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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 14:26:45 GMT -5
Could TNA ever challenge WWE?: I think TNA has a major hurdle to overcome — and that's the fact that they have no BRAND. There's no one on that roster that is branded TNA. You look at Kurt Angle and you think WWE. You look at Booker T and think WCW, five-time, five-time, five-time or King Booker in WWE. You look at The Dudleys and think ECW or WWE or even tables. You look at Samoa Joe, who should be the TNA guy, and you think this guy's great, when's he going to WWE. Are there hot moments? Sure. Are there personalities to like? Sure. Is there a good work rate? Sure. But there is no TNA style, TNA persona or TNA brand.
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Is Heyman right? of course he is - its paul e. dangerously for crying out loud.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 15, 2008 14:48:01 GMT -5
I think he's right.
As much as I have been enjoying TNA lately, there's no question in my mind that TNA is putting on a WWE style product.
TNA is not truly going to reach that next level until they start creating some stars of their own that will be the face of TNA to the general wrestling-viewing public. TNA has guys who are ripe for being the face of TNA, guys like Joe or Machismo. Hell, even Awesome Kong could be a representative of TNA because she is so different than every other woman in WWE or TNA.
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Post by Stu on Feb 15, 2008 14:48:06 GMT -5
I totally agree with this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 14:49:59 GMT -5
I personally think the MCMG are very much "TNA brand" - even my friends who watch little TNA think of the MCMG when I mention TNA. Joe should be, Lethal will be, and if TNA continues the Knockout division strong, Awesome Kong will be.
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 15, 2008 14:51:07 GMT -5
AJ Styles?
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Post by Reverend BTY on Feb 15, 2008 14:54:25 GMT -5
Although I agree, I think they are working on branding people that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 14:56:25 GMT -5
Styles and MCMG are just two drops in a sea of uber-mega-stars. If they were pushed more as the faces (not in the wrestling sense) of the company then that would be teh awesomess. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 15, 2008 14:56:47 GMT -5
I personally think the MCMG are very much "TNA brand" - even my friends who watch little TNA think of the MCMG when I mention TNA. Joe should be, Lethal will be, and if TNA continues the Knockout division strong, Awesome Kong will be. Well, t he thing is, even though the MCMG are TNA "brand" guys, they're not out there enough for everyone to say "TNA=Shelley and Sabin". As great as they are, they're not in the main mix of the promotion quite yet. |
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 15, 2008 14:58:47 GMT -5
Could TNA ever challenge WWE?: I think TNA has a major hurdle to overcome — and that's the fact that they have no BRAND. There's no one on that roster that is branded TNA. You look at Kurt Angle and you think WWE. You look at Booker T and think WCW, five-time, five-time, five-time or King Booker in WWE. You look at The Dudleys and think ECW or WWE or even tables. You look at Samoa Joe, who should be the TNA guy, and you think this guy's great, when's he going to WWE. Are there hot moments? Sure. Are there personalities to like? Sure. Is there a good work rate? Sure. But there is no TNA style, TNA persona or TNA brand. ------------------------------ Is Heyman right? of course he is - its paul e. dangerously for crying out loud. I definitely agree especially with the "this guy's great, when's he going to WWE" sentiment. I really feel that way about James Storm and MCMG. I'd also really like to see Kazarian and Tomko back in WWE after being solidified in TNA as top name guys. I wouldn't mind seeing Christian back in WWE and soon aswell. He's always spot on when it comes to criticisms of other companies. |
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Post by bob on Feb 15, 2008 15:11:04 GMT -5
he's right for the most part but there are some TNA guys: Samoa Joe, MCMG, Black Machismo, Robert Roode, AJ Styles, Abyss, and Kaz
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 15, 2008 15:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 15, 2008 15:30:38 GMT -5
Totally an ex WCW guy Same with Chris Daniels...if he wasn't fired. And someone like Curry Man is too linked to New Japan... Hmmmm, I wonder why I mentioned Daniels and Curry Man in the same sentence. Weird. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 15, 2008 15:30:41 GMT -5
AJ USED to be that face. Now, with Booker, Kurt, and Christian basically becoming the most recognized faces in the company, he's been pushed WAY into the background as a midcard comedy character, instead of the main eventer he should be. |
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 15, 2008 15:42:54 GMT -5
Except you know I think with more name main event guys, AJ is in a great spot as an upper-card wrestler. Which is where I think he should be for the moment.
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Post by Arsis Black on Feb 15, 2008 16:33:09 GMT -5
I think he's right. As much as I have been enjoying TNA lately, there's no question in my mind that TNA is putting on a WWE style product. TNA is not truly going to reach that next level until they start creating some stars of their own that will be the face of TNA to the general wrestling-viewing public. TNA has guys who are ripe for being the face of TNA, guys like Joe or Machismo. Hell, even Awesome Kong could be a representative of TNA because she is so different than every other woman in WWE or TNA. why cant you Just call WWE stlyle Sports Entertainment there not the only promotion who uses it and you cant be a star if no one kows who you are, you have to build the company first |
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Post by The Portable Stove on Feb 15, 2008 16:45:29 GMT -5
If we had the same AJ Styles from 2004-2005 today, feuding with these heels and ESPECIALLY against Team 3D due to the fact that AJ's main job was to protect the X-Division, then TNA would have their "TNA guy."
AJ Styles was TNA for the longest time, until he turned heel and eventually, became Christian's lackey.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 15, 2008 19:26:42 GMT -5
I totally agree with Heyman's view on TNA and it's "branding" problems, 'nough said.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 15, 2008 19:28:11 GMT -5
If we had the same AJ Styles from 2004-2005 today, feuding with these heels and ESPECIALLY against Team 3D due to the fact that AJ's main job was to protect the X-Division, then TNA would have their "TNA guy." AJ Styles was TNA for the longest time, until he turned heel and eventually, became Christian's lackey. And now Kurt's.   |
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Post by B'Cup x on Feb 15, 2008 20:02:20 GMT -5
I agree to an extent, but no TNA guys? when i think of AJ Styles, black machismo jay lethal and the MCMGs i think TNA.
I also see these guys being the stars of the future, and with a bit more of a push i see Roode and Storm joining them
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Post by Corporate H on Feb 15, 2008 20:14:01 GMT -5
This is the main thing wrong with TNA, that and it's general booking.
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