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Post by angryfan on Apr 23, 2009 8:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 23, 2009 9:00:49 GMT -5
I too think it's a bad idea. Granted, when I was 17, if I had an offer to play professional ball and make some big dollars, I can't say that I wouldn't have done the same. Now as an adult, it's much easier to see the negatives of the seemingly golden opportunity. As angryfan said, one career-ending injury and this kid is in rough shape. If he's that good of a player, he could have easily gotten a scholarship to a top college and continued shooting towards his career and further his education.
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Post by angryfan on Apr 23, 2009 9:05:30 GMT -5
I too think it's a bad idea. Granted, when I was 17, if I had an offer to play professional ball and make some big dollars, I can't say that I wouldn't have done the same. Now as an adult, it's much easier to see the negatives of the seemingly golden opportunity. As angryfan said, one career-ending injury and this kid is in rough shape. If he's that good of a player, he could have easily gotten a scholarship to a top college and continued shooting towards his career and further his education. Thing is, it's not so much the not going to college thing, as that's almost commonplace. Why drop out of high school, though? Is senior year really that big a pain?
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Post by blef on Apr 23, 2009 9:13:40 GMT -5
A college education is nice to have, but I can kinda forgive someone for leaving college early to play pro ball.
This, though, is much worse in comparison. A high school education is a fundamental requirement for life. No matter how well he does in his pro career, abandoning that should always be viewed as a bad decision on his part and eclipse anything he does in his professional life. Because if that career ends prematurely........he's a high school dropout.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 23, 2009 9:17:44 GMT -5
Dude is one torn ligament away from being an after school special, I'm calling it right now. Exactly. Also at 17, his body is still massively changing. He might grow 2 inches and get clumsy as all hell.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Apr 23, 2009 9:33:18 GMT -5
He's following the footsteps from Brandon Jennings last year. However, Jennings was a five year senior who failed the SAT's twice and began thinking pro ball even after taking the SAT's a third time. I don't believe he got the minimum score for Arizona to accept him so it was either Europe or NBDL. I think this is the first case of a player completely forgoing College in favor of the pros. Jennings signed a letter of intent to Arizona. Here's what Jennings had to say of his experience earlier this year. www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/sports/basketball/24recruit.html?_r=1
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Post by Loki on Apr 23, 2009 16:51:34 GMT -5
In most European countries, professional soccer players barely make it through high-school, and often are "awarded" the degree just because they're soon-to-be professional players.
Actually, most of them have a middle-school education, and a mediocre one too...
So I don't really see the big deal...
And it's not as if graduating high-school, or even college, as an athlete will provide him a valuable education... Isn't it a given being part of a sports team will pretty much mean he'll be carried through the years and to the degree almost by default?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 16:56:51 GMT -5
isnt the whole point of the educational and college system to prepare the individual to be a productive member of society and to ensure that he is eligible to have a job that supports him? Or did I miss the point where he should spend the next two years of his life being babied, not taking the education seriously at all, and just wait till hes NBA eligible? Seriously how much is it gonna benefit him to go 1 year at college then entering the draft?
I say kudos to the kid for walking into no mans land and fighting the establishment...the kid is following his dream and with the money he is going to make will be able to send himself to any college he wants if his basketball career does not take off...
college is going to be there even by the time hes 50...a pro basketball career wont be...
the kid seems like a smart individual and the people around him (his father and uncle) are both wealthy and understand the decision and commitment he is making...they are even talking about him finishing school in Europe...
this happens all the time in other counties yet its such a big deal when it happens here...
how many people on this board alone have college degrees and cant find suitable work?
Good for the kid...time on this Earth is short..go for it
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Apr 23, 2009 16:57:41 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Canada sends it's hockey players to play first, then school afterwards. I for one would rather get a career ending injury in the major leauges while being paid for it than playing for some college giving me a fake degree. Teenagers have their entire life to learn, they only a couple good years at sports, and if our society will pay so well for these skills, well, take the money and run.
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Post by Insomniac on Apr 23, 2009 17:07:27 GMT -5
If he succeeds, he paves the way for other star basketball players to drop out of high school and play in Europe until they're eligible for the NBA draft. As was already mentioned, Brandon Jennings skipped college to play a year in Rome, and he's projected to be a high draft pick this summer. He got paid to play a game he loves, in Rome, and didn't have to worry about taking tests or showing up for class.
Then again, high school basketball players would probably never even consider this if the NBA changed their Draft eligibility rules. If a kid wants to jump to the professional level and doesn't want to spend a year in college, they shouldn't have to.
It would be nice if they got a college education, but going to college for one year, especially when you know you aren't staying beyond that, seems pointless to me.
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Post by El Hijo del Havoc on Apr 23, 2009 17:16:26 GMT -5
Not as bad as the kid that dropped out of High School to play Guitar Hero all day
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 17:19:45 GMT -5
Not as bad as the kid that dropped out of High School to play Guitar Hero all day hell kids around here all the time do this...usually though massive amounts of pot and drugs are involved in their reasoning
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 23, 2009 17:20:59 GMT -5
The sad thing is, this is still better than the high school dumbing down its curriculum just so he could past the test. At least this way he MIGHT make some money, although I doubt he's wise enough to do anything intelligent with it.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Apr 23, 2009 17:54:46 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with this. High school and college do not give the educations that they are suppose to these days. it isn't about education anymore. It is about going to school just so you can get a job although about 30-50% of college graduates end up working somewhere for less than 15 dollars an hour anyway. The educational system in the U.S. is bullcrap and it is only a matter of time until a college degree doesn't mean as much as it does.(Twenty years ago it meant a lot more because it was harder because it didn't cost as much to go to college)
I'd say today that a high school degree is almost more important than a college degree for one reason. Most jobs in the US are only required that you have a high school degree. If you go through college great but there is absolutely no guarentee you will get a good job and in fact it is more unlikely that you will these days.(and I don't just mean the economy I mean so many people get a college degree now because it is very easy compared to how it was thirty years ago.)
If he gets injured at least he can come back and take the GED test which is pretty much the exact same thing as a high school diploma now. Jobs don't care at all if you have a GED instead of a diploma now. They use to but they don't anymore because high school in the US is so bad.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 23, 2009 18:00:46 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with this. High school and college do not give the educations that they are suppose to these days. it isn't about education anymore. It is about going to school just so you can get a job although about 30-50% of college graduates end up working somewhere for less than 15 dollars an hour anyway. The educational system in the U.S. is bullcrap and it is only a matter of time until a college degree doesn't mean as much as it does.(Twenty years ago it meant a lot more because it was harder because it didn't cost as much to go to college) I'd say today that a high school degree is almost more important than a college degree for one reason. Most jobs in the US are only required that you have a high school degree. If you go through college great but there is absolutely no guarentee you will get a good job and in fact it is more unlikely that you will these days.(and I don't just mean the economy I mean so many people get a college degree now because it is very easy compared to how it was thirty years ago.) If he gets injured at least he can come back and take the GED test which is pretty much the exact same thing as a high school diploma now. Jobs don't care at all if you have a GED instead of a diploma now. They use to but they don't anymore because high school in the US is so bad. If he doesn't have the motivation/ability to get a high school diploma in the US, why would he have the ability to get a GED?
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Post by Insomniac on Apr 23, 2009 18:07:52 GMT -5
If he doesn't have the motivation/ability to get a high school diploma in the US, why would he have the ability to get a GED? Who says he doesn't have the ability to get a high school diploma? I never read anything about him being a poor student. The reason he's doing this is to (1) Make money now, and (2) Better prepare himself for the pro game. According to the story, he still plans on getting a GED and going to college down the road. Those options will always be there. The chance to make six or seven figures while living in Europe as a 17 year old won't be.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Apr 23, 2009 18:52:12 GMT -5
If he doesn't have the motivation/ability to get a high school diploma in the US, why would he have the ability to get a GED? Who says he doesn't have the ability to get a high school diploma? I never read anything about him being a poor student. The reason he's doing this is to (1) Make money now, and (2) Better prepare himself for the pro game. According to the story, he still plans on getting a GED and going to college down the road. Those options will always be there. The chance to make six or seven figures while living in Europe as a 17 year old won't be. Exactly. He will have the motivation to get a GED for the same reason most kids today get a GED............they don't want to waste time in high school when they can just take a simple test and be done with it.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 23, 2009 18:52:48 GMT -5
The kid has a gift to play basketball at a high level. If he is successful, he will sadly make more money then any college education could provide.
I don't blame him, as I would do the same. If he manages his money right, he could even play for a few years and be set for life.
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Post by bob on Apr 23, 2009 19:10:41 GMT -5
This kid is a moron! You need to have a complete highschool education. If he completes highschool I have no problem with him going to the pros because he can use the moeny he earns playing basketball to pay for college.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 21:11:29 GMT -5
This kid is a moron! You need to have a complete highschool education. The millions of dollars he will be making that will be more then enough to pay for any college begs to differ my friend...
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