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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Aug 12, 2008 9:30:13 GMT -5
Many current TNA guys were formerly with the WWE, where they had to contend with the safe style of wrestling. Now that they are in TNA and aren't required to follow it do you feel it has improved the quality of their matches?
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 12, 2008 9:36:47 GMT -5
No, because I've seen amazing matches worked with in the alleged "safe style" meaning that regardless, good matches can happen within any rules/regulations. Some guys can adapt, some can't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 9:40:41 GMT -5
I don't think its improved matches/performers.
To be honest I could do without all the crazy spots in TNA. They are cool, don't get me wrong, but most of the time I just prefer better work rate and less time rolling around on the floor. I understand match dynamics, but TNA's style is much better suited for me.
Williams v. Creed at Hard Justice is an example of what I'm talking about. They could have skipped Creed's plancha (ouch to the back of the head!) and it still would have been a great match.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Aug 12, 2008 10:36:43 GMT -5
Isn't it ironic that WWE uses a "safe style" but continues to have more injuries than TNA (Kennedy, Orton, etc)?
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Post by Square on Aug 12, 2008 12:30:23 GMT -5
Isn't it ironic that WWE uses a "safe style" but continues to have more injuries than TNA (Kennedy, Orton, etc)? But WWE run more shows, meaning more posabilities to be injured |
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Post by KLRA on Aug 12, 2008 12:48:22 GMT -5
The guys that have mainly jumped worked a ''safe style" anyways.
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Post by ddt on Aug 12, 2008 12:55:00 GMT -5
I don't think its improved matches/performers. To be honest I could do without all the crazy spots in TNA. They are cool, don't get me wrong, but most of the time I just prefer better work rate and less time rolling around on the floor. I understand match dynamics, but TNA's style is much better suited for me. Williams v. Creed at Hard Justice is an example of what I'm talking about. They could have skipped Creed's plancha (ouch to the back of the head!) and it still would have been a great match. Interesting topic, by the way. Agreed. In addition, I think the high/crazy spots just beget even higher and crazier spots, and so on and so on, because the promoters/companies have to keep topping what they've already done. High spots that keep getting crazier increase the risk for all kinds of injuries; a safe style focuses more on keeping the audience's interest with a good story rather than keeping the audience's interest with crazy stunts. |
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Post by The Verdict on Aug 12, 2008 15:17:29 GMT -5
Isn't it ironic that WWE uses a "safe style" but continues to have more injuries than TNA (Kennedy, Orton, etc)? But WWE run more shows, meaning more posabilities to be injured owned |
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Post by Blindkarevik on Aug 12, 2008 20:04:23 GMT -5
I don't think it's really improved people, as most have worked it for so long.. they don't realize they can "un-work" that style.
When Christian first came to TNA, he mostly punched and kicked for months as that's all he was really allowed to do in the WWE aside from the Unprettier. After a while, he started to loosen up and try new things... he's not much different than he was when he came in, but he definitely seemed to relax after a while.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Aug 12, 2008 20:10:26 GMT -5
Honestly though, TNA's style isn't that much more dangerous than WWE's. Yes they do occasional piledrivers and some guys have their suicidal lucha dives which will occasionally get pulled off. But by and large, the guys seem to be pretty protected in their spots.
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Post by Age of Danger on Aug 12, 2008 20:52:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it improves them or not. Daivari didn't seem any different during the X Cup, I didn't really see anything special from him at all during that period. I was actually intrigued by the whole thing, I figured WWE may have limited his move set and now that he was in TNA, we'd see some great high flying stuff from him.
And nothing, lol. It may be a little early to tell, but judging by the X Cup, I don't think the TNA style improves a former WWE wrestler at all.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 12, 2008 21:04:02 GMT -5
TNA is more relax in the safety department but most guys that wrestled in WWE haven't changed much in doing more riskier things. Do they allow Piledrivers yes. But if you know how to do the move right your not going to get hurt. The WWE doesn't allow it because they run more dates some say.
But really how many people got hurt by the move went done right. Austin got hurt because Owen didn't apply the move right which in any move if done wrong. Someone will get hurt.
The Undertaker on the other hand. Has done a Piledriver move for years and nobody been hurt from him. Because he does it right and protects the person he doing it too.
Over all no nobody really improved. Kevin Nash is still the same Kevin Nash we always seem. Booker T is the same Booker we always have seem. Angle outside the one move he did with Sting, more the same guy. Christian was good in the WWE and still is in the TNA. All TNA has done is allow him to show that he can be a MEer.
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Post by skiller on Aug 13, 2008 0:25:30 GMT -5
I don't think it automatically makes them better.
But it would certainly help them flesh matches out beyond limitations placed on them elsewhere. So it does help them a little.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Aug 13, 2008 1:35:15 GMT -5
I hate this stupid safe-style theory that some genius on the internet came up with. Shawn Michaels and Jeff Hardy have been working the "spotfest" style for years and neither of them have been injured as bad as most big guys in WWE. Face it there are some guys who can do high impact moves and some guys that can't and they are the ones that get injured. I believe no one currently in the X-Division is at any risk of getting hurt becasue they all seem to know their limits. Now guys like Amazing Red who is no longer with TNA because of leg injuries and such is a different story and he is an example for someone who couldn't handle those kinds of moves.(I think he just did them because for a guy his size that is the only way he got over.)
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