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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jul 24, 2005 17:37:39 GMT -5
Who do you think, that the wwe has dropped the ball with, can still be pushed into something interesting with the right push?
And who's so stale that they're pretty much stuck jobber for life?
I was thinking about this after reading the Velocity thread. Someone said something about Nunzio and Scotty too Hotty being jobbers.
I think it's still not too late for Nunzio, I just don't see him as jobber status yet. Where as Scotty, well if Frankie Kazarian (who just got there) is making fun of Scotty already ("he still wrestles here? it's been like 8 years") then you know there's a problem.
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Post by Phoenix on Jul 24, 2005 17:40:30 GMT -5
the only way Nunzio could be saved is if the FBI came back
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Post by STMP on Jul 24, 2005 17:41:26 GMT -5
Val Venis is becomming Brooklyn Brawler V.2
Nunzio could be used if the WWE would get behind the cruiserweight division. Just put Tajiri on Smackdown and have a nice Nunzio vs. Super Crazy vs. Tajiri triple threat match.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jul 24, 2005 19:48:31 GMT -5
I will hold out hope for Val since I will admit to being a fan of his. He is a solid worker and could be good in the mid-card helping to set-up feuds for the IC title. I wouldnt mind seeing him get a last run with the belt.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 24, 2005 21:59:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Kazarian totally zinged Scotty last night. It was funny as hell too! Even though Kazarian has only been on Velocity up until now, he's 2-0 and he's gotten some mic time. I think he'll be pushed into the SmackDOwn roster fairly soon.
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Jul 24, 2005 22:35:40 GMT -5
Then like many other people, get fired in about 8 months...
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Post by thehatman on Jul 24, 2005 23:41:30 GMT -5
Anyone is salvageable provided you give me 100% creative control.
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Post by Wheresmy5bucks on Jul 25, 2005 0:02:52 GMT -5
Anyone is salvageable provided you give me 100% creative control. Mark Henry, make him into a viable world champion. |
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Post by kanyoncutter on Jul 25, 2005 0:04:34 GMT -5
Not the boogeyman.
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Post by officeninja on Jul 25, 2005 1:50:31 GMT -5
With a better gimmick, Wright would be fine. Now Mark Henry on the other hand...Jesus Christ, that's impossible. |
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Post by TRMcGillicutty on Jul 25, 2005 2:02:00 GMT -5
I'm afraid that the guy who played Hassan is screwed. I want to see him come back, even if its boring. He doesn't deserve what happened to him.
Maybe he'll show at Summerslam and bring his ski-masked guys and kick the shit out Undertaker. Or I'm just gonna hope.
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Post by Shiori C: WC Blue Moon Poster on Jul 25, 2005 4:51:19 GMT -5
Anyone is salvageable provided you give me 100% creative control. Mark Henry, make him into a viable world champion. Well, Mark Henry's plus-points are thusly: - He's big - He's strong Mark Henry's down-side is thus: - Can't wrestle - Looks crap in a singlet - Fat - Slow So, give him shorts or street clothes. Have him gorilla-press the Big Show and demand a match at Summerslam, saying "Once I beat your lazy ass, I'm coming for you, Cena!". Have him massacre Big Show at Summerslam. Book him as unstoppable. Have him beat two men in handicap matches for fun (preferably some go-nowhere losers). Have him seen as Cena's biggest threat and seen as impossible to slam, even by Big Show. Then, of course, have him FU-ed by Cena. |
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 25, 2005 7:23:43 GMT -5
dupree could be ic champ hes young can work.
but must lose the moustache.
there aint no saving val venis his ass is toast doomed to a life of putting over folk like rob conway
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jul 25, 2005 7:49:12 GMT -5
I'm afraid that the guy who played Hassan is screwed. I want to see him come back, even if its boring. He doesn't deserve what happened to him. Maybe he'll show at Summerslam and bring his ski-masked guys and kick the lots of manure out Undertaker. Or I'm just gonna hope. Well he said he'd never appear on Smackdown last night so maybe he'll stay off Smackdown till Summerslam, beat the bejesus out of Taker and then come back when Smackdown moves from UPN. |
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Post by vampirebadger on Jul 25, 2005 8:27:04 GMT -5
I'm afraid that the guy who played Hassan is screwed. I want to see him come back, even if its boring. He doesn't deserve what happened to him. Maybe he'll show at Summerslam and bring his ski-masked guys and kick the lots of manure out Undertaker. Or I'm just gonna hope. Well he said he'd never appear on Smackdown last night so maybe he'll stay off Smackdown till Summerslam, beat the bejesus out of Taker and then come back when Smackdown moves from UPN. the way they were talking about his injuries last night makes me think he wont be back for quite a while let alone 4 weeks. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 25, 2005 9:50:57 GMT -5
Look, Austin went from the Ringmaster to the biggest star in wrestling. Batista went from the Deacon to world champ. I think almost anyone can get over with the right time and gimmick. The problem is, coming up with the right gimmick is damn near impossible.
A guy like Mark Henry? Uh, I'm shirt out of ideas.
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Post by Shiori C: WC Blue Moon Poster on Jul 25, 2005 10:35:46 GMT -5
Interesting point here, actually: both Batista and Austin were saddled with lame gimmicks, changed them to more or less their REAL personalities, and waddya know? World Champions both. You could say the same for Rock or Cena.
Of course, this doesn't always work- after all, Orton is more or less playing out his real-life personality and he's a reet obnoxious arse, while if Kidman, London or Benjamin are playing their real personalities, their dinner conversations must be a riot- but it seems to suggest that being yourself, more or less, is a far better idea in the long run than playing somebody you're not.
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Post by scbg on Jul 25, 2005 11:29:46 GMT -5
Nunzio would work best in a leadership role, which is why I liked the WWE's FBI so much. Give him a couple of goons to work with. And please, stop switching him between face and heel every three months.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2005 12:03:44 GMT -5
Val needs a gimmick people can latch onto. Whenever I see him in the ring, I don't know if he's a porn star, Chief Morley or what-have-you.
I know he works hard and all that...but he needs some type of character we can get behind besides <gasp> his wrestling ability.
Scotty's bit is long in the tooth. I'd like to see him become "normal" again, then challenge John Cena. It could work.
Nunzio...I like him for some reason.
Now, Orlando Jordan. There's no hope for him.
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Post by STMP on Jul 25, 2005 12:33:35 GMT -5
Scotty needs a gimmick change. He has had the same gimmick for the last 5 years. And after Grandmaster was fired there wasn't much left for him to do anyway.
And at this moment, any gimmick change is good for Scotty. He just needs something different.
Mark Henry is perfect for a bodyguard role. If he could change his finisher, to something more impressive than a bodyslam, he could get over. But he is in no way a credible mid-carder. Just get him to be Christian's bodyguard or perhaps someones lackey. Henry seems to be a loveable guy, so he could play a great underdog (the loveable idiot). He did it before with D-Lo.
Val Venis is a talented wrestler, but he had a crappy gimmick from the start. After that, he did have a nice run with Trish Stratus and a memorable match with Rikishi. So there could be hope for him. He just needs to get his face on tv again in matches that are longer than 2 minutes. But another problem is that he doesn't stand out in this day and age of Johnny Generics.
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