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Post by Zen411 on Mar 13, 2009 0:08:07 GMT -5
Sorry for the weird thread title.
I keep hearing this guy and that guy is on the outs with Vince and/or WWE. Some are well known reasons (Bret, Warrior) but others are a bit more mysterious.... Savage, Bill Eadie, Bad News Brown...etc.
Does anyone know of a list or website that details these feuds or reasons for a gripe between the two parties?
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Post by Space City's Own on Mar 13, 2009 0:11:08 GMT -5
This will turn into a Savage/Stephanie thread in 3... 2...  |
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Post by Stotty on Mar 13, 2009 0:29:48 GMT -5
I believe Bad News threatened Vince about what he perceived as a lousy payoff for a big PPV. Bret mentions it in his book somewhere
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 13, 2009 0:34:54 GMT -5
As for Bill Eadie it had to do with the rights to the Name Demolition
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Post by Melissalicious on Mar 13, 2009 1:15:22 GMT -5
I THINK I know the basic gist of what happened, but does anyone know the story behind the Savage/Stephanie issues? I really am clueless there.  |
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Post by Stotty on Mar 13, 2009 1:37:00 GMT -5
The Savage Stephanie rumours are completely baseless. There are rumours that Savage slept with her, some suggesting she was as young as 14 at the time. But there is not a single shred of evidence to support it.
It's more likely taht vince has a problem because when Savage went to WCW he took the lucrative Slim Jim deal with him. If there's one thing that pisses Vince off, it's wrestlers cutting him out of deals. (See also: Sgt. Slaughter's G.I Joe action figure)
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Post by BrianZane on Mar 13, 2009 5:20:33 GMT -5
But even Slaughter got back in the good graces of the company, so it's got to be more than just the Slim Jim deal. I'm not saying it adds any credence to the Savage/Stephanie rumors, but it can't just be the Slim Jim thing. There's also the possibility that Savage just won't work anywhere that Hogan's working or is rumored to be working (see their little tiff at a TNA show a couple years back). And even though it seems they're both kind of on Vince's bad side, it appears that Hogan is still in better standing than Savage.
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Post by sloride on Mar 13, 2009 5:26:07 GMT -5
Thing with Savage is that people seem to think it was more than the Slim Jim deal as Vince wont have anything to do with Savage period. Which is odd considering that Savage=money and Vince will bring back anyone if it will make him cash. Hell he brought back Sable who tried to sue him for millions. Personally I think its more than the Slim Jim deal but these Steph rumours have no evidence whatsoever. I dont even know how they started up in the first place. I know they're making a Savage DVD but will Savage be brought back on TV to promote it, I highly doubt it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 13, 2009 5:33:05 GMT -5
It should be noted, however, that Savage's taking Slim Jim with him came at a time when WWF was in a very precarious position. While Sable did sue, and Slaughter got in trouble, WWF was very healthy at the time. The Slim Jim deal was the sort of thing that could of put them out of business if it had led to more sponsors leaving, and I believe Slim Jim was their main sponsor.
In addition, it's possible Vince hasn't sought after Savage due to perceptions Vince holds Savage responsible for Elizabeth's fall from grace. I don't really buy that, but it's been mentioned. I think it's likely he hasn't done it since it may be the sort of thing that could hurt future deals with Hogan.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 13, 2009 5:36:44 GMT -5
Here's a video with Dave Meltzer explaining why the Savage/Steph rumors are most likely true:
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 13, 2009 5:48:12 GMT -5
Do we know the problem is on Vince's end? Is there news of someone bringing up the idea of bringing Savage in and Vince shooting it down?
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 13, 2009 6:08:11 GMT -5
Do we know the problem is on Vince's end? Is there news of someone bringing up the idea of bringing Savage in and Vince shooting it down? Only thing to that effect I can think of is Vince shooting down the idea of making a Savage toy. Given he's not part of their legends program, the point is very likely it'd be costly for WWE to pay Savage, since I do believe he is the sole owner of his image and name. If they made a DVD of him, even given the fact they own a lot of the footage that it'd use, they'd still have to pay him a large sum, and him not being part of the legend program or the roster may mean he could demand a lot more than most people get. |
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Post by 747 on Mar 13, 2009 6:54:33 GMT -5
I thought that Bill Eadie had buried the hatchet with Vince.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 13, 2009 7:00:33 GMT -5
I thought that Bill Eadie had buried the hatchet with Vince. I think recently so, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if WWE and the Dudleyz someday made up, but it won't be soon. |
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Post by 747 on Mar 13, 2009 7:07:51 GMT -5
Billy Gunn & Road Dogg?
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 13, 2009 7:09:34 GMT -5
They got fired, got bitter over it, and lampooned WWE, Vince, and D-X in absolutely awful television on TNA. There hasn't been much indication WWE really cares, though. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Mar 13, 2009 7:56:35 GMT -5
I thought that Bill Eadie had buried the hatchet with Vince. I think recently so, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if WWE and the Dudleyz someday made up, but it won't be soon. According to the Dudleys shoot, they never had a problem with Vince, it was with Johnny Ace who they think got in Vince's ear and told him not to re-sign right when they were about to in 2005. |
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Post by blindfoldmatchhaha on Mar 13, 2009 8:38:57 GMT -5
Dynamite?
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Post by Woooooolhouse! on Mar 13, 2009 8:46:09 GMT -5
Dynamite has a beef with everyone and everything. He is a crippled, lonely old man that hates everyone in the business that isn't also crippled, poor, and lonely. Which is a damn shame . . . he needs to be helped and exhalted for his performance in the ring.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Mar 13, 2009 8:49:00 GMT -5
The guy practically hates everyone and from all accounts is a giant asshole. His issues are really more with Davey Boy Smith/British Bulldog, who was his cousin. DBS trademarked the name British Bulldog and resigned with the WWF without telling Dynamite Kid. |
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