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Post by Paul Servo on Jun 13, 2009 17:53:54 GMT -5
She's kinda hot, but the bitch factor, negates it.
And in that SOUP clip, I knew what he was talking about, and I'm not that smart
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jun 13, 2009 19:04:55 GMT -5
She should have called her kids a bunch of parasitic gelatinous tapeworms.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 13, 2009 19:07:41 GMT -5
She should have called her kids a bunch of parasitic gelatinous tapeworms. Heh...and then gone all Velvet Skye on them. "Look at you all...brown haired and ugly. You'll never be beautiful like Mommy. God, how DID you come out so ugly when I'm so hot? Must be your father's genes. YOU! Big ugly girl...get off your fat ass and fetch Mommy some more Evian. NOW!"
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jun 13, 2009 21:22:51 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, the pot(s) calling the kettle black.
If you had ever actually *seen* this show, you would know that Madeline (Mattie/Maddie) is the biggest whiny baby of the entire family (and that is DEFINITELY a PG version of what I really think of the kid). I have no doubt in my mind that this is just another example of Kate teaching discipline to her kids, or in this case, to the one kid in the family doomed to a life of narcissism, vindicitive nature, and egocentrism, that is unless something drastically changes with her in the next 5 or 6 years. Cara (Madeline's twin) gets treated the exact same way, and she is responsive and therefore gets less of the "heel treatment"; I mean, why would she if she's doing what her parents ask of her. She's a freaking great little kid.
As far as my opening line as the top of the post, it's aggravating how many can clamor on about someone they admittedly have NO knowledge of, yet they make blanket judgments and observations about a 2-minute clip taken completely out of context. (OMG! THOZ PEEPELS WHO DONT WATCH TEH RASSLIN DO TAHT 2 ME & TEH BIZNESS T0oOOO!) Congratulations for contributing to the endless ego boosts and justifications for sensationalist journalism that dominates the pop cultured globe.
With my defense of the clip being said, I DEFINTELY have a huge dislike for Kate, but as had been noted in another thread about the show by other posters who actually watch the show, a bad mother she is not. I definitely disagree with her about many things, but her intentions are in the right place and just because I have pet peeves with her personality doesn't mean she's doing a bad job. For every moment like this, there are at least 15 other moments were she uses POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT as a disciplinary/conditioning tool for teaching her kids. Honestly, if I had to deal with Madeline for just half a day, I would probably sell the house, jump on a train, and not leave a forwarding address before her parents got back. But that's because I would be a bad person who couldn't put up with all of her constant crap while Kate on the other hand defintiely loves her little girl unconditionally *because she's her parent*.
If you want to talk about Kate as a de-masculating witch to fellow adult males, then fire up the flames, I'm game. But I thought this clip was fine parenting, however. I'm fully confident that Mattie was being her usual "give me ALL of the attention" self by complaining about the water, KNOWING they were about to go on air, and she had no need of something to drink whatsoever. She pulls this stupid crap all the time on the show (and I can't IMAGINE how often she does it in their regular everyday lives when you *know* the real life family foibles are on full tilt).
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Post by BRV on Jun 13, 2009 21:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 14, 2009 2:19:58 GMT -5
And if the show wasn't around in the first damn place, all of this could have been avoided. But then that would mean that the Gosselins would have to do what everyday NORMAL families do when this kind of thing happens to them: beg of their community for help, and actually find REAL jobs. I feel so sorry that a woman who lives her life (and in turn forces her kids to live their lives) in front of a camera gets torn down by the very media she depends on for survival. Fame is a dual edged sword.
But yeah, lets blame the child for the mother pulling a very nasty, very mean thing on the child. I am sure it was TOTALLY justified, teasing her and mocking her like that. Who's the ADULT again?
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Post by OriasPool on Jun 14, 2009 7:19:45 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, the pot(s) calling the kettle black. If you had ever actually *seen* this show, you would know that Madeline (Mattie/Maddie) is the biggest whiny baby of the entire family (and that is DEFINITELY a PG version of what I really think of the kid). I have no doubt in my mind that this is just another example of Kate teaching discipline to her kids, or in this case, to the one kid in the family doomed to a life of narcissism, vindicitive nature, and egocentrism, that is unless something drastically changes with her in the next 5 or 6 years. Cara (Madeline's twin) gets treated the exact same way, and she is responsive and therefore gets less of the "heel treatment"; I mean, why would she if she's doing what her parents ask of her. She's a freaking great little kid. As far as my opening line as the top of the post, it's aggravating how many can clamor on about someone they admittedly have NO knowledge of, yet they make blanket judgments and observations about a 2-minute clip taken completely out of context. (OMG! THOZ PEEPELS WHO DONT WATCH TEH RASSLIN DO TAHT 2 ME & TEH BIZNESS T0oOOO!) Congratulations for contributing to the endless ego boosts and justifications for sensationalist journalism that dominates the pop cultured globe. I understand what you mean about discipline and it is a good point, but if she really wanted to do that, she'd say "Okay, no one gets water until the interview is over." Not literally tell the "whiny baby" she can't have any water and then literally drink water right in front of her face. It seems like another way of spitting in her face to do that. It wasn't the denying the water that so much bothered me, it was the denying water, then drink water in her face that bothered me.
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Post by Grendel on Jun 14, 2009 7:47:24 GMT -5
She should have called her kids a bunch of parasitic gelatinous tapeworms. Heh...and then gone all Velvet Skye on them. "Look at you all...brown haired and ugly. You'll never be beautiful like Mommy. God, how DID you come out so ugly when I'm so hot? Must be your father's genes. YOU! Big ugly girl...get off your fat ass and fetch Mommy some more Evian. NOW!" Is it bad that I found that to be humorous?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 14, 2009 8:00:00 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesnt give a flying f*** about Jon, Kate for their brood of kids?
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 14, 2009 8:05:39 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesnt give a flying f*** about Jon, Kate for their brood of kids? You're not the only one.
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Post by mrrotten on Jun 14, 2009 9:35:06 GMT -5
I just want to mention how I love the simpson's references in this thread so far.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jun 14, 2009 11:04:23 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't think most "reality" TV is scripted (esp. shows like this) is a total dupe.
Seriously, they're about one step away from having Kate crush puppies under her car.
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Post by B.B.M on Jun 14, 2009 11:27:10 GMT -5
What is with you Americans, and weird reality TV shows
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Post by Paul Servo on Jun 14, 2009 11:28:01 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't think most "reality" TV is scripted (esp. shows like this) is a total dupe. Seriously, they're about one step away from having Kate crush puppies under her car. I'm not sayin that the producers dont' set stuff up in these programs, but they want us to feel sorry for this woman for what is happening, and you'd think she'd want to be painted in a better light
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 14, 2009 13:13:23 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't think most "reality" TV is scripted (esp. shows like this) is a total dupe. Seriously, they're about one step away from having Kate crush puppies under her car. Next week on "Jon & Kate + 8".... Kate: (Sitting in a souped up Hummer with flames on the sides, and a picture of the Devil on the hood, revving the engine, while a basket full of puppies squirms in front of it) BWAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! See you in hell, you annoying bundles of cuteness! You must die, for I alone am the cutest, hottest thing on this show! AAIIIIIIIEEEEEE! ;D
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Post by Paul Servo on Jun 14, 2009 13:41:15 GMT -5
Am I going to Hell for thinking that once this well dries up, Kate will do porno and the possibilites of the titles?
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 14, 2009 13:44:26 GMT -5
Am I going to Hell for thinking that once this well dries up, Kate will do porno and the possibilites of the titles? "Kate + 8.....and a midget"
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jun 14, 2009 13:49:42 GMT -5
Am I going to Hell for thinking that once this well dries up, Kate will do porno and the possibilites of the titles? Peter North & Kate: Plus 8 Other Penises I don't give two craps about this show, I just wanted to say that.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 14, 2009 14:31:09 GMT -5
Am I going to Hell for thinking that once this well dries up, Kate will do porno and the possibilites of the titles? Not at all...and there are TONS of them they could use. In fact, I am surprised that a porno parody of this does not exist already. Also, I can't be alone in thinking that Kate looks very much like a porn star nowadays, with her little bob haircut and her plastic surgery enhanced features.
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Post by salsashark on Jun 14, 2009 15:09:00 GMT -5
It boggles my mind how much attention you are giving this if you hate it so much. Your sharing of the YouTube video and talking about the show is contributing to its pop cultural ubiquity. You're contributing to the popularity/notoriety of the show and helping people watch it and thus stay on the air.
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