2008 14:07:32 GMT -5
Pros: AJ Styles Tomko Kurt Angle Karen Angle Christian Cage Joe James Storm Robert Roode Jeremy Borash Awesome Kong ODB Gail Kim Roxxi Miss Jackie Team 3D Machine Guns Black Machismo Scott Steiner Matt Morgan Jim Cornette Kevin Nash Booker T You're right....they're definitely all pro wrestlers. I haven't seen Matt Morgan wrestle in such a long time I forgot that was his chosen profession.
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 26, 2008 14:10:27 GMT -5
Cornette and Borash aren't. That's what YOU think. Borash will kick your ass the next time he sees you! He's quick! Don't make any jokes about Borash's eyes when he is around either. I couldn't eat solid foods...for about twenty minutes. But that was a long twenty minutes, daggone it.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 26, 2008 15:51:23 GMT -5
When a WWE stargets signed they automatically becoem champion within months. anyone agree? disagree Sigh..... BG James Joined TNA: September 18, 2002 Became Champ: November 26, 2003 (NWA Tag Team w/3LK) Time In Between: 1 year, 2 months Black Reign/Dustin Rhodes Joined TNA: February 4th, 2004 Became Champ:N/A Booker T Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ:N/A Christian Cage Joined TNA: November 13, 2005 Became Champ: February 12, 2006(NWA World Title) Time In Between: 3 months Christy Hemme Joined TNA: April 23, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Gail Kim Joined TNA: October 8th, 2005 Became Champ: October 14th, 2007(TNA Women's Title) Time In Between: 2 years Jackie Moore Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Jeff Jarrett Joined TNA: He started it, dumbass!June 19, 2002 Became Champ: November 20th, 2002 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 5 months Kevin Nash Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Kip James Joined TNA: February 13, 2005 Became Champ: N/A Kurt Angle Joined TNA: October 19, 2006 Became Champ: June 17, 2007 (TNA World title) Time In Between: 8 months Raven Joined TNA: January 22, 2003 Became Champ: June 19th, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 2 Years, 6 months Rellik Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ: N/A Rhino Joined TNA: June 17, 2005 Became Champ: October 1st, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 4 months Scott Steiner Joined TNA: March 12, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Team 3D Joined TNA: September 21st, 2005 Became Champ: April 15th, 2007 (NWA World Tag Team Titles) Time In Between: 1 Year, 7 months Tomko Joined TNA: November 23, 2006 Became Champ: October 14, 2007 (TNA World Tag Team Titles w/ AJ Styles) Time In Between: 11 months .... Save this, cause I don't wanna do this again.
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Post by CJ Denton is Egon on Jan 26, 2008 17:01:10 GMT -5
When a WWE stargets signed they automatically becoem champion within months. anyone agree? disagree Sigh..... BG James Joined TNA: September 18, 2002 Became Champ: November 26, 2003 (NWA Tag Team w/3LK) Time In Between: 1 year, 2 months Black Reign/Dustin Rhodes Joined TNA: February 4th, 2004 Became Champ:N/A Booker T Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ:N/A Christian Cage Joined TNA: November 13, 2005 Became Champ: February 12, 2006(NWA World Title) Time In Between: 3 months Christy Hemme Joined TNA: April 23, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Gail Kim Joined TNA: October 8th, 2005 Became Champ: October 14th, 2007(TNA Women's Title) Time In Between: 2 years Jackie Moore Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Jeff Jarrett Joined TNA: He started it, dumbass!June 19, 2002 Became Champ: November 20th, 2002 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 5 months Kevin Nash Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Kip James Joined TNA: February 13, 2005 Became Champ: N/A Kurt Angle Joined TNA: October 19, 2006 Became Champ: June 17, 2007 (TNA World title) Time In Between: 8 months Raven Joined TNA: January 22, 2003 Became Champ: June 19th, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 2 Years, 6 months Rellik Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ: N/A Rhino Joined TNA: June 17, 2005 Became Champ: October 1st, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 4 months Scott Steiner Joined TNA: March 12, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Team 3D Joined TNA: September 21st, 2005 Became Champ: April 15th, 2007 (NWA World Tag Team Titles) Time In Between: 1 Year, 7 months Tomko Joined TNA: November 23, 2006 Became Champ: October 14, 2007 (TNA World Tag Team Titles w/ AJ Styles) Time In Between: 11 months .... Save this, cause I don't wanna do this again. This man Desives an Internet.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 26, 2008 17:03:54 GMT -5
You can't really use Gail and Jackie as an example though since there....."was no women's division, GAIL!" for a long while
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Post by toodarkmark on Jan 26, 2008 17:04:19 GMT -5
Pro: Its professional wrestling not owned by a monopoly.
Con: Bi-Polar writing teams.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Jan 26, 2008 17:04:47 GMT -5
You can't really use Gail and Jackie as an example though since there....."was no women's division, GAIL!" for a long while James Storm rules.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 26, 2008 17:07:11 GMT -5
You can't really use Gail and Jackie as an example though since there....."was no women's division, GAIL!" for a long while Hey, they could have brought back the Miss TNA crown any minute back then....
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Jan 26, 2008 18:33:24 GMT -5
Pro: Giving boring, lost in the shuffle wrestlers 'presonality' to get behind.
Con: They are usually comedy 'personalities' which initially get over and are funny but are dragged out to the point the wrestler(s) involved may never be taken seriously again.
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metylerca
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Post by metylerca on Jan 26, 2008 18:46:50 GMT -5
When a WWE stargets signed they automatically becoem champion within months. anyone agree? disagree Sigh..... BG James Joined TNA: September 18, 2002 Became Champ: November 26, 2003 (NWA Tag Team w/3LK) Time In Between: 1 year, 2 months Black Reign/Dustin Rhodes Joined TNA: February 4th, 2004 Became Champ:N/A Booker T Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ:N/A Christian Cage Joined TNA: November 13, 2005 Became Champ: February 12, 2006(NWA World Title) Time In Between: 3 months Christy Hemme Joined TNA: April 23, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Gail Kim Joined TNA: October 8th, 2005 Became Champ: October 14th, 2007(TNA Women's Title) Time In Between: 2 years Jackie Moore Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Jeff Jarrett Joined TNA: He started it, dumbass!June 19, 2002 Became Champ: November 20th, 2002 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 5 months Kevin Nash Joined TNA: November 7th, 2004 Became Champ: N/A Kip James Joined TNA: February 13, 2005 Became Champ: N/A Kurt Angle Joined TNA: October 19, 2006 Became Champ: June 17, 2007 (TNA World title) Time In Between: 8 months Raven Joined TNA: January 22, 2003 Became Champ: June 19th, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 2 Years, 6 months Rellik Joined TNA: November 11th, 2007 Became Champ: N/A Rhino Joined TNA: June 17, 2005 Became Champ: October 1st, 2005 (NWA World Title) Time In Between: 4 months Scott Steiner Joined TNA: March 12, 2006 Became Champ: N/A Team 3D Joined TNA: September 21st, 2005 Became Champ: April 15th, 2007 (NWA World Tag Team Titles) Time In Between: 1 Year, 7 months Tomko Joined TNA: November 23, 2006 Became Champ: October 14, 2007 (TNA World Tag Team Titles w/ AJ Styles) Time In Between: 11 months .... Save this, cause I don't wanna do this again. A) 9 out of 18 (or 16???) means at least half of them get titles, so it's not all-too convincing to say that WWE wrestlers don't get preference above homegrown talent. B) This thread is people's opinions on Pros and Cons of TNA, what good comes out of telling people that their opinions are incorrect? PRO: Awesome wrestling on PPV's, perhaps the best roster out there. -Ratings rising slowly, but at least it shows progress. -They have Tomko -Curry Man -Kazarian -Womens division CON: Doesn't utilize talent. -Horrible pacing on their shows. -Tries to be too much of a comedy/sitcom show, not a wrestling show. -Gimmicks galore -Don West/ Mike Tenay -Dustin Rhodes.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 26, 2008 18:57:43 GMT -5
A) 9 out of 18 (or 16???) means at least half of them get titles, so it's not all-too convincing to say that WWE wrestlers don't get preference above homegrown talent. B) This thread is people's opinions on Pros and Cons of TNA, what good comes out of telling people that their opinions are incorrect? The argument was "When a WWE star gets signed, they automatically become champion within months." That's what he said. I responded about how 9 of the 18 don't get titles, and 6 more had to wait around a year, more or less, to get one. So, about 3 got their titles within a few months, out of the 18 on the roster currently. He said if anyone agreed or disagreed to say it. As you can see, I disagreed and gave my reasons.
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Reverend BTY
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Post by Reverend BTY on Jan 26, 2008 19:04:33 GMT -5
PRO- Better matches than we get with WWE (especially on PPVs) More diversity (tag teams, women's matches, cruiserweight) Better wrestlers/more impressive wrestlers than WWE
CON- Shitty, shitty writing. Writing so bad it's considered two cons in my book. I still feel the show is rushed. Do we need a wacky angle or interview after every match?
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