4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Apr 14, 2009 19:42:17 GMT -5
Cena main eventing doesnt seem to be gaining buys since his return at Survivor Series did an awful buyrate. And his return was overhyped to the point of inducing suicide...i guess the Cena fad is over. Cena winning doesn't = buys it would seem. Thank god
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Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Apr 14, 2009 19:43:49 GMT -5
Why pay $55 for the PPV when you can just buy the DVD for $20 (or is it more than that?) a month or two later.
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Post by skiller on Apr 14, 2009 19:50:17 GMT -5
The biggest problem with this years show was that almost all the names who headlined last years event were headlining again this year.
The other problem was that many of the matches they chose to sell the event had been done before. In some cases fairly recently too.
I remember when Wrestlemania almost always offered some sort of big change leading into questions about what would happen for the rest of the year. This year they offered just about the same thing we saw last year.
I'm not surprised it didn't do as well as they'd expected. But I also didn't think it would be this bad.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Apr 14, 2009 20:00:30 GMT -5
What a surprise. Crappy build + crappy, worn out matches= low buyrate. Maybe now Vince will realize that what he is doing is losing him money and try to freshen things up.
Or he'll just blame the economy and, fire the first 15 people he see at the next PPV.
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The_ripoff_artist
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Post by The_ripoff_artist on Apr 14, 2009 20:10:49 GMT -5
OH NO WWE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Apr 14, 2009 20:15:02 GMT -5
I wonder if this will finally put to bed the myth that WM sells itself on name value alone. I'm pretty sure it's what WWE was banking on, presenting several re-run programs (HHH/Orton with the return of the stale-as-all-hell McMahons getting main event focus, Edge/Cena...adding only Show for flavoring) as well as the redundant Money in the Bank match which features many of the same faces in the match from year-to-year (I like the match well enough, but I think it just smacks of lazy booking. Also, with each successive year, there's less and less to actually DO in a ladder match that anyone would be impressed with...and there is a likelihood that anything that might be thought up will end up getting blown anyway).
If HBK/Taker had not delivered, I shudder to think what the response to the show would have been. I wouldn't be surprised if that match not only saved the show, but sold it as well. I don't know many of my friends who were excited for WM outside of HBK/Taker. A few were psyched for Money in the Bank because it's pure spectacle, and a good portion of them were excited for Colons/InCrowd because it was something different, but other than that...well, they just couldn't "get it up" for Mania this year. I was pumped, but as the show ended and the high wore off, I kinda started wondering if it was really their fault that they weren't excited, or if WWE had dropped the ball in presenting a lackluster card in the hopes that WM would sell itself.
Ah well, I can't know that WWE was banking on WM to sell itself, but I can at least draw the inference from the rehashed card they presented, and the even staler results. I really hope they get their crap together, or the WrestleMania name is going to lose its inherent drawing power.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Apr 14, 2009 20:34:40 GMT -5
Not suprised. It was a lackluster Wrestlemania.
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Kae
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Post by Kae on Apr 14, 2009 20:48:41 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that buyrates are down. People don't have a lot of disposable income, $55 is a lot of money to blow on an evening's entertainment, and it's not very hard at all to find illegal, free feeds. That is enough to account for it IMO.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Apr 14, 2009 20:50:26 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that buyrates are down. People don't have a lot of disposable income, $55 is a lot of money to blow on an evening's entertainment, and it's not very hard at all to find illegal, free feeds. That is enough to account for it IMO. So half of the people who bought last year either didn't buy it or found an illegal feed?
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Sonic...SonicTruth
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Post by Sonic...SonicTruth on Apr 14, 2009 20:56:59 GMT -5
What a surprise. Crappy build + crappy, worn out matches= low buyrate. Maybe now Vince will realize that what he is doing is losing him money and try to freshen things up. My feelings exactly. HBK/Undertaker WAS 'Mania this year. Unbelievable match, sure, but WM 21 had more than just Angle/HBK, WM XIX had more than just HBK/Jericho...one classic match dosen't make a whole PPV, ESPECIALLY a whole 'Mania. WM XXV should have been HUGE...WWE really dropped the ball on an event people were waiting for for a while.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 14, 2009 21:00:19 GMT -5
Not suprised. It was a lackluster Wrestlemania. Exactly. 4 hours and only 1 stellar, memorable match is not worth $55 or $65 in todays economy, as I've said before.
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Post by greeby on Apr 14, 2009 23:17:12 GMT -5
I'm not hopeful that Vince will get the hint that it's the overexposed and stale main event that's the problem. Probably just fire another round of low-carders
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 23:20:08 GMT -5
Vince: "I TOLD YOU we should have had Kid Rock go on at least 90 minutes, but nooooooooooooo"
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 14, 2009 23:31:30 GMT -5
So does this finally, unequivically kill the perception that "WM will sell itself, it's WM!"? Because if this doesn't prove it, I don't know what will.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Apr 14, 2009 23:59:41 GMT -5
From what I heard (the early reports), worldwide buys are at 750,000 in total. Yeah, this can't be good for the WWE, especially since they had 300,000+ more buys last year.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 15, 2009 0:05:34 GMT -5
I gotta agree with putting alot of the blame on the economy. Ya, the actual build to WM sucked, but the fact of the matter is at $55 a pop, wrestling PPV's would be one of the first things I'd stop purchasing to save money.
Especially considering, like has been said, it's easy to watch the show for free.
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Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Apr 15, 2009 0:21:46 GMT -5
The other problem was that many of the matches they chose to sell the event had been done before. In some cases fairly recently too. Yeah, like ONE WEEK BEFORE THE PPV!! (JBL/Rey)
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Beans
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Post by Beans on Apr 15, 2009 2:17:26 GMT -5
Are illegal cable feeds, the possibility of watching the match cheaper on DVD a few weeks later and the high price unique to 2009?
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 15, 2009 4:02:55 GMT -5
I don't know.
I do know that without any hard numbers out yet, we're still all kinda flailing around a bit. Hopefully they'll announce them within the month.
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Post by mauled on Apr 15, 2009 4:30:16 GMT -5
What a surprise. Crappy build + crappy, worn out matches= low buyrate. Maybe now Vince will realize that what he is doing is losing him money and try to freshen things up. My feelings exactly. HBK/Undertaker WAS 'Mania this year. Unbelievable match, sure, but WM 21 had more than just Angle/HBK, WM XIX had more than just HBK/Jericho...one classic match dosen't make a whole PPV, ESPECIALLY a whole 'Mania. WM XXV should have been HUGE...WWE really dropped the ball on an event people were waiting for for a while. 19 Had Vince and Hogan Rock and Austin and Angle and Brock. Those were the last 3 matches on the night for a reason. And Trips was back in the middle where he belongs albiet burying Booker T. Its not simply about the quality of the matches there was a reason Hogan was main eventing 8 yrs straight regardless of the quality. Its cause he sold. There was a reason why The Rock and Austin where huge cause they sold. Now its about Trips and who ever. I loved the HBK DVD and his comments about how it was originally going to be him and Cena for the main event before he got injured!! The exact same event that was last year !!!!
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