MAGGLE
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Post by MAGGLE on Apr 29, 2009 12:31:54 GMT -5
He says:
- "The times changed and so have we"
- "Arent you tired of watching bad guy vs good guy"
- "The times of Super Heros, eating your vitamins and say your prays changed".
So why in the hell did Vince change his mind and became the Rated PG Era?
BTW: I do not hate the current product, I even like it. But I am sick of seeing white and black Characters, I want GREY again.
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 29, 2009 12:33:09 GMT -5
Because the Attitude Era audience (teenagers) grew up and he needed a new audience of little kids to start over with.
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Post by parder on Apr 29, 2009 12:51:53 GMT -5
Because the Attitude Era audience (teenagers) grew up and he needed a new audience of little kids to start over with. Although interestingly the median age for Raw viewers is somewhere in the 30s as they do better in 18-49 than they do in 18-30. I think one factor might be that a lot of people who were in their 20s during the Attitude era and managed to stick with the product now have families of their own, but want to be able to let their kids watch and go to the house shows. So they've toned it all down for them. It would also help explain how apart from Cena, Batista, and Orton, the only other wrestlers who get big star reactions are those who first made a name for themselves during the Attitude era (or before then). In the US at least I think the young unmarried male adult market is being much more tapped by MMA and UFC in particular right now. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 29, 2009 12:52:53 GMT -5
Haha, I love how he mentioned "borrowing" from King of the Hill. I wonder what they could have taken from that show. An announcing team that just goes "yep" and "mhmmm" to everything? Or during a backstage segment Hank and the guys are just standing in the background holding a beer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 12:59:48 GMT -5
Haha, I love how he mentioned "borrowing" from King of the Hill. I wonder what they could have taken from that show. An announcing team that just goes "yep" and "mhmmm" to everything? Or during a backstage segment Hank and the guys are just standing in the background holding a beer?  This is the man who will take over the pay-windah commentary role the WWE so sorely require. |
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Magician under the moonlight
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Apr 29, 2009 13:39:54 GMT -5
Haha, I love how he mentioned "borrowing" from King of the Hill. I wonder what they could have taken from that show. An announcing team that just goes "yep" and "mhmmm" to everything? Or during a backstage segment Hank and the guys are just standing in the background holding a beer? Maybe he was talking about the movie.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 14:02:19 GMT -5
I grew up watching WWF in the eighties, and stopped watching up until the attitude era. I loved the attitude era, and I still like to watch those shows or the old school ECW matches. However I have kids now, and I don't want them to watch that stuff. Like a poster said Vince realizes that the crowd that was watching then, grew up and have kids. While some of us still enjoy watching that kind of programming we also have to put our kids first in not letting them grow up watching Sable strip down on Raw, Mark Henry make out with a tranny, or any of the other stuff that went on then.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 29, 2009 16:16:02 GMT -5
Vince changed with the times and continues to do so. Vince will go right back to R rated stuff if it calls for it and everyone will stay off his back. He's just trying to survive.
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Post by neilfrazier on Apr 29, 2009 16:18:51 GMT -5
The Attitude era became stale thats why. Week after week of table matches, hardcore bouts, and Rock serving the role of Cena, we became tired of it.
WWE had to tone things down again so we cared for the big "spots", and it has taken a few years to once again crave the "fresh" attitude era, which we havent been exposed to in awhile.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 16:24:43 GMT -5
how damn old is this? hes talking about music videos on MTV for god sakes
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Apr 29, 2009 16:28:53 GMT -5
I still honestly believe Vince would have preferred to have beaten WCW 'his way' with all the cartoony characters we saw from the mid 80s through the mid 90s. Fortunately now they are SO big they can go back to that and in spite of sagging ratings and PPV buys they continue to make a shed load of money.
Personally I really wish they'd go back to the more R rated stuff, a lot of what they show today I simply can not watch with friends in spite of the often high quality matches.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Apr 29, 2009 16:51:53 GMT -5
Since when is Vince ever honest?
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Post by neilfrazier on Apr 29, 2009 16:57:15 GMT -5
Personally I really wish they'd go back to the more R rated stuff, a lot of what they show today I simply can not watch with friends in spite of the often high quality matches. Very true, for awhile it was a good thing to admit you are a fan of wrestling. Now it's back to being for backwater folk in the mainstream's view. |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Apr 30, 2009 19:05:31 GMT -5
Haha, I love how he mentioned "borrowing" from King of the Hill. I wonder what they could have taken from that show. An announcing team that just goes "yep" and "mhmmm" to everything? Or during a backstage segment Hank and the guys are just standing in the background holding a beer? Ahmed Johnson = Boomhauer? |
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Post by Sonic...SonicTruth on Apr 30, 2009 19:18:54 GMT -5
things move in cycles. Once the attitude era generation's kids get older, they'll want attitude. Vince will give it to them. When those kids have kids, they're gonna want it toned back down. And Vince will give it to them.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 30, 2009 19:25:16 GMT -5
I grew up watching WWF in the eighties, and stopped watching up until the attitude era. I loved the attitude era, and I still like to watch those shows or the old school ECW matches. However I have kids now, and I don't want them to watch that stuff. Like a poster said Vince realizes that the crowd that was watching then, grew up and have kids. While some of us still enjoy watching that kind of programming we also have to put our kids first in not letting them grow up watching Sable strip down on Raw, Mark Henry make out with a tranny, or any of the other stuff that went on then. You know, I'm 28 and still don't have kids but I'll add to this at the time of the attitude era I was 18 and my brother was 6...he grew up watching wrestling. I guess it's all what people are ok with their kids seeing. |
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on May 1, 2009 0:49:22 GMT -5
Vince began to change his mind when the UFC and other MMA leagues
clasped a death grip on his precious 18-35 age demograph. Naturally he ran back to the safe havens of childrens programming.
Can't say I blame the poor guy, kids made him famous in the first place. He's not going to change the mind of the old disgruntled fans so he's going to create a new group of fans instead.
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 1, 2009 1:09:46 GMT -5
I don't know why they couldn't have one show out of the 4 or 5 they have now be for older fans. You know, like ECW? That is far from being "E." It's an hour long, it's moving to 10 p.m., and it's on channel 127 where I live. Let's hear some profanity, see some blood, see something get broken, and see some chicks in thong bottoms. You know, like ECW should be/was?
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Post by analyticalkeys on May 1, 2009 6:16:56 GMT -5
It's a trap. He has to suck the kids in first. It doesn't matter what you think, because we all sit here and complain about how bad wrestling has become since the Attitude era, yet we still watch it anyway.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 1, 2009 6:33:24 GMT -5
You know, I'm just fine with WWE the way it is.
And it's nice to see Vince actually talk out of character and talk real life for a change.
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