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Post by sands666 on Dec 27, 2008 12:44:52 GMT -5
wrestling started to get hot again about 10 years ago. Do you think that 2009 will be another BOOM period?
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Post by rrg251 on Dec 27, 2008 12:49:44 GMT -5
Yes, and like most things in life, we'll have Mickey Rourke to thank for it.
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Post by Mac on Dec 27, 2008 12:54:03 GMT -5
Nope, it certainly doesnt look psoitioned to do so. Right now we are lacking in a lot of things we had then.
1. Competition, the constant attempts to one up the other program lead to angles,stroylines and wrestlers who needed to appeal to a wider audience. Standrards were loosened and all of a sudden it became "cool" again to watch wrestling. It was no longer the kiddie show cereal box show anymore.
2. Lack of NEW talent, Theres good talent in the WWE, some guys who have a standard mix of mic work, charisma and ability in the ring. But none of them are breaking any new ground and for the most part they are all interchangable with one another. During the breakout period WWF had only one guy who could be Steve Austin, one guy who could be the Rock, one Taker, one DX, one Mick Foley. WCW had only one Hogan, one Goldberg, one DDP and so on. How easy is it to have Randy Orton miss time and give Jericho or JBL his spot. Cocky generic heels who despise fans and do underhanded things.. ooooooooh I'm tuning in!
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Post by Galluchadore on Dec 27, 2008 13:05:40 GMT -5
I really don't think we are going to see a boom period in a long time. Face it Cena is not that guy whois going to usher in hordes of new fans. The wwe loves him and the current under 18 crowd fans love him but he isn't the guy whois going to bring in new fans. Rock and Austin had mass appeal to not only little kids, older fans, they were able to interest non wrestling fans to tune in. What put the WWF over the top in the ratings war was they had the 18-34 males watching them over WCW. In the past few years that demographic has left and moved onto something else... UFC. Unless the wwe can somehow market themselves to appeal to that crowd I think its unlikely.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 27, 2008 13:13:57 GMT -5
No, however I expect ratings to rise if they keep improving like they did this year.
That said anything could happen, I'm hoping Santino becomes the biggest face in the history of WWE.
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Post by btrox85 on Dec 27, 2008 13:17:00 GMT -5
I would like to think another boom period is in the making but I just dont know. I'll say this back in 2004 I had to stop watching due to working nights and not being home and when I did get to see it here and there for those 3 years I just wasn't interested. Losing the attitude era guys and new comers like Brock around that time really hurt them. I agree with mac on the lack of competition. It is hard to improve on something when you have no competition to go against. There are times when the creative team and Vince dont seem to know where to go with things and then there are times like this past monday when everything just clicks and they put on a great show. I think there is plenty of talent they just need to let people bring it out more sometimes. To me it is a good thing to have more than one guy that can play the same type of role because they can swap them out when one is injured or needs time off. Also people dont get tired of seeing the same guy on top all the time. They just need to figure out how to pull it all together and then I think we will be ready for another boom period. I can pick a few guys from each segment of the card that I find entertaining. I couldn't even say that during the attitude era because to be honest most of the undercard guys were terrible and unentertaining.
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Post by nealo on Dec 27, 2008 13:25:44 GMT -5
theres a boom every 3 or so years
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Post by greeby on Dec 27, 2008 13:29:32 GMT -5
Yes, and like most things in life, we'll have Mickey Rourke to thank for it. Which leads me to wonder: As ROH are the ones who stand to capitalise on the movie and hopefull move to a new level of drawing. Will Vince suddenly have the same vendetta against ROH that he does against TNA? |
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Post by bob on Dec 27, 2008 13:40:11 GMT -5
Well, maybe. It's my belief that of all the wrestlers currently working for WWE that the following can lead to a big boom peroid, if and only if they are booked currectly: John Cena, CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Santino Marella, Kofi Kingston, JBL, Legecy, Ted DiBaise Jr, THE Brian Kendrick, Edge, Mr. Kennedy, John Mirrson, The Miz, and Evan Bourne. So they have the talent, but the real question is will they use it correctly.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 27, 2008 13:42:11 GMT -5
theres a boom every 3 or so years What the hell are you talking about? WWE's been getting virtually the same ratings and buyrates since 2002. I know that the ratings and stuff fluctuate, but they've been below the 5.0 range (which they were regularly getting in the attitude era) since 2002. |
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Post by salsashark on Dec 27, 2008 13:44:36 GMT -5
theres a boom every 3 or so years Whuh? |
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Post by Jay Carroll on Dec 27, 2008 13:46:13 GMT -5
Yes, and like most things in life, we'll have Mickey Rourke to thank for it. Which leads me to wonder: As ROH are the ones who stand to capitalise on the movie and hopefull move to a new level of drawing. Will Vince suddenly have the same vendetta against ROH that he does against TNA? I think he already does treat ROH the same was as TNA, you'll never hear ROH mentioned by name on air or have anything done there acknowledged by Vince. That said, what "vendetta" does he have against TNA? They're not exactly showing "Billionaire Dixie" skits on Raw or calling the Impact Zone a bingo hall like they did the ECW Arena. |
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Post by bob on Dec 27, 2008 13:50:14 GMT -5
theres a boom every 3 or so years huh? Care to explain this? |
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Post by The Lunch Break Kid on Dec 27, 2008 13:54:43 GMT -5
Last boom I remember was 96-97 and carried through till about 2003 and has just been bland since.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 27, 2008 15:36:04 GMT -5
Which leads me to wonder: As ROH are the ones who stand to capitalise on the movie and hopefull move to a new level of drawing. Will Vince suddenly have the same vendetta against ROH that he does against TNA? I think he already does treat ROH the same was as TNA, you'll never hear ROH mentioned by name on air or have anything done there acknowledged by Vince. That said, what "vendetta" does he have against TNA? They're not exactly showing "Billionaire Dixie" skits on Raw or calling the Impact Zone a bingo hall like they did the ECW Arena. Actually ROH has been mentioned on WWE before as part of the Matt Hardy/Edge angle. I'm also pretty sure that I've heard Josh Matthews bring up ROH (along with specific Japanese promotions) when putting over London and Kendrick back in the days of Velocity. TNA was also kind of mentioned at the first One Night Satand when Kid Kash came out and Joey Styles called him "Mr. TNA" (which was his gimmick when he was in TNA) |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 27, 2008 15:43:49 GMT -5
No. It's kid friendly direction isn't going to create new viewer. It's just going to continue to alienate long time fans and a large portion of the fan base they've built the last 3 years will outgrow it.
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Post by greeby on Dec 27, 2008 15:51:59 GMT -5
I mean the way he's viewed TNA over the past two years. If you choose TNA over him as Booker and Foley did, Vince seems to take it as a personal betrayal. You're pretty much dead to him. On the flip side, if the whole Braden Walker deal wasn't a case of signing a TNA guy just to humiliate and fire him, I don't know what is.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 27, 2008 17:20:49 GMT -5
No I doubt very seriously there will be a BOOM period in 09. I remember people were saying that back in 06 as it was 10 years after the nWo formation and what not, and it didn't happen then and it's not happening now.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 27, 2008 17:34:27 GMT -5
Well, maybe. It's my belief that of all the wrestlers currently working for WWE that the following can lead to a big boom peroid, if and only if they are booked currectly: John Cena, CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Santino Marella, Kofi Kingston, JBL, Legecy, Ted DiBaise Jr, THE Brian Kendrick, Edge, Mr. Kennedy, John Mirrson, The Miz, and Evan Bourne. So they have the talent, but the real question is will they use it correctly. Fixed, your list was perfect, but you had to bring in that boring... person |
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Post by Jared Jammer on Dec 27, 2008 17:35:56 GMT -5
Despite what people claim, the rise and fall of pro wrestling's popularity has nothing to do with it being a fad and everything to do with the quality of the product. The WWE's ratings didn't plummet because people grew tired of wrestling, their ratings plummeted because the product became dull, boring, predictable, cookie-cutter crap. So no, 2009 wont be the start of another 'boom period'. In fact, there wont be another boom period until the WWE tries to raise the bar for their product. Unfortunately, with no direct competition and with a monopoly on pro wrestling in the U.S., they have no motivation to do such.
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