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Post by Snitsky on Oct 27, 2008 14:17:16 GMT -5
ok
is it me or was evan bourne suppose to win the ECW belt but the ending was changed last minute?
why would evan go for a shooting star press which we all know is his finisher only for hardy to roll out of the way- it really didnt make any sense
thoughts?
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 27, 2008 14:19:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you're saying here. People roll out of the way when Jeff Hardy goes for the Swanton, and people try to avoid other finishers, too, so I don't really get why this would mean it was changed.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 27, 2008 14:19:43 GMT -5
Nah, always seemed as though Hardy was going to retain, whoever his opponent was. I knew Hardy would block the SSP.
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Post by Snitsky on Oct 27, 2008 14:21:26 GMT -5
maybe so but it just seemed rather odd- the whole build up to the ending -i cant explain it
coupled with the fact that matt went on blog telling folks to vote from evan but cuts a promo saying he wants mark henry
the shooting star press is a rather risky move thats why it was banned so why would he go to do it if he wasnt able to execute it properly- i dont know what i am saying but i just found that match odd
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Post by Vince's Torn Quads on Oct 27, 2008 14:22:30 GMT -5
Standard finisher evasion really. May have seemed a little odd because no-one has rolled away from Bourne's SSP before (as far as I can recall!)
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Post by Snitsky on Oct 27, 2008 14:24:15 GMT -5
Standard finisher evasion really. May have seemed a little odd because no-one has rolled away from Bourne's SSP before (as far as I can recall!) so all these weeks in trying to build up evan they have just made his finsh look weak in order to make matt"emo"hardy look good? |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 27, 2008 14:26:20 GMT -5
Standard finisher evasion really. May have seemed a little odd because no-one has rolled away from Bourne's SSP before (as far as I can recall!) so all these weeks in trying to build up evan they have just made his finsh look weak in order to make matt"emo"hardy look good? ...no. He's not emo, for starters, and secondly, why would they give the belt to a relative newcomer, when Matt Hardy is ridiculously popular and had been after a world title match for more than a year. Evan Bourne, on the other hand, got like his first title match last night. It'd be stupid for put the belt on him last night, even Brock didn't get the belt that fast. |
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Post by THE Dinobot on Oct 27, 2008 14:27:07 GMT -5
He wasn't going to win the title on the first occasion without any build.
Matt can say whatever he wants on his blog, for the most part, e was trying to get the people to vote for what would have been the better overall match, but on TV had to push for Mark since that's the storyline thing to do.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Oct 27, 2008 14:27:24 GMT -5
In no way did Bourne look "weak" in that match. Grisham and Striker even expressed their surprise that Evan missed the SSP, as it is the first time its ever happened. If you ask me, Hardy made Bourne look better than he did before, in as much as we now know he can take the champion - with 10 years more WWE experience - to the limit.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 27, 2008 14:27:44 GMT -5
Standard finisher evasion really. May have seemed a little odd because no-one has rolled away from Bourne's SSP before (as far as I can recall!) so all these weeks in trying to build up evan they have just made his finsh look weak in order to make matt"emo"hardy look good? No, it made both guys look stronger. It made Bourne look fantastic for being able to basically push the WAY more experienced champ to his limit, and it made Hardy look great for being able to take down the young upstart in a clean match. Should be great to see if something develops from this match. Also, for the record, Matt's not "emo". |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Oct 27, 2008 14:29:54 GMT -5
yeah it really just sounds like youre a bourne mark and a hardy hater
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Post by robferatu on Oct 27, 2008 14:40:07 GMT -5
I thought it was a great match.
Matt Hardy rolling out of the way of the SSP was just Hardy's character having enough awareness to know that if Bourne hit that move it would be over. So, in no way does it make the move look weak. If anything, it kind of makes it look more threatening.
Now, if Bourne would have hit the move with Hardy kicking out of it. That would have made it look weak.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 27, 2008 14:41:48 GMT -5
I thought it was a great match. Matt Hardy rolling out of the way of the SSP was just Hardy's character having enough awareness to know that if Bourne hit that move it would be over. So, in no way does it make the move look weak. If anything, it kind of makes it look more threatening. Now, if Bourne would have hit the move with Hardy kicking out of it. That would have made it look weak. Pretty much. I love the way they've built up Bourne and the SSP as a "it hits and you're done" move. |
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Oct 27, 2008 14:44:37 GMT -5
The SSP is about as intimidating as Michelle McCool's heel lock finisher.
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Post by Snitsky on Oct 27, 2008 14:52:43 GMT -5
so all these weeks in trying to build up evan they have just made his finsh look weak in order to make matt"emo"hardy look good? Also, for the record, Matt's not "emo". he may not have the outward attributes of an emo but im pretty sure that he is..i guess im not a fan of him and his girly like whining...but thats beside the point thanks for the responses- i may need to watch this match again, IMO evan was def the man of the night |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Oct 27, 2008 15:01:48 GMT -5
So even more props to hardy for putting mr flipedy flops over then dude
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Post by Vince's Torn Quads on Oct 27, 2008 15:06:49 GMT -5
Standard finisher evasion really. May have seemed a little odd because no-one has rolled away from Bourne's SSP before (as far as I can recall!) so all these weeks in trying to build up evan they have just made his finsh look weak in order to make matt"emo"hardy look good? They've done a good job of building Bourne up I think - he has done a good job himself too, by putting in some very good showings. In fact I thought to myself last night that he has made fantastic progress, considering it wasn't that long ago that he debuted on ECW as Matt Sydal and jobbed to... Shelton, I think. It's great that he put in a good match at a PPV - can only do him good as far as his position in the company goes. I don't think his finisher was made to look weak at all. If it had connected and Hardy had kicked out and not really sold it, then yes. But he just rolled away, which I've seen happen with Jeff and the Swanton on several occasions. As for the emo thing, you've got the wrong brother there imo  |
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Post by Peeetah on Oct 27, 2008 15:08:14 GMT -5
You're silly.
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Post by Snitsky on Oct 27, 2008 15:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2008 16:22:29 GMT -5
People have been rolling out of the way of top rope finishers for as long as I've been watching wrestling...
At any rate, Bourne is better off now than he was before the match.
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