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Post by Paul Servo on Jun 2, 2009 21:04:00 GMT -5
Someday, I'll have to figure out why geeks have such a softspot the loner assassain bounty hunter type. Oh well, someone has to fuel Marine recruitment. He's an assassin bounty hunter that is in love with Bea Auther.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 2, 2009 21:23:58 GMT -5
Someday, I'll have to figure out why geeks have such a softspot the loner assassain bounty hunter type. Oh well, someone has to fuel Marine recruitment. Wade isn't a loner, he talks to the readers. He has almost always had some one at his side as well. Cable, Weasel, Bob Agent of Hydra, and more, not to mention the people in his head he talks to.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jun 2, 2009 21:49:57 GMT -5
Well, Deadpool, Deadshot, Deathstroke the Terminator (Archnemesis to Robin, stupid Teen Titans), Boba Fett the list goes on and on.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 2, 2009 22:31:24 GMT -5
Deadpool doesn't work, he isn't a lone, neither is Deadshot, he is almost always on a team. Niether are loners.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 2, 2009 23:06:57 GMT -5
Considering the fact that Ryan Reynolds and all the Deadpool fans like myself HATED what they did to him in X-Men Origins, it makes complete sense that they'd start from scratch. Not only that, but the easiest way to fix the problems like the lazer eyes and Baraka blades is to simply retcon it. Smart move. And my excitement continues to grow. Glad to know I won't even have to see a flashback of Barakapool. That's true, to an extent. But it doesn't change the fact that people like me (who never cared for comic Deadpool but loved the Wolverine movie and the Deadpool in that movie) aren't going to be so excited about these new developments. Personally, I'll still likely watch the movie, and might even enjoy it, but I can't help but feel let-down that they're taking the character in a different direction than the one I enjoyed him in. Well, I guess too bad for the people who liked the fact that the Wolverine movie ruined Deadpool. It wouldn't be fair for real Deadpool fans if they made a Deadpool solo movie that had to be associated with that crap, bottom line. Comic book characters should never be raped to appease a new audience. It's a slap in the face to their already existing fanbase. Besides, chances are common moviegoers with no knowledge of the comics will enjoy a movie with a guy in a costume with swords who cracks one-liners far more than a movie with that garbage they called "Deadpool" in Wolverine.
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Post by Silent Brad on Jun 3, 2009 16:54:12 GMT -5
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Post by Jam on Jun 3, 2009 16:58:59 GMT -5
How can they have Black Tom without Juggernaut? I liked Juggernaut in X3 for the most part, I think it would be sweet if Vinnie Jones reprised the role in the Deadpool movie.
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 3, 2009 17:01:57 GMT -5
Cable is way too complicated to be introduced in a Deadpool movie (his history is completely tied to X-Men lore). Unless they just make him a random soldier from the future or something.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Jun 3, 2009 17:08:01 GMT -5
If two of my favorite bromances *Cable & Deadpool, Black Tom & Juggernaut* are in this movie I die happy.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 17:47:34 GMT -5
Well, I guess too bad for the people who liked the fact that the Wolverine movie ruined Deadpool. It wouldn't be fair for real Deadpool fans if they made a Deadpool solo movie that had to be associated with that crap, bottom line. Comic book characters should never be raped to appease a new audience. It's a slap in the face to their already existing fanbase. Besides, chances are common moviegoers with no knowledge of the comics will enjoy a movie with a guy in a costume with swords who cracks one-liners far more than a movie with that garbage they called "Deadpool" in Wolverine. I don't "like the fact that the Wolverine movie ruined Deadpool". I just liked the Deadpool presented in the movie far more than I ever liked the comic version. How can they have Black Tom without Juggernaut? I liked Juggernaut in X3 for the most part, I think it would be sweet if Vinnie Jones reprised the role in the Deadpool movie. I'd love to see more of Juggernaut on the big screen... but I'd rather see him in another X-Men movie or in his own solo flick. Still, if he does become part of the Deadpool movie, my interest in it will be sparked again.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 3, 2009 17:57:15 GMT -5
Cable is way too complicated to be introduced in a Deadpool movie (his history is completely tied to X-Men lore). Unless they just make him a random soldier from the future or something. I agree. I have no earthly idea how they could work Cable into the first movie. Cable will need quite a bit of screen time to be established, and with a first movie, the majority screen time needs to go to the title character. I'd love to see more of Juggernaut on the big screen... but I'd rather see him in another X-Men movie or in his own solo flick. Still, if he does become part of the Deadpool movie, my interest in it will be sparked again. How/why would they make a solo Juggernaut movie?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 18:00:39 GMT -5
Cable is the sort of character who needs to be introduced in an X-Men film featuring Apocolypse as the main villain, followed by a solo film to explore more of his history, with his solo film possibly being something of a prequel to the movie he was introduced in.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 18:03:01 GMT -5
I'd love to see more of Juggernaut on the big screen... but I'd rather see him in another X-Men movie or in his own solo flick. Still, if he does become part of the Deadpool movie, my interest in it will be sparked again. How/why would they make a solo Juggernaut movie? How/why would they make a solo Deadpool movie? He's a character with plenty of history and a fan-base. There are people who want to see him get a film, so why not do so?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 3, 2009 18:06:47 GMT -5
How/why would they make a solo Juggernaut movie? How/why would they make a solo Deadpool movie? He's a character with plenty of history and a fan-base. There are people who want to see him get a film, so why not do so? A) Because Deadpool has his own solo comics, and has for quite some time. He's a Marvel franchise in and of himself. B) Yes, Juggernaut does have a fanbase. I'm a huge fan of Juggernaut. That doesn't mean he should get a solo movie. I love Iceman too, but I don't want to see an Iceman movie. Characters like that belong in X-Men movies. They're supporting ensemble characters.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Jun 3, 2009 18:14:27 GMT -5
A Black Tom Cassidy & Juggernaught movie would be awesome.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 18:18:10 GMT -5
Personally, I don't see why any character should be off limits for a solo flick. If it's got a fanbase and someone at Marvel Studios or elsewhere can think up a movie for that character, then I say go for it. The more comic book movies the better, in my opinion, particularly if they're about characters I really like.
And I'd say that Juggernaut is as big a part of Marvel as Deadpool, if not more. He's been in video games since at least the SNES era, has appeared in even non-X-men cartoons, has an internet meme that certain people seem to love, and got even more mainstream exposure via X3. It's not like he's a minor character who only comic book fans know about. So if a Deadpool movie can work (and even if its not my cup of tea, I'm sure it will), then a Juggernaut movie can work as well.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Jun 3, 2009 18:29:36 GMT -5
Just as long as I eventually get a New X-Men, Captain Britain,X-23, or Runaways movie, they can keep pumping them out.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 3, 2009 18:31:36 GMT -5
Personally, I don't see why any character should be off limits for a solo flick. If it's got a fanbase and someone at Marvel Studios or elsewhere can think up a movie for that character, then I say go for it. The more comic book movies the better, in my opinion, particularly if they're about characters I really like. And I'd say that Juggernaut is as big a part of Marvel as Deadpool, if not more. He's been in video games since at least the SNES era, has appeared in even non-X-men cartoons, has an internet meme that certain people seem to love, and got even more mainstream exposure via X3. It's not like he's a minor character who only comic book fans know about. So if a Deadpool movie can work (and even if its not my cup of tea, I'm sure it will), then a Juggernaut movie can work as well. Different strokes, I guess. I just don't see any studio being willing to take a chance on a character who is best known for being a henchman for Magneto. The movie would almost certainly flop. There are only a handful of comic book movies a year, and the most sound strategy is to create films for characters who've successfully carried a solo comic series. From there, I'm sure they look at which characters translate well into being leading men/women. Characters like Superman, Batman, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, and yes, Deadpool all have that lead character quality. They all fit into different archetypes that sell action movies. I see where you're coming from, I really do. I'm a huge fan of Nightcrawler, and would personally be completely entertained by a two-hour Nightcrawler movie. But, he doesn't really work alone if translated to film. They'd have to make severe alterations to the character to make him work in that role, and by that point he wouldn't be Nightcrawler anymore.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 18:32:58 GMT -5
Just as long as I eventually get a New X-Men, Captain Britain,X-23, or Runaways movie, they can keep pumping them out. I'm fairly certain Runaways will get a movie one day. It shouldn't be too hard to market them out to the teenage crowd. And if comic book movies remain profitable, I wouldn't be surprised to see more and more characters, including the rest of your picks, get the movie treatment as well. Which, as I'm pretty sure I've made clear already, is awesome in my opinion. Even if I don't care for all of the movies coming out, it just means the chances of one I do care about coming out as well.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 3, 2009 18:39:34 GMT -5
Personally, I don't see why any character should be off limits for a solo flick. If it's got a fanbase and someone at Marvel Studios or elsewhere can think up a movie for that character, then I say go for it. The more comic book movies the better, in my opinion, particularly if they're about characters I really like. And I'd say that Juggernaut is as big a part of Marvel as Deadpool, if not more. He's been in video games since at least the SNES era, has appeared in even non-X-men cartoons, has an internet meme that certain people seem to love, and got even more mainstream exposure via X3. It's not like he's a minor character who only comic book fans know about. So if a Deadpool movie can work (and even if its not my cup of tea, I'm sure it will), then a Juggernaut movie can work as well. Different strokes, I guess. I just don't see any studio being willing to take a chance on a character who is best known for being a henchman for Magneto. The movie would almost certainly flop. There are only a handful of comic book movies a year, and the most sound strategy is to create films for characters who've successfully carried a solo comic series. From there, I'm sure they look at which characters translate well into being leading men/women. Characters like Superman, Batman, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, and yes, Deadpool all have that lead character quality. They all fit into different archetypes that sell action movies. I see where you're coming from, I really do. I'm a huge fan of Nightcrawler, and would personally be completely entertained by a two-hour Nightcrawler movie. But, he doesn't really work alone if translated to film. They'd have to make severe alterations to the character to make him work in that role, and by that point he wouldn't be Nightcrawler anymore. Oh, I agree on the strategy. Basically, I think they should start with the big names, and work their way down. X-Men introduced Wolverine... Wolverine introduced Deadpool... etc. And, who knows, maybe a Juggernaut movie would be a big flop. But as I've never been one to care about what the masses think, then it wouldn't matter to me as long as it came out and entertained me.
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