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Post by wildojinx on Jul 4, 2008 12:42:27 GMT -5
Am i the only one who thinks austins heel turn at WMX7 needed to happen. I mean, if he had remained face, who could he have feuded with? He already had a feud with hhh after all, so a redux of that would have been boring, and outside of a feud with angle, there were no other heels at the time who were at the same level of austin. With the heel turn he was able to have matches against people he never would have wrestled earlier, like jericho, benoit, the hardyz, even spike dudley. They probably could have turned him face again for the invasion angle, but then again we wouldnt have gotten the classic match at summerslam 01.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 4, 2008 15:19:08 GMT -5
Necessary? I think it was more than necessary. I think it was BRILLIANT. I think the turn and the subsequent character change were second only to Hogan's turn on the genius scale. Second greatest heel turn in history.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jul 4, 2008 15:30:48 GMT -5
It didn't really work though, did it? Didn't everyone just cheer him anyway?
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 4, 2008 15:34:19 GMT -5
My issue with the turn is how they made him a giant pussy later during the Invasion.
Well, that and the logic behind him teaming with HHH....a guy who basically tried to kill him.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Jul 4, 2008 15:35:37 GMT -5
I saw it coming after the SmackDown promo with The Rock where he said he'd do anything to beat him for the belt. The match told a great story and the turn was the perfect ending.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 4, 2008 15:44:14 GMT -5
Turning Austin heel, great idea.
Turning Austin heel in Houston, TX a short distance from his hometown at his big return to WM, horrible idea.
Personally I would have left it more open at the end of WM, make it look like McMahon didn't mean to help Austin, the next night on Raw have McMahon call Austin out and declare him his personal choice for champion. Austin comes out, and then instead of the obvious Stunner to McMahon, Austin joins up with him. I think that woulda worked better
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jul 4, 2008 15:55:54 GMT -5
The heel turn on paper looked to be great, but then add in that it made Austin's character more of a whiny bitch and how he had a face response to everything, then it turned out to be a bust.
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Post by Jack on Jul 5, 2008 5:14:08 GMT -5
No not at all. When you have the number one face in the company and you're doing great ratings and you just come off a WM that broke all kinds of ppv records, I don't see the logic in turning the main reason for that, heel.
It was sheer ego and sheer arrogance on Austin's part who probably requested a character change and likely saw Hogan's heel turn five years before as something he wanted to over-take. People compare it to the Hogan heel turn but the Hogan heel turn took a character who many people were sick of seeing after ten years and turned it into a character everyone wanted to tune in to see again.
Austin's heel turn a character that everyone did want to see and turned it into one that most people didn't. Ratings nosedived, buyrates leveled off and fell and Austin soon became something of a comedy background character.
I don't see how anyone can define Austin's heel turn as anything other than a complete and utter f***-up. The argument that he needed to turn heel to feud with people is bogus, you don't risk your biggest asset just because you cant be bothered to think of new feuds.
Hogan didn't turn heel in 1988 because Vince thought "i cant think of who to feud with with....turn heel, see how that works" do to so would have been an absolute disaster. It's the same with Austin.
Ever since W17 Ausitn's involvement and importance and relevance to the wrestling world is not a fraction of what it was before.
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