Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 23, 2005 3:27:26 GMT -5
same deal as last time.
I read the Raw thread. Man you guy's are anal dude. I like doing this afterwards cause it gives you guys time to cool down and look at the bigger picture instead of reacting on instinct and posting something stupid.
First off, Chavo/kerwin didn't say "Shelton lost because he was black" or something super racist, he said something along the lines of "I'm here to say what you're all thinking, but too scared to say what you all are thinking... All of you guys gave Shelton what he deserved 'a polite applause' cause let's face middle class americ is rampant with Racism" and then goes on to praise him as a an excellent athlete. Then he goes on to say Shelton will never be one of us, cause he's not white. In other words he's playing "look in the mirror, you're all racists" character. haven't you noticed his whole gimmick is making fun of white people?
Cena/Jericho: good match. You knew Jericho was leaving, he wasn't going to win, and yet you're still pissed that Cena went over. No one mentioned that first FU was awesome, and that it was a good match. Yeah he kicked out of a Brass knuckle shot, first time some one kicked out of one of those, or a chair shot, or a belt shot in a main event match where the championship was on the line.
Masters/HBK: YOu guys are all screaming about pushing up and comers. Some people like Masters, some of us think he has potential. And you're mad Shawn Micheals is working with an Up and comer who could use someone who can really make him look great? Think of it this way, you can have great matches with those 4 guys (Y2j, Hbk, Angle, and Benjamin) and have like 2 good matches, or use those 4 guys to carry 4 other guys and have 4 good matches (Or more when you rotate them).
Edge/Matt: Standard booking, D******** jerk kicks the good guy's ass, good guy keeps coming back for more. If matt kicked Edge's ass on the first day, they couldn't milk this. They explained that Matt was still messed up from yesterday which is why Conway got the W, and Edge beat down matt while he was down, he made the comeback, and Edge crushed his skull in a cool looking spot.
Torrie/Candace: I like Candace, but I can't believe they took STacy (who was doing something, and was part of a group, and is better than Torrie in the ring) and Christy (who is learning to wrestle, and working with Victoria on the house show circuit to get better, who's going to show her the ropes on smackdown?) and stuck them on TnA wasteland that is Smackdown (unless my theory pans out and a women's division is made on Smackdown with hall, perez, McCool and those two). At least Trish doesn't have to do another carry job with Ashley, but Ashley's not going to get better working with Torrie instead of Trish.
PmS? man you guys are quick to label stuff quick.
Yes Jericho's exit leaves much to be desired, but he'll be back. He's on Hiatus people, what part of that did you not understand? He said on the WWe website that he's not going anywhere, even if he just signed an extension. But that transitional from Y2J to Angle was great.
I personally loved this Raw. I am surprised that they gave away Benjamin/Angle for free, but They do need to work on Shelton, People'll pay for it now that they know how good it could be. I wouldn't mind a Series or "classics" fued of them just wrestling for a couple months instead of waiting months on end for one match.
It's not like Brock/Kurt where there could be some serious money to be made in the main event. Brock had the background as well as looking like a friggin monster compared to Kurt.
And that HBK promo: he just walked out and people cheered him. Did you expect to do a complete 180 and go "Hogan is great, Hogan kicked my ass" after weeks of "you're a complete joke" "you can't do anything but pose down" and completely crapping all over in ring performances for weeks on end? And the promo with Masters, he was clearly the face, but even though the audience was cheering him, that promo reeked of heeldom. He's either doing "a slow transition" back to face, he's maintaining continuity by being a face who still has beef with his last face opponent, he's subtley setting up a nice face turn for Masters.
Watch the language when you type your post. -Dorf
I read the Raw thread. Man you guy's are anal dude. I like doing this afterwards cause it gives you guys time to cool down and look at the bigger picture instead of reacting on instinct and posting something stupid.
First off, Chavo/kerwin didn't say "Shelton lost because he was black" or something super racist, he said something along the lines of "I'm here to say what you're all thinking, but too scared to say what you all are thinking... All of you guys gave Shelton what he deserved 'a polite applause' cause let's face middle class americ is rampant with Racism" and then goes on to praise him as a an excellent athlete. Then he goes on to say Shelton will never be one of us, cause he's not white. In other words he's playing "look in the mirror, you're all racists" character. haven't you noticed his whole gimmick is making fun of white people?
Cena/Jericho: good match. You knew Jericho was leaving, he wasn't going to win, and yet you're still pissed that Cena went over. No one mentioned that first FU was awesome, and that it was a good match. Yeah he kicked out of a Brass knuckle shot, first time some one kicked out of one of those, or a chair shot, or a belt shot in a main event match where the championship was on the line.
Masters/HBK: YOu guys are all screaming about pushing up and comers. Some people like Masters, some of us think he has potential. And you're mad Shawn Micheals is working with an Up and comer who could use someone who can really make him look great? Think of it this way, you can have great matches with those 4 guys (Y2j, Hbk, Angle, and Benjamin) and have like 2 good matches, or use those 4 guys to carry 4 other guys and have 4 good matches (Or more when you rotate them).
Edge/Matt: Standard booking, D******** jerk kicks the good guy's ass, good guy keeps coming back for more. If matt kicked Edge's ass on the first day, they couldn't milk this. They explained that Matt was still messed up from yesterday which is why Conway got the W, and Edge beat down matt while he was down, he made the comeback, and Edge crushed his skull in a cool looking spot.
Torrie/Candace: I like Candace, but I can't believe they took STacy (who was doing something, and was part of a group, and is better than Torrie in the ring) and Christy (who is learning to wrestle, and working with Victoria on the house show circuit to get better, who's going to show her the ropes on smackdown?) and stuck them on TnA wasteland that is Smackdown (unless my theory pans out and a women's division is made on Smackdown with hall, perez, McCool and those two). At least Trish doesn't have to do another carry job with Ashley, but Ashley's not going to get better working with Torrie instead of Trish.
PmS? man you guys are quick to label stuff quick.
Yes Jericho's exit leaves much to be desired, but he'll be back. He's on Hiatus people, what part of that did you not understand? He said on the WWe website that he's not going anywhere, even if he just signed an extension. But that transitional from Y2J to Angle was great.
I personally loved this Raw. I am surprised that they gave away Benjamin/Angle for free, but They do need to work on Shelton, People'll pay for it now that they know how good it could be. I wouldn't mind a Series or "classics" fued of them just wrestling for a couple months instead of waiting months on end for one match.
It's not like Brock/Kurt where there could be some serious money to be made in the main event. Brock had the background as well as looking like a friggin monster compared to Kurt.
And that HBK promo: he just walked out and people cheered him. Did you expect to do a complete 180 and go "Hogan is great, Hogan kicked my ass" after weeks of "you're a complete joke" "you can't do anything but pose down" and completely crapping all over in ring performances for weeks on end? And the promo with Masters, he was clearly the face, but even though the audience was cheering him, that promo reeked of heeldom. He's either doing "a slow transition" back to face, he's maintaining continuity by being a face who still has beef with his last face opponent, he's subtley setting up a nice face turn for Masters.
Watch the language when you type your post. -Dorf
