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Post by hohawiq12 on Feb 5, 2009 13:37:09 GMT -5
Why was Vince the WWF champion back in 1999? He wasn't, like the top babyface and yet he beats a newly established top heel Triple H, vacates the belt one week later, puts it on the line at Unforgiven, only for Triple H to win it back. Didn't make any sense. Also, the fact that Austin helped him to win it didn't makes sense either.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 5, 2009 13:40:08 GMT -5
Because he's got an ego to feed.
He always wanted to be a wrestler. His father wouldn't let him, so he spent some time "living his dream".
And of course, there's the whole "He owns the place" thing. A lot of owners/promoters/bookers are self-serving and book themselves on top at at least some point.
Lawler, Rhodes, Russo, Nash, Vince, Jarrett, Gagne........all the big promoters have at one point or another booked themselves as champ, or if they weren't wrestling, their kids.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Feb 5, 2009 13:42:15 GMT -5
Vince McMahon as champ > Vince Russo as champ.
Both still sucked.
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Post by texan on Feb 5, 2009 13:47:01 GMT -5
I thought it definitely put a blemish on the prestige of the World title at the time. Sammartino, Graham, Hogan, Warrior, Hart, Shawn, Stone Cold........Vince??!!
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 5, 2009 13:47:34 GMT -5
because he's a wrestling promoter, and at some level, all successful (and even unsuccessful) wrestling promoters have some amount of ego to fill. In the case of those not named Paul Heyman, that often entails either self promotion or nepotism to some degree.
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Post by clifford on Feb 5, 2009 14:23:03 GMT -5
Because even back then, Trips was looking ahead to breaking Flair's record of 16 world titles and wanted as many different reigns as he could get.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Feb 5, 2009 14:39:41 GMT -5
I think the better question is why was Vince the ECW champion? I mean, at least his WWF title run was back in the attitude era, when his character was a big deal.
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Post by Big L on Feb 5, 2009 14:40:53 GMT -5
the same reason he was ecw champ
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Post by wrestlesmarks on Feb 5, 2009 14:46:09 GMT -5
Since the rebirth of ECW, Vince is the only champ I cared one way or another about.  |
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Feb 5, 2009 14:54:41 GMT -5
C'mon, you must have marked out a bit when RVD won the title right? Right?! ;D
And Punk winning the ECW title from Morrison was a cool moment.
Also, Big Show's run was pretty solid.
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Post by Stu on Feb 5, 2009 14:59:13 GMT -5
I remember reading at the time the title win was supposed to be symbolic, as it happened around the time Eric Bischoff was removed as head of WCW that year.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 5, 2009 15:05:44 GMT -5
It fit the storyline not too badly. Austin hated Triple H so much he'd make McMahon the World Champion by screwing Triple H.
Better than Arquette..
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Post by Slammywinner on Feb 5, 2009 15:16:08 GMT -5
OK, smark bait aside...the story I remember that had the most credibility was that after they made HHH the champ he elicited such a negative reaction that the powers that be quickly decided to get the belt of him, however since that had been a long time plan, they didn't have someone waiting in the wings to carry the ball. Vince won the belt on Smackdown after getting his ass kicked, but Stone Cold stunned HHH and Vince got the sneaky win, to a huge face pop. He immediately forfeited it on RAW a few days later and put the belt up for grabs in a "6 pack challenge" that saw HHH vs Austin vs Rock vs Mankind vs Taker vs Bulldog. During the 2 or 3 weeks leading up to the match, they decided the negative reaction was "good heel heat" and not "X-Pac heat." In other words, they decided it would be good for ratings for Rock to chase HHH rather than to keep HHH as an upper mid card heel. So Vince's reign didn't really amount to anything. He was suppose to be an attention grabbing transitional champion between HHH and a champ they trusted...which just turned out to be going with HHH after all.
I don't mind this because everyone knew Vince couldn't be the world champ and he won on a fluke with the heavy Austin assist. He didn't claim to be a better wrestler or to deserve the belt, and that's why he gave it up right away and put together the scramble-esque 6 man match. It was also before pretty much any of Vince memorable in ring performances... It's the opposite of his ECW reign where he was heel and claimed to deserve the belt because...he was a heel that ECW fans would hate more than anyone.
More than anything, it's a blemish on the belt because it led to the title being vacated for only the 4th or 5th time in 60 years. I have no problem with Vince holding it or how it was booked.
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Post by lockedontarget on Feb 5, 2009 15:20:02 GMT -5
Basically it was just the "crash TV" style at the time. Things were booked to be "shocking" instead of good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2009 16:18:15 GMT -5
It would have pissed people off to see him win it, so he did it.
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Post by majesty on Feb 5, 2009 16:22:41 GMT -5
OK, smark bait aside...the story I remember that had the most credibility was that after they made HHH the champ he elicited such a negative reaction that the powers that be quickly decided to get the belt of him, however since that had been a long time plan, they didn't have someone waiting in the wings to carry the ball. Vince won the belt on Smackdown after getting his ass kicked, but Stone Cold stunned HHH and Vince got the sneaky win, to a huge face pop. He immediately forfeited it on RAW a few days later and put the belt up for grabs in a "6 pack challenge" that saw HHH vs Austin vs Rock vs Mankind vs Taker vs Bulldog. During the 2 or 3 weeks leading up to the match, they decided the negative reaction was "good heel heat" and not "X-Pac heat." In other words, they decided it would be good for ratings for Rock to chase HHH rather than to keep HHH as an upper mid card heel. So Vince's reign didn't really amount to anything. He was suppose to be an attention grabbing transitional champion between HHH and a champ they trusted...which just turned out to be going with HHH after all. Yeah, I simply don't believe that. >_> They couldn't have not known it was just legit good heel heat on Trips' part. That said, anyone on the similar subject calling Vickie's heat "X-Pac Heat" should go look at Stephanie McMahon around similar times. |
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Post by mrjl on Feb 5, 2009 16:42:04 GMT -5
Why was Vince the WWF champion back in 1999? He wasn't, like the top babyface and yet he beats a newly established top heel Triple H, vacates the belt one week later, puts it on the line at Unforgiven, only for Triple H to win it back. Didn't make any sense. Also, the fact that Austin helped him to win it didn't makes sense either. I just thought it was a bit of a swerve. Vince had already established he'd get in the ring with people he hated. This way he got to take something away from Hunter but it didn't last. |
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Post by johnconnor316 on Feb 5, 2009 16:50:30 GMT -5
Same reason why Verne Gagne was AWA champion.
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Post by sloride on Feb 5, 2009 17:01:12 GMT -5
The same reason why Jerry Lawler is a 30 time Memphis Wrestling Heavyweight Champion.
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Feb 5, 2009 21:13:16 GMT -5
Because he could
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