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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 18, 2008 22:36:34 GMT -5
I think the idea for the match is stupid, but come on now. Its a wrestling title, not an Olympic Gold Medal. No offense to everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 22:41:28 GMT -5
I like the idea as long as they don't go with the idea that every title change will be official (in other words, recorded as a real title reign). As long as the only official change is at the END of the 20 minutes, I'm cool with it.
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Post by boolz on Aug 18, 2008 22:43:04 GMT -5
I think the idea is stupid, and TNA'ish. Like the Jericho punching HBK's wife.
But I think the worse part is if they have more than one pinfall it makes everyone look weak, because don't most single fall ppv title matches take at least 18 minutes? Now JBL will be pinned after like 4, Kane right behind him, Cena or Batista might make it to 12, CM Punk might not be pinned but wont get a pin fall until 19:56 on Kane after a Batista Bomb and during a Batista Cena exchange. I think the whole thing is stupid, and more 'careful' booking to leave the belt on Punk, but not give him a decent win.
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Post by Robbymac on Aug 18, 2008 22:46:05 GMT -5
They should stick HHH in the match for the hell of it so he can just get to 16 now and get it over with. Either that or let Cena pick up 13 falls during the match.
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Post by Kyle on Aug 18, 2008 22:46:25 GMT -5
I love the internet. Everyone complains when they make the same matches for every PPV, then when something different comes up... its suddenly devaluing to the title.
How? Its professional wrestling. Freaking YESTERDAY The Undertaker power-bomed Edge through the ring and fire for some reason shot up. That's not devaluing the title or the sport at all... but a match where the title will change hands multiple times in a 20 minute span and the one holding it at the end is declared winner somehow IS?
As far as we know it'll only come down to ONE fall at the very end of the 20 minutes. Before you guys jump all over it for being 'OMG@!!1 GOOKER WINNER MATCHUP!" we should at least wait and watch the damn match.
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Post by Robbymac on Aug 18, 2008 22:47:14 GMT -5
I love the internet. Everyone complains when they make the same matches for every PPV, then when something different comes up... its suddenly devaluing to the title. How? Its professional wrestling. Freaking YESTERDAY The Undertaker power-bomed Edge through the ring and fire for some reason shot up. That's not devaluing the title or the sport at all... but a match where the title will change hands multiple times in a 20 minute span and the one holding it at the end is declared winner somehow IS? As far as we know it'll only come down to ONE fall at the very end of the 20 minutes. Before you guys jump all over it for being 'OMG@!!1 GOOKER WINNER MATCHUP!" we should at least wait and watch the damn match. ~Kyle Leave it to a fellow Iowan to be the voice of reason.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 18, 2008 22:49:50 GMT -5
NOTHING devalues a title more than having three "World" Champions in the same company. NOTHING.
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Post by Kyle on Aug 18, 2008 22:51:55 GMT -5
I love the internet. Everyone complains when they make the same matches for every PPV, then when something different comes up... its suddenly devaluing to the title. How? Its professional wrestling. Freaking YESTERDAY The Undertaker power-bomed Edge through the ring and fire for some reason shot up. That's not devaluing the title or the sport at all... but a match where the title will change hands multiple times in a 20 minute span and the one holding it at the end is declared winner somehow IS? As far as we know it'll only come down to ONE fall at the very end of the 20 minutes. Before you guys jump all over it for being 'OMG@!!1 GOOKER WINNER MATCHUP!" we should at least wait and watch the damn match. ~Kyle Leave it to a fellow Iowan to be the voice of reason. How did that old Sean O'Haire saying go: I'm not telling you anything you don't already know~Kyle
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Post by mo on Aug 18, 2008 22:52:46 GMT -5
NOTHING devalues a title more than having three "World" Champions in the same company. NOTHING. I dunno, I think if I was a wrestler and won the WWE Title, I think the last thing on my mind would be "Bah there's a World Heavyweight Title too, I don't care!"
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 18, 2008 22:55:01 GMT -5
NOTHING devalues a title more than having three "World" Champions in the same company. NOTHING. I dunno, I think if I was a wrestler and won the WWE Title, I think the last thing on my mind would be "Bah there's a World Heavyweight Title too, I don't care!" "Woo hoo! I'm 1/3 World Champion!"
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Post by mo on Aug 18, 2008 23:00:00 GMT -5
I dunno, I think if I was a wrestler and won the WWE Title, I think the last thing on my mind would be "Bah there's a World Heavyweight Title too, I don't care!" "Woo hoo! I'm 1/3 World Champion!" I'm one of those who only considers two World Titles, either way I'd say it would still be the top accomplishment, it's not like both shows are fighting over them at once.
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Post by Robbymac on Aug 18, 2008 23:04:23 GMT -5
"Woo hoo! I'm 1/3 World Champion!" I'm one of those who only considers two World Titles, either way I'd say it would still be the top accomplishment, it's not like both shows are fighting over them at once. Yes there are NOT 3 World Titles in the WWE. Have you ever seen a World Title match end in a 30 second DQ on a major PPV and not cause a riot by the live audience?
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Post by MGH on Aug 18, 2008 23:06:04 GMT -5
I don't mind the match, I do wonder how some of these people got in to it though. JBL lost both his title matches to Punk clean in the middle, Kane has done .... nothing at all of note in the ring, and Cena just lost to Batista.
Batista being in there makes sense. I actually thought he should be #1 contender. Jericho "ended Shawn Michael's career", so I could see the argument there. Don't get the others though.
Now that I'm done being extra picky, this could end up being a fun match. I guarantee it'll have an edge of your seat ending.
I suspect this is their way of putting Punk over 2 of their biggest stars without actually having to do it. He'll probably get it back off of JBL in the final seconds.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Aug 18, 2008 23:08:50 GMT -5
i love the wwe can do no wrong mentality thinking with the base logic being (well its all fake, so why get mad) well for one as fake as whatever you atribute fake to is, its costing people money to see, very real money, the way i see it is, if your going to charge people to witness a match for a title belt(as fictious as it may or may not be) then have the decency to give them the whole 50$ worth(49.95 i know) and not some 5 dollar idea borrowed from CHIKARA.
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Post by Jeff on Aug 18, 2008 23:10:09 GMT -5
Guys wrestling is fake. I can wrap toilet paper around my waste and claim it the world title of wrestling and it would have the same validity. I will challenge you for this title good sir. Come this Sunday... you know the rest. You wanna fight? Its on
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 18, 2008 23:12:05 GMT -5
Yes there are NOT 3 World Titles in the WWE. Have you ever seen a World Title match end in a 30 second DQ on a major PPV and not cause a riot by the live audience? Why not? We've seen world title matches end in squashes and fingerpokes, a 30 second DQ doesn't seem that unreasonable.
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Post by Robbymac on Aug 18, 2008 23:13:55 GMT -5
Yes there are NOT 3 World Titles in the WWE. Have you ever seen a World Title match end in a 30 second DQ on a major PPV and not cause a riot by the live audience? Why not? We've seen world title matches end in squashes and fingerpokes, a 30 second DQ doesn't seem that unreasonable. On Pay Per View?
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Post by tombstoned on Aug 18, 2008 23:13:58 GMT -5
It's idiotic. Every pinfall and submission in that 20-minute time limit is a title change. I know titles are props, but do they really need to make it THIS obvious? Not according to the description Adamle gave of the match. It sounded like it will be CM Punk going in as the champion and the person who scored the final pinfall or submission as the winner and possible new champion. So all the pinfalls and submissions in the match other than the final one won't matter. Those are the only two people that will be listed on WWE.com in the World Title lineage....which started with Triple H being handed the title.
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Post by C.B Jones on Aug 18, 2008 23:14:41 GMT -5
i blah'd at the idea of this match. Crash Holly must be rolling in his grave.
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Post by Robbymac on Aug 18, 2008 23:16:00 GMT -5
It's idiotic. Every pinfall and submission in that 20-minute time limit is a title change. I know titles are props, but do they really need to make it THIS obvious? Not according to the description Adamle gave of the match. It sounded like it will be CM Punk going in as the champion and the person who scored the final pinfall or submission as the winner and possible new champion. So all the pinfalls and submissions in the match other than the final one won't matter. Those are the only two people that will be listed on WWE.com in the World Title lineage....which started with Triple H being handed the title. They very clearly stated that every time a fall occured the title will change hands.
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