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Post by ddt on Jul 23, 2008 10:24:30 GMT -5
Whether it's wuss rock, hard rock, heavy metal or thrash metal, at least they all have passion (and power of one form or another). Not like certain other types of "music" that are so popular these days.....
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 23, 2008 10:50:51 GMT -5
Whether it's wuss rock, hard rock, heavy metal or thrash metal, at least they all have passion (and power of one form or another). Not like certain other types of "music" that are so popular these days..... Uh, that's the kind of elitist thinking I was trying to counter with this thread. There is power and passion in hip-hop, R&B, pop (yes, pop), country, swing jazz, polka, techno, any other kind of genre that you could come up with. I'm not going to give you examples, because taste is subjective and you can't determine what the musician/singer/artist's motives are through just one listen. |
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Jul 23, 2008 10:50:55 GMT -5
*incoherent rant alert* I don't have a problem with 'soft rock' like I call it. My problem with the rock scene at the moment is that all these bands coming out today seem to have the same f-ing hair cuts, wear girl trousers. have songs with ridiculous titles and sing about how we're gonna escape from the horrors of high school or college.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VdYqd6CdA&feature=relatedJust an example and there are a hundred bands like this. I wouldn't have a problem cept they all label themselves as rock when they're just a boy band with guitars. Why do these songs get played on Kerrang?! This stuff should be on Smash Hits for f*** sake. I have long hair, I listen to metal, when I open a 'metal' magazine I shouldn't be faced with this.  Ok rant over, kinda got off of topic but yea I have no problem with softer songs but don't call it rock, it's freaking pop. |
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Post by ddt on Jul 23, 2008 10:59:59 GMT -5
Whether it's wuss rock, hard rock, heavy metal or thrash metal, at least they all have passion (and power of one form or another). Not like certain other types of "music" that are so popular these days..... Uh, that's the kind of elitist thinking I was trying to counter with this thread. There is power and passion in hip-hop, R&B, pop (yes, pop), country, swing jazz, polka, techno, any other kind of genre that you could come up with. I'm not going to give you examples, because taste is subjective and you can't determine what the musician/singer/artist's motives are through just one listen. It's not elitist, it's an opinion. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 23, 2008 11:15:54 GMT -5
*incoherent rant alert* I don't have a problem with 'soft rock' like I call it. My problem with the rock scene at the moment is that all these bands coming out today seem to have the same f-ing hair cuts, wear girl trousers. have songs with ridiculous titles and sing about how we're gonna escape from the horrors of high school or college. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VdYqd6CdA&feature=relatedJust an example and there are a hundred bands like this. I wouldn't have a problem cept they all label themselves as rock when they're just a boy band with guitars. Why do these songs get played on Kerrang?! This stuff should be on Smash Hits for smurf sake. I have long hair, I listen to metal, when I open a 'metal' magazine I shouldn't be faced with this. Ok rant over, kinda got off of topic but yea I have no problem with softer songs but don't call it rock, it's freaking pop. that's why you should read Metal Maniacs. it's a metal magazine that talks 100% metal 100% of the time and never has anything questionable in its metalness in it. heck, there was a writers revolt that got the EIC fired for including Slipknot in one issue. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 23, 2008 11:23:37 GMT -5
*incoherent rant alert* I don't have a problem with 'soft rock' like I call it. My problem with the rock scene at the moment is that all these bands coming out today seem to have the same f-ing hair cuts, wear girl trousers. have songs with ridiculous titles and sing about how we're gonna escape from the horrors of high school or college. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VdYqd6CdA&feature=relatedJust an example and there are a hundred bands like this. I wouldn't have a problem cept they all label themselves as rock when they're just a boy band with guitars. Why do these songs get played on Kerrang?! This stuff should be on Smash Hits for smurf sake. I have long hair, I listen to metal, when I open a 'metal' magazine I shouldn't be faced with this. Ok rant over, kinda got off of topic but yea I have no problem with softer songs but don't call it rock, it's freaking pop. that's why you should read Metal Maniacs. it's a metal magazine that talks 100% metal 100% of the time and never has anything questionable in its metalness in it. heck, there was a writers revolt that got the EIC fired for including Slipknot in one issue. I...wha? Isn't Slipknot a metal band? |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 23, 2008 11:32:52 GMT -5
/\ to most hardocre metalheads, no, they're not. not really something that I myself care about one way or the other, but a lot of metalheads have a tendency to get their panties in a bunch over genre classifications. this is especially true when bands they percieve as being weak or boring get labeled in the mainstream media as something that they apparently like. I myself throw a crapfit when people assume I listen to Ditsurbed or Linkin Park because I'm a metalhead. being that those bands suck out loud and the people that usually listen to them are wangsty 14 year olds, this isn't so unreasonable. however, Slipknot is more of a grey area that most people won't touch in the "is it metal?" debate.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 23, 2008 11:38:45 GMT -5
/\ to most hardocre metalheads, no, they're not. not really something that I myself care about one way or the other, but a lot of metalheads have a tendency to get their panties in a bunch over genre classifications, especially when bands they percieve as being weak or boring get labeled in the mainstream media as something that they apparently like. I myself throw a crapfit when people assume I listen to Ditsurbed or Linkin Park because I'm a metalhead. being that those badsn suck out loud and the people that usually listen to them are wangsty 14 year olds, this isn't so unreasonable. however, Slipknot is more of a grey area that most people won't touch in the "is it metal?" debate. Well, the thing is that I'm (in the end, though I like all kinds of music) a Motown/old school R&B mark, so to me Slipknot is going to sound brutal. Though I can see that Linkin Park isn't really metal. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 23, 2008 11:40:37 GMT -5
well, see, i think the problem with Slipknot is while I don't see how they're NOT metal, they tend to get lumped in with the nu-metal movement bands, the rest of whom were definitely not. I think that that's what their problem is. if they had came out 3 or 4 years earlier or later, it wouldn't have happened to them.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jul 23, 2008 11:41:11 GMT -5
Yeah...I'm not sure WHERE I'd classify Slipknot these days. I used to call them nu-metal, but their latest work is not as nu-metal...they've lost a lot of the hip hop influence...so yeah. They're pretty tough to classify really.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jul 23, 2008 18:05:38 GMT -5
/\ to most hardocre metalheads, no, they're not. not really something that I myself care about one way or the other, but a lot of metalheads have a tendency to get their panties in a bunch over genre classifications, especially when bands they percieve as being weak or boring get labeled in the mainstream media as something that they apparently like. I myself throw a crapfit when people assume I listen to Ditsurbed or Linkin Park because I'm a metalhead. being that those badsn suck out loud and the people that usually listen to them are wangsty 14 year olds, this isn't so unreasonable. however, Slipknot is more of a grey area that most people won't touch in the "is it metal?" debate. Well, the thing is that I'm (in the end, though I like all kinds of music) a Motown/old school R&B mark, so to me Slipknot is going to sound brutal. Though I can see that Linkin Park isn't really metal. Totally understandable. |
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Post by demolitionfan on Jul 23, 2008 18:09:50 GMT -5
well, see, i think the problem with Slipknot is while I don't see how they're NOT metal, they tend to get lumped in with the nu-metal movement bands, the rest of whom were definitely not. I think that that's what their problem is. if they had came out 3 or 4 years earlier or later, it wouldn't have happened to them. They cried about Burger King's chicken suited band stealing their gimmick.That seems very NON-metal to me. |
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jul 23, 2008 18:12:39 GMT -5
well, see, i think the problem with Slipknot is while I don't see how they're NOT metal, they tend to get lumped in with the nu-metal movement bands, the rest of whom were definitely not. I think that that's what their problem is. if they had came out 3 or 4 years earlier or later, it wouldn't have happened to them. They cried about Burger King's chicken suited band stealing their gimmick.That seems very NON-metal to me. Yeah that was definitely some serious douche-baggery... |
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Post by pks on Jul 23, 2008 18:25:35 GMT -5
well, see, i think the problem with Slipknot is while I don't see how they're NOT metal, they tend to get lumped in with the nu-metal movement bands, the rest of whom were definitely not. I think that that's what their problem is. if they had came out 3 or 4 years earlier or later, it wouldn't have happened to them. They cried about Burger King's chicken suited band stealing their gimmick.That seems very NON-metal to me. Metal bands acting non-metal? That happens a lot. |
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Post by Will Has 'Til Five, Ref on Jul 23, 2008 20:14:14 GMT -5
well, see, i think the problem with Slipknot is while I don't see how they're NOT metal, they tend to get lumped in with the nu-metal movement bands, the rest of whom were definitely not. I think that that's what their problem is. if they had came out 3 or 4 years earlier or later, it wouldn't have happened to them. They cried about Burger King's chicken suited band stealing their gimmick.That seems very NON-metal to me. Ironic since Slipknot got their look from Mr. Bungle and GWAR. |
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jul 23, 2008 20:23:32 GMT -5
And the "masks" look really isn't all that original anyway.
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Post by demolitionfan on Jul 23, 2008 22:04:50 GMT -5
They cried about Burger King's chicken suited band stealing their gimmick.That seems very NON-metal to me. Ironic since Slipknot got their look from Mr. Bungle and GWAR. And yet I got tore apart when I said that very thing on a previous post.Well I just said GWAR but still. |
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Post by pks on Jul 23, 2008 22:26:45 GMT -5
Ironic since Slipknot got their look from Mr. Bungle and GWAR. And yet I got tore apart when I said that very thing on a previous post.Well I just said GWAR but still. I'd be offended too. How dare you even mention Slipknot in the same sentence with the godly GWAR. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 23, 2008 22:48:45 GMT -5
*incoherent rant alert* I don't have a problem with 'soft rock' like I call it. My problem with the rock scene at the moment is that all these bands coming out today seem to have the same f-ing hair cuts, wear girl trousers. have songs with ridiculous titles and sing about how we're gonna escape from the horrors of high school or college. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VdYqd6CdA&feature=relatedJust an example and there are a hundred bands like this. I wouldn't have a problem cept they all label themselves as rock when they're just a boy band with guitars. Why do these songs get played on Kerrang?! This stuff should be on Smash Hits for smurf sake. I have long hair, I listen to metal, when I open a 'metal' magazine I shouldn't be faced with this. Ok rant over, kinda got off of topic but yea I have no problem with softer songs but don't call it rock, it's freaking pop. that's why you should read Metal Maniacs. it's a metal magazine that talks 100% metal 100% of the time and never has anything questionable in its metalness in it. heck, there was a writers revolt that got the EIC fired for including Slipknot in one issue. At least they are metal magazines. You never see prog rock magazines. |
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