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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jul 6, 2009 9:41:43 GMT -5
This little bastard went extinct, but some people think they're still around. Some scientists think we are to blame for them being gone and is trying to use 100 year old DNA to clone them. Should we bother bringing back animals that had a chance already and didn't last?  |
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Post by Brother Coyote on Jul 6, 2009 9:54:20 GMT -5
only if they were especially delicious.
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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 6, 2009 10:17:51 GMT -5
This little bastard went extinct, but some people think they're still around. Some scientists think we are to blame for them being gone and is trying to use 100 year old DNA to clone them. Should we bother bringing back animals that had a chance already and didn't last? No. Have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? I believe in survival of the fittest and that there are no second chances in that game. One day something will come along and knock us off and make us as dead as a Dodo. Thats just the way things work. |
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Post by FrankGotch on Jul 6, 2009 10:23:19 GMT -5
This little bastard went extinct, but some people think they're still around. Some scientists think we are to blame for them being gone and is trying to use 100 year old DNA to clone them. Should we bother bringing back animals that had a chance already and didn't last? No. Have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? I believe in survival of the fittest and that there are no second chances in that game. One day something will come along and knock us off and make us as dead as a Dodo. Thats just the way things work. With the invention of globalization, all the old rules about survival of the fittest went out the window. Most animals going extinct today aren't going extinct because they can't hang naturally. They are going extinct due to loss of habitat, competition with farmers and large herds of live stock, and over hunting by poachers. Also the only thing that will ever knock out man will be nature (in which case all living things are screwed) or it will be ourselves. Anyhoo what we need to bring back is the Pocket Fox it only lived for 15 minutes in the 16th century, the insides of it's pockets are the strongest aphrodisiac on earth. |
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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 6, 2009 10:26:13 GMT -5
No. Have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? I believe in survival of the fittest and that there are no second chances in that game. One day something will come along and knock us off and make us as dead as a Dodo. Thats just the way things work. With the invention of globalization, all the old rules about survival of the fittest went out the window. Most animals going extinct today aren't going extinct because they can't hang naturally. They are going extinct due to loss of habitat, competition with farmers and large herds of live stock, and over hunting by poachers. Also the only thing that will ever knock out man will be nature (in which case all living things are screwed) or it will be ourselves. Anyhoo what we need to bring back is the Pocket Fox it only lived for 15 minutes in the 16th century, the insides of it's pockets are the strongest aphrodisiac on earth. Still, have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? Cloning is dangerous. I don't trust it. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jul 6, 2009 10:34:43 GMT -5
I don't know about brining back extinct animals, but maybe cloning living, endangered animals...like Rhino's and Tigers and stuff like that.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jul 6, 2009 11:03:31 GMT -5
Cloning in the future is going to end up being a lot like most taboos. Right now to most people cloning is scary shadowy stuff, many folks don't even understand how the process works. As cloning procedures become more, and more reliable, all it will take is a few cloned extinct animals being brought back to really get the ball rolling. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if say in a 100- 150 years zoos had things like mammoths, or even dinosaurs as part of special exhibits. From there the ball will keep rolling till we have cloned some of our early ancestors, or other Hominidae that we lived alongside like the Neanderthals.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 6, 2009 12:07:52 GMT -5
With the invention of globalization, all the old rules about survival of the fittest went out the window. Most animals going extinct today aren't going extinct because they can't hang naturally. They are going extinct due to loss of habitat, competition with farmers and large herds of live stock, and over hunting by poachers. Also the only thing that will ever knock out man will be nature (in which case all living things are screwed) or it will be ourselves. Anyhoo what we need to bring back is the Pocket Fox it only lived for 15 minutes in the 16th century, the insides of it's pockets are the strongest aphrodisiac on earth. Still, have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? Cloning is dangerous. I don't trust it. Oh noes, we might get overrun with a smallish marsupial that can't even fight dingoes effectively, that's totally the same as a T-Rex  |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 6, 2009 12:15:06 GMT -5
I am not a fan of cloning. However, The Thylacine has been one of my favorite animals for years, so for that I can make an exception.
Also it might not even be extent. People have been seeing things like it for decades now in remote areas of Australia. It might be like that Woodpecker that they found a few years ago.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 6, 2009 12:17:01 GMT -5
I am not a fan of cloning. However, The Thylacine has been one of my favorite animals for years, so for that I can make an exception. Also it might not even be extent. People have been seeing things like it for decades now in remote areas of Australia. It might be like that Woodpecker that they found a few years ago. I have a bad feeling its really gone, and things are looking bad for the Devil as well www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080128173735.htm |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 6, 2009 12:21:44 GMT -5
I am not a fan of cloning. However, The Thylacine has been one of my favorite animals for years, so for that I can make an exception. Also it might not even be extent. People have been seeing things like it for decades now in remote areas of Australia. It might be like that Woodpecker that they found a few years ago. I have a bad feeling its really gone, and things are looking bad for the Devil as well www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080128173735.htmYea but Im still holding out hope.  |
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 6, 2009 12:24:29 GMT -5
Yea but Im still holding out hope. For Thylacine or Devil? We might be able to come up with a cure for Devil face cancer still, imagine what a similar plague would do to the much smaller Thylacine population (assuming it still exists) |
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jul 6, 2009 12:27:54 GMT -5
With the invention of globalization, all the old rules about survival of the fittest went out the window. Most animals going extinct today aren't going extinct because they can't hang naturally. They are going extinct due to loss of habitat, competition with farmers and large herds of live stock, and over hunting by poachers. Also the only thing that will ever knock out man will be nature (in which case all living things are screwed) or it will be ourselves. Anyhoo what we need to bring back is the Pocket Fox it only lived for 15 minutes in the 16th century, the insides of it's pockets are the strongest aphrodisiac on earth. Still, have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? Cloning is dangerous. I don't trust it. The big mistake made with cloning in Jurassic Park, is the fact the scientists chose to clone DINOSAURS. I'm not an expert on dinosaurs, but I'm pretty sure they are more of a threat to humans, than the tazmanian tiger. Personally, I'd like to see scientists clone a young, bad-ass Taz. You want dangerous, what do you think will happen when the clone of Taz realizes he is only a clone? |
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 6, 2009 12:31:35 GMT -5
Still, have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park? Cloning is dangerous. I don't trust it. The big mistake made with cloning in Jurassic Park, is the fact the scientists chose to clone DINOSAURS. I'm not an expert on dinosaurs, but I'm pretty sure they are more of a threat to humans, than the tazmanian tiger. Personally, I'd like to see scientists clone a young, bad-ass Taz. You want dangerous, what do you think will happen when the clone of Taz realizes he is only a clone? That and Thylacines are supposed to exist in the current ecosystem, Dinos aren't. |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 6, 2009 12:32:28 GMT -5
Yea but Im still holding out hope. For Thylacine or Devil? We might be able to come up with a cure for Devil face cancer still, imagine what a similar plague would do to the much smaller Thylacine population (assuming it still exists) For Both. But with the Thylacine you have to factor in there has to be something special about the surviving members, if they exist, have been allusive for this long. They might have mutated a while ago, nothing radical but still.... Who knows really. And Animals near the brink of extinction can come back in full force like the Alligator and Bald Eagle. |
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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 6, 2009 12:49:57 GMT -5
Oh sure. You start with animals, but where does it go next? Humans. I have this fear that should we start cloning humans we won't treat them as humans. We might just use them for spare parts, slavery, or war. Theres too many questions.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 6, 2009 12:56:35 GMT -5
Cloning animals does not equal cloning humans. That will be banned pretty much everywhere.
Besides, humans pretty much made the Thylacine extinct through their own actions. If anything, restoring it would be restoring the natural balance.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jul 6, 2009 13:02:44 GMT -5
Oh sure. You start with animals, but where does it go next? Humans. I have this fear that should we start cloning humans we won't treat them as humans. We might just use them for spare parts, slavery, or war. Theres too many questions. Sorry dude but it sounds like you don't understand cloning. A human who is cloned would be just as human as anyone else, and the only way anyone would even know the difference is if the clone person were to tell them, or if they were the clone of a long dead famous person. Ethics for a clone would be the same as ethical standards for a human because that is what they would be. As for spare parts we can make them right now. Why would anyone manufacture a whole human being, and wait around for that human to get old enough for harvest when we can grow spare parts in a lab in a fraction of the time with far less investment. As of right now we have the technology to grow any spare parts we want using stem cells. Cloning in the future most likely would be used to make humans healthier by giving us superior internal organs, and making us less prone to cancer, obesity, and many other genetic diseases. Honestly I doubt we would even clone anyone living, or dead, rather we would just clone desirable organs, and cells based on the over all health and well being of the human species. |
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Post by Malcolm on Jul 6, 2009 13:03:59 GMT -5
Oh sure. You start with animals, but where does it go next? Humans. I have this fear that should we start cloning humans we won't treat them as humans. We might just use them for spare parts, slavery, or war. Theres too many questions. No-debate-zone territory ahoy! |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 6, 2009 13:14:17 GMT -5
Guys lets not tread down that road.
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