rebook InVasion

[nealo]

rebook it as if the full WCW roster (eg including Sting, Flair, Hogan, Nash, Goldberg etc.) and no ECW. I have nothing agianst ECW but the whole point of invasion was WCW vs WWF.

[derrtaysouth95]

I'm not going to lie....when I saw this thread title at first I swear it said "reebok InVasion."

which then made me think of Allen Iverson when he was still really good lol.

we've had an awful lot of 'redo the Invasion' threads around here lately. at least they provide valid arguements.

In my opinion, the WWE did about the best they could have with the talent they had available. Sure they could have shelled out the big bucks to get the big namers from WCW but we got most of them later on anyway (Steiner, Hall, Nash, Hogan, Goldberg, ect.).

[Perpetual Nirvana]

Oct 22, 2008 12:14:17 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Sure they could have shelled out the big bucks to get the big namers from WCW

Not really. You think someone like Nash is gonna accept a buyout for his contract when he can get paid to sit at home doing nothing? I'm sure a lot of them felt the same way (Flair signed only days after his Time-Warner contract expired), especially after the guys who did accept the buyout, like DDP, were booked into oblivion.

The only real notable player in the final days of WCW who wasn't eventually offered a deal was Jeff Jarrett which led to him starting his own company.

[derrtaysouth95]

Oct 22, 2008 12:33:34 GMT -5 Perpetual Nirvana said:

Oct 22, 2008 12:14:17 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Sure they could have shelled out the big bucks to get the big namers from WCW

Not really. You think someone like Nash is gonna accept a buyout for his contract when he can get paid to sit at home doing nothing? I'm sure a lot of them felt the same way (Flair signed only days after his Time-Warner contract expired), especially after the guys who did accept the buyout, like DDP, were booked into oblivion.

The only real notable player in the final days of WCW who wasn't eventually offered a deal was Jeff Jarrett which led to him starting his own company.

That's because Jeff Jarrett isn't worthy of much more than midcard status so he started his own company so he could book himself to be at the top. Remember, in WCW's closing days he had friends high up in the company.

and about them not accepting a buyout....if offered the right amount of money, I promise you they'd do it. Money has some serious power over people.

[nealo]

well i think people have misunderstood the concept of this thread

ok ill get the ball rollin:

Booker T vs The Rock

Goldberg vs Stone Cold

Sting vs Undertaker

Nash/Hall vs Edge and Christian

[The Possum]

The Rock vs. "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan

Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Bill Goldberg

The Undertaker vs. Sting

Booker T and Scott Steiner vs. Triple H and Chris Jericho

Kurt Angle vs. Ric Flair

Elimination Match:
Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Diamond Dallas Page, and Buff Bagwell vs. Kane, Big Show, Edge and Christian

Vince McMahon vs. Eric Bischoff

Hardy Boyz vs. 3 Count

Dudley Boyz vs. Lex Luger and Shane Douglas

[bobolebowski]

First I would have had WWF stay on Monday Night Raw, and have WCW take over Smackdown and turn it into Nitro or something. Just to establish WCW as its own brand.

After months of each show running on its own angles, finally around the Royal Rumble brands start "Invading" the other show. Which culminates in the actual InVasion PPV being at Wrestlemania X-8.....Wrestlemania X-8: The InVasion.

Now as far as the actual PPV goes.

Main Event: Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Bill Goldberg
Winner: Steve Austin, WWF wins, and the PPV goes to black with all the WWF wrestlers celebrating in the ring with confetti coming down, pyro the whole bit.

The Rock with Vince McMahon in his corner vs Hulk Hogan with Eric Bischoff in his corner
Winner: Hulk Hogan (5-5)

Triple H vs Ric Flair
Winner: Triple H (.....I mean Come on.....Wrestlemania Trips is going over).....(5-4, WWF)

Edge and Christian vs The Outsiders
Winners: The Outsiders, also teases the break up of Edge and Christian (4-4)

The Undertaker vs Diamond Dallas Page
Winner: The Undertaker, stays undefeated and puts WWF up by 1 (4-3, WWF)

Chris Jericho vs Lance Storm
Winner: Chris Jericho (3-3)

Kurt Angle vs Booker T
Winner: Kurt Angle (3-2, WCW)

Ten Man Elimination Tag Match: Kane, The Big Show, Faarooq, Bradshaw, and Rhyno vs Scott Steiner, Sean O'Haire, Chuck Palumbo, Buff Bagwell, and Mike Awesome
Winners: Steiner, O'Haire, Palumbo, Bagwell, and Awesome (3-1, WCW)

The Dudley Boyz vs Kronik
Winners: The Dudley Boyz (2-1, WCW)

Crusierweight Title: Tajiri vs Billy Kidman
Winner: Billy Kidman (2-0, WCW)

Sunday Night Heat: Billy Gunn, K-Kwik, and Scotty 2 Hotty vs Kaynon, Chavo Guerrero Jr., and Hugh Morrus

Winners: Kanyon, Chavo Guerrero Jr., and Hugh Morris (to set the tone and add credibility to Team WCW) (1-0, WCW)

[Mr Captain Falcon]

WCW wins.

[Johnny Flamingo]

Honestly, I think ECW needed to be in the inVasion.

I'd have started it off the exact way, same members. Have the original ECW invasion play out the same way (minus Steph getting control, let Heyman stay the boss)

I'd have kept Raw as only announced WWF matches with WCW and ECW wrestlers occasionally running in and destroying a main event (not every show).

Have Vince get really pissed and finally challenging WCW/ECW to a match at Survivor Series. If Raw wins, ECW/WCW is dead, if WCW/ECW wins then they get free reign over Monday Nights.

WWF's team of Austin, Rock, Jericho, Taker and HHH vs WCW/ECW team of Booker T, DDP, Raven, Rhino and Mike Awesome.

Have HHH and Austin left in the ring with DDP. Austin and HHH, instead of making the easy pin, are simply showing off and beating up DDP for fun. Austin hits the stunner and gets on top of DDP and starts his flipping off taunting thing. HHH is posing to the crowd. AS HHH turns, Goldberg comes into the ring and spears HHH. Austin turns and gets a spear and jackhammer by Goldberg, who leaves the ring right after.

DDP stretches his arm over the shoulder of Austin and gets the 1-2-3, leaving him and HHH as the lone survivors.

HHH, coming through after being speared, grabs DDP and goes for the pedigreee and gets blocked. DDP then ducks a HHH clotheline and hits the diamond cutter from nowhere and wins the match.

WCW is then given control of Mondays , which is renamed Nitro. WWF keeps Smackdown. Shane, now that he is 2/3 majority owner of the company (owning WCW/ECW) gives Sunday Night Heat to ECW (which is renamed ECW hardcore TV)

All 3 "brands" keep seperate rosters, shows and PPV's. Each brand has 4 PPV's per year. WWF keeps Wrestlemania. Only crossover at all is at the Royal Rumble in the Royal Rumble match.

If the split fails, then WWF can pull the plug after a year. Have a WCW guy win the Rumble and challenge the WWF champion, he loses the match and have a stip where WWF wins Raw back.

This plan provides a fail-safe for in case the split fails and also gives all 3 rosters a chance to grow and develop feuds while keeping the feel of WCW, ECW and WWF.

Unfrotuantly, greed and ego prevented anything like that ever happening.

[robferatu]

Oct 22, 2008 14:52:05 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Oct 22, 2008 12:33:34 GMT -5 Perpetual Nirvana said:

Not really. You think someone like Nash is gonna accept a buyout for his contract when he can get paid to sit at home doing nothing? I'm sure a lot of them felt the same way (Flair signed only days after his Time-Warner contract expired), especially after the guys who did accept the buyout, like DDP, were booked into oblivion.

The only real notable player in the final days of WCW who wasn't eventually offered a deal was Jeff Jarrett which led to him starting his own company.

That's because Jeff Jarrett isn't worthy of much more than midcard status so he started his own company so he could book himself to be at the top. Remember, in WCW's closing days he had friends high up in the company.

and about them not accepting a buyout....if offered the right amount of money, I promise you they'd do it. Money has some serious power over people.

But, you also have to look at it like this.

If you end up offering your former competition more money than your paying the talent that helped put that competition out of business then you're going to have some disgruntled employees on your hands.

[rawthentic]

ECW could have fit in with the invasion, had they sided with WWF, or just been tweeners in the entire thing, but don't side them with WCW who Paul Heyman blames the most for the demise of ECW. Signing away guys like Mike Awesome, Raven, Lance Storm, etc. Don't put Stephanie McMahon in charge when PAUL HEYMAN is there. WWF used to give ECW a lot of rub. WCW refered to ECW as the company out east whenever they signed one of their tops stars from them, and the only time they did mention ECW by name, Scott Hall made fun of the venue. The whole WCW/ECW part made no sense. So like i said, have ECW in there, since a lot of the significant faces were there in WWF and have them be tweeners.

If i could book the invasion over again, i would have waited untill all the top guys were out of their contracts and not forced the issue, right after the Invasion was over Ric Flair appears on T.V. Followed by Hogan, Nash, Hall. Then Goldberg and Scott Stiener, then ERIC BISCHOFF? talk about a year too early.

I thought the only WCW guy used right was Booker T. The only other big star from WCW they had was DDP and they destroyed him. With the way it was there was nothing you could do, except put DDP vs Stone Cold, and leave Booker with the Rock. Then have guys like Kurt and Undertaker beat up the scrubs. HHH and Shawn Micheals being out at that time didnt help. Stupid angle that could have been great had they waited a year. I hear some people say it could have been great then, but there is no way it could have been, even if Vince, Stephanie and Shane didnt get involved.

[derrtaysouth95]

Oct 23, 2008 1:15:29 GMT -5 robferatu said:

Oct 22, 2008 14:52:05 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

That's because Jeff Jarrett isn't worthy of much more than midcard status so he started his own company so he could book himself to be at the top. Remember, in WCW's closing days he had friends high up in the company.

and about them not accepting a buyout....if offered the right amount of money, I promise you they'd do it. Money has some serious power over people.

But, you also have to look at it like this.

If you end up offering your former competition more money than your paying the talent that helped put that competition out of business then you're going to have some disgruntled employees on your hands.

WCW put themselves out of business because they had idiots running the place.

But, you do have a point. The WCW contracts were for obscene amount of money. I think WWE would have ran themselves bankrupt trying to buy them out while still maintaining their own payroll.

At the same time though, had they bought them out and maintained their own roster they might be losing money up front, but they could have easily made back that money in the long run from the increased interest in the storyline.

[Mozenrath]

Oct 23, 2008 1:15:29 GMT -5 robferatu said:

Oct 22, 2008 14:52:05 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

That's because Jeff Jarrett isn't worthy of much more than midcard status so he started his own company so he could book himself to be at the top. Remember, in WCW's closing days he had friends high up in the company.

and about them not accepting a buyout....if offered the right amount of money, I promise you they'd do it. Money has some serious power over people.

But, you also have to look at it like this.

If you end up offering your former competition more money than your paying the talent that helped put that competition out of business then you're going to have some disgruntled employees on your hands.

That was a really big factor in why the Invasion failed in the first place. A lot of wrestlers had some big grudges against the WCW guys coming in, since they had been busting their asses, and they were going to have to likely give up spots in the card for newcomers.