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Post by skiller on Apr 23, 2009 21:18:44 GMT -5
Still better than the kid who dropped out of school to play Guitar Hero.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 21:24:50 GMT -5
Still better than the kid who dropped out of school to play Guitar Hero. its already been mentioned in this thread buddy
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Post by skiller on Apr 23, 2009 21:34:04 GMT -5
Still better than the kid who dropped out of school to play Guitar Hero. its already been mentioned in this thread buddy Well uh... you see, I *runs away*.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Apr 23, 2009 22:07:26 GMT -5
Seriously, let's look at it this way. If he injures himself playing during his senior year, good bye. If he injures himself in college, at best all he will get is a crappy athlete degree in Communications, or Sports Business, or Liberal Arts. If he gets injured playing pro ball, he still gets paid for it. An athlete has 15 good years. That's it. If he thinks he can use those years to make millions of dollars, good. If he can use those to pay for college, also good. But ultimately, insisting some one good enough to play pro should go through college and high school first, is like insisting some one do backyard wrestling for eight years, then start looking for indy work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 22:13:04 GMT -5
Seriously, let's look at it this way. If he injures himself playing during his senior year, good bye. If he injures himself in college, at best all he will get is a crappy athlete degree in Communications, or Sports Business, or Liberal Arts. If he gets injured playing pro ball, he still gets paid for it. An athlete has 15 good years. That's it. If he thinks he can use those years to make millions of dollars, good. If he can use those to pay for college, also good. But ultimately, insisting some one good enough to play pro should go through college and high school first, is like insisting some one do backyard wrestling for eight years, then start looking for indy work. PERFECT POST
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 23, 2009 22:20:24 GMT -5
isnt the whole point of the educational and college system to prepare the individual to be a productive member of society and to ensure that he is eligible to have a job that supports him? Or did I miss the point where he should spend the next two years of his life being babied, not taking the education seriously at all, and just wait till hes NBA eligible? Seriously how much is it gonna benefit him to go 1 year at college then entering the draft? I say kudos to the kid for walking into no mans land and fighting the establishment...the kid is following his dream and with the money he is going to make will be able to send himself to any college he wants if his basketball career does not take off... college is going to be there even by the time hes 50...a pro basketball career wont be... the kid seems like a smart individual and the people around him (his father and uncle) are both wealthy and understand the decision and commitment he is making...they are even talking about him finishing school in Europe... this happens all the time in other counties yet its such a big deal when it happens here... how many people on this board alone have college degrees and cant find suitable work? Good for the kid...time on this Earth is short..go for it Realistically school prior to college isn't aimed at "learning." It's aimed at socializing the child to be able to handle functioning in a "productive" fashion in modern society. The grading system isn't proven to actually be useful, and a host of other things. Further, in regards to sports, especially at the college level serves only to gain money for that particular program and to serve as a developmental league for the professional level. Which is borderline unethical, if you REALLY think about. Hell there are people who use athletic scholarships to do academics, but everyone I've heard that does that from the local college is not well liked by the coaching staff, which is understandable. Guy is less inclined to do the craploads of practice you want/require if he's an astrophysics major. If the guy wants to hop to Europe to play, go for it. Does it make things better for him? Who knows. The fact is in ANY game there is the chance for career ending injury, so I wont judge him for a potential disaster. He could still get his GED, and realistically the job market for retired players in a sport isn't that great, outside of stuff related to that sport.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Apr 23, 2009 22:28:34 GMT -5
A 17 year old with a million dollars is one year away from being a broke 18 year old. He will piss the money away, I guarantee it, working a sales job at a car dealership by 25. Shame on his parents for letting him do this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 22:41:46 GMT -5
Eh, good for him. My perspective: it's difficult to get into the NBA so, if he can and he wants to, then he should do it. It SHOULD be difficult to get into college but it isn't. It can be difficult to get out and it can be difficult to find something afterwards; if he's only going to be in college in order to fulfill his NBA requirements, he's not doing anything to help himself or to help anyone else.
Colleges want money, period. IMO, colleges make too much money off their athletes as it is, one more's not going to change anything in either way. He could always go later, college might not be for him, etc. Go for the sure money now, this economy isn't making any promises, so live it up when you can.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 22:59:40 GMT -5
A 17 year old with a million dollars is one year away from being a broke 18 year old. He will piss the money away, I guarantee it, working a sales job at a car dealership by 25. Shame on his parents for letting him do this. even if he pisses the money away in a year...guess what...hes signed to Under Armour...the first basketball player to be signed by them ever and so hjs sponsors are going to pay him for...guess what...another year...the kid has to be 19 before he enters the NBA and if Jennings is any indication this will not hurt his draft potential at all... even if he gets injured in a career ending way...hes got around 3 million dollars...he spends 100 dollars roughly on getting his GED...spends 100 grand on a top school and gets a college degree...that makes him 24 roughly with a lofty bank account and a good future...thats a road we'd all love to travel
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Post by carter 15 on Apr 24, 2009 0:27:03 GMT -5
Making assumptions on someone you don't know at all. Bah, too much of it
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Post by Loki on Apr 24, 2009 1:40:37 GMT -5
A 17 year old with a million dollars is one year away from being a broke 18 year old. He will piss the money away, I guarantee it, working a sales job at a car dealership by 25. Shame on his parents for letting him do this. But the same applies to a 23 years old with a borderline useless degree he got just because he was valuable to the College Team, so he got through all the classes thanks to sport and not to studying. College education (and HS education now?) for athletes is pretty much a farce, I don't see a valid reason for that kid, or for ANY kid with talent in sports and a very likely career as a Pro, to stick with school. Especially with THAT kind of school...
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Apr 24, 2009 1:56:55 GMT -5
So even if they are smart they should not go to school? How many people do you know that did not go to collage that sucessfully went back and did anything?
But yea, I guess people who want to play collage sports do not need to go to school. And if they do its crap degrees. I will tell Amobi Okoye that. Man he is stupid for going to school.
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Post by VenomFang on Apr 24, 2009 1:58:38 GMT -5
Very tough making the transition from high school to Europe. This kid here and probably Jennings too were the best players on their high school teams and probably average mad stats and they go over to Europe and find the brand of basketball over there is very different. Much more of a team game and individual stats arent as emphasized and star players dont get the star treatmeant. Just look at Brandon Jenning's stats this season in Rome and you'll see what I mean. The kid probably thought going in he was gonna dominate and average like 20 and 10 and play 40 min. a game. Not the case since its different over there how things operate. This 17 year old might barely make it off the bench where ever he's playing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 24, 2009 3:46:18 GMT -5
This kid is a moron! You need to have a complete highschool education. If he completes highschool I have no problem with him going to the pros because he can use the moeny he earns playing basketball to pay for college. Couldn't he do the same with a GED? Anyway, while I don't think I'd of gone his route, I hope it works out for the guy. I think statistics are rough enough as it is, I don't have a lot of interest in adding to them.
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Apr 24, 2009 12:51:12 GMT -5
If this was the 50s I'd say bad idea but nowadays pretty much all he'd miss by not taking another year of high school is how to roll spliffs or which member of the Jonas Brothers is the cutest.
As for college big deal just watch any Michael moore "documentary" while drunk and wearing a Che Gueverra shirt. It's basically about the same thing.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Apr 24, 2009 15:56:41 GMT -5
A 17 year old with a million dollars is one year away from being a broke 18 year old. He will piss the money away, I guarantee it, working a sales job at a car dealership by 25. Shame on his parents for letting him do this. even if he pisses the money away in a year...guess what...hes signed to Under Armour...the first basketball player to be signed by them ever and so hjs sponsors are going to pay him for...guess what...another year...the kid has to be 19 before he enters the NBA and if Jennings is any indication this will not hurt his draft potential at all... even if he gets injured in a career ending way...hes got around 3 million dollars...he spends 100 dollars roughly on getting his GED...spends 100 grand on a top school and gets a college degree...that makes him 24 roughly with a lofty bank account and a good future...thats a road we'd all love to travel First, you're taking what I said way too literally. Second, you're giving him way too much credit. You give a kid that kind of money, he'll piss it all away living fast. It doesn't matter how many years his sponsors pay him for. It'll be gone in under 5 years. Assuming the fast living doesn't involve getting caught with drugs in his system, which would result in suspension, it very probably will involve fathering multiple children. He'll end up having to go to the NBA just to pay his child support, which will shorten his career, because he'll be a paycheck player...nobody wants them on their team, because the love of the game is replaced with survival.
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