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Post by malevolencedrone on Dec 5, 2008 22:54:39 GMT -5
1. What is the real name of it now? I know the official name of the actual submission hold is called a gogaplata, last week it was referred to as the "Devil's Triangle", this week they are calling it "Hells Gate".
2. When did it become legal for him to do it again?
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Dec 5, 2008 23:02:38 GMT -5
1. It is now called "Hells Gate" it is mentioned as a Slammy nomination.
2. Good question, I think when Vickie brought him back she allowed him to do it again.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Dec 5, 2008 23:25:15 GMT -5
I liked Devil's Triangle better than Hell's Gate.
My suggestion was gogogadgetTaker, but that one was nixed quickly.
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Post by H-Fist on Dec 5, 2008 23:28:17 GMT -5
My suggestion is "The He's a 6-10 300 pound zombie who killed his own father and enjoys locking grown men in coffins and shoots lightning at will so why does he need to have a submission finisher, seriously, I want to know."
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Post by Ash Kingston on Dec 5, 2008 23:47:21 GMT -5
2. When did it become legal for him to do it again? What are the odds this got Three-Month Ruled or utterly forgotten by Creative? They made such a big deal about it being banned, and now it isn't... ...oh my god, it's like when WCW banned the powerbomb and everyone forgot about that! |
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Dec 6, 2008 0:13:53 GMT -5
My suggestion is "The He's a 6-10 300 pound zombie who killed his own father and enjoys locking grown men in coffins and shoots lightning at will so why does he need to have a submission finisher, seriously, I want to know." Paul Bearer wasn't his father, but he did manage to burn down his house with BOTH of his parents still in it. |
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Post by ghettooverlord on Dec 6, 2008 0:51:40 GMT -5
My suggestion is "The He's a 6-10 300 pound zombie who killed his own father and enjoys locking grown men in coffins and shoots lightning at will so why does he need to have a submission finisher, seriously, I want to know." shootign litenine is a disqualificatien u retardd |
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Post by H-Fist on Dec 6, 2008 0:55:29 GMT -5
My suggestion is "The He's a 6-10 300 pound zombie who killed his own father and enjoys locking grown men in coffins and shoots lightning at will so why does he need to have a submission finisher, seriously, I want to know." shootign litenine is a disqualificatien u retardd oh nose!!!1! i had know idea!?!??! But seriously, I like submission finishers for guys who have made their name as tacticians who work a body part and are too small to hit a power move. If Taker can goozle Show, then he doesn't need a submission. If anything, it makes him look bad. Reinventing? Ok. But submission hold? I don't dig it. |
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Post by thuschongswing on Dec 6, 2008 1:00:12 GMT -5
Wikipedia once had it listed as the "Deadman's Judgment." Take it however you want.
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Post by kitsunestar on Dec 6, 2008 1:09:38 GMT -5
Any name is better than what JR used to call Taker's Dragon Sleeper. (Taker Care of Business? WTF?  ) |
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Post by FurryMan on Dec 6, 2008 1:38:51 GMT -5
<snip> If Taker can goozle Show, then he doesn't need a submission. <snip> . The wording of this made me laugh for five straight minutes... |
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Post by WWHHHD on Dec 6, 2008 1:39:28 GMT -5
Any name is better than what JR used to call Taker's Dragon Sleeper. (Taker Care of Business? WTF? ) WHAT!!!!!!!! THAT IS A GREAT NAME!!!! I MOVE TO MAKE THIS THE NAME OF EVERY UT MOVE EVER! |
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Post by Virt McGirt on Dec 6, 2008 1:48:19 GMT -5
Any name is better than what JR used to call Taker's Dragon Sleeper. (Taker Care of Business? WTF? ) Bear in mind this is the same guy who called him Booger Red though  |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Dec 6, 2008 1:58:06 GMT -5
Hey, hey I think we're all forgetiing something here.
Wait what was it again? Ohh, yeah. The Undertaker.......has an excellent.....The Tombstone Piledriver!!!!
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Post by goodomens on Dec 6, 2008 6:17:31 GMT -5
But seriously, I like submission finishers for guys who have made their name as tacticians who work a body part and are too small to hit a power move. If Taker can goozle Show, then he doesn't need a submission. If anything, it makes him look bad. Reinventing? Ok. But submission hold? I don't dig it. I respectfully disagree. I think you're right when the submission hold is a technical move. I wouldn't want to see him doing a Figure 4 or something like that. But he just chokes a guy by jamming the poor fool's throat against his leg until they spit up blood. It's essentially a power move. I think it's fitting. |
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Post by tombstoned on Dec 6, 2008 10:57:52 GMT -5
2. When did it become legal for him to do it again? He's allowed to use it in matches where ANYTHING GOES like a steel cage match, a triple threat match, a street fight, etc. where there are no disqualifications. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 6, 2008 17:13:59 GMT -5
But seriously, I like submission finishers for guys who have made their name as tacticians who work a body part and are too small to hit a power move. If Taker can goozle Show, then he doesn't need a submission. If anything, it makes him look bad. Reinventing? Ok. But submission hold? I don't dig it. I respectfully disagree. I think you're right when the submission hold is a technical move. I wouldn't want to see him doing a Figure 4 or something like that. But he just chokes a guy by jamming the poor fool's throat against his leg until they spit up blood. It's essentially a power move. I think it's fitting. Agreed. Plus, this is just a holdover of how he was before he went back to being the Deadman, like his gloves and punching. |
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Post by malevolencedrone on Dec 12, 2008 23:13:28 GMT -5
Any name is better than what JR used to call Taker's Dragon Sleeper. (Taker Care of Business? WTF? ) But he was workin' overtime. |
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Post by taylorandborland on Dec 13, 2008 0:10:08 GMT -5
2. When did it become legal for him to do it again? Vickie must have let him use it again when she reinstated him, just as a thank-you for getting rid of Edge. |
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Dec 13, 2008 0:12:56 GMT -5
What I don't get is why it doesn't count as a pin against Taker. Most of the time his shoulders are on the mat when he does it.
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