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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 6, 2009 16:52:17 GMT -5
The story with Adrian that I read was the he was so smart he was able to tap into the motor function part of his brain and could make himself faster and stronger just by thinking about it, hence why he was able to gorilla press a 280lb man. I dig this theory. Comedian, I have no clue. So, Ozymandias just thinks himself stronger!? AWESOME! And does that mean, at least in WWE canon, that Hulk Hogan was the smartest man who ever lived?
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Post by The Tank on Aug 6, 2009 17:05:46 GMT -5
So, Ozymandias just thinks himself stronger!? AWESOME! And does that mean, at least in WWE canon, that Hulk Hogan was the smartest man who ever lived? No, have you ever read Hulkamania? Hulk Hogan doesn't think himself stronger. He BELIEVES himself stronger.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 6, 2009 17:15:42 GMT -5
And does that mean, at least in WWE canon, that Hulk Hogan was the smartest man who ever lived? No, have you ever read Hulkamania? Hulk Hogan doesn't think himself stronger. He BELIEVES himself stronger. Yeah, he's a Paladin.
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 6, 2009 17:20:33 GMT -5
It's funny, but when a couple of my friends (who haven't read the graphic novel) were watching the movie, they were both rooting for Rorschach to kick the hell out of Veidt. They were of the opinion that Rorschach was "like Batman" and "should be able to kick the hell out of the wimpy blonde". I had to laugh out loud at BOTH of those statements. What did they say when Veidt put the boots to Rorschach?
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Post by Rorschach on Aug 6, 2009 17:49:02 GMT -5
It's funny, but when a couple of my friends (who haven't read the graphic novel) were watching the movie, they were both rooting for Rorschach to kick the hell out of Veidt. They were of the opinion that Rorschach was "like Batman" and "should be able to kick the hell out of the wimpy blonde". I had to laugh out loud at BOTH of those statements. What did they say when Veidt put the boots to Rorschach? Both on them LOUDLY called "BS" and one of them said something to the extent of "Well, how come Rorschach could kill all those inmates at the prison, but this one skinny blonde guy is literally owning him?" I then had to explain quite a few things to them, mainly how Rorschach doesn't kill that many inmates, and how Adrian Veidt is a THOUSAND times the athlete that the prison bums are, or for that matter, Rorschach is. I told them it would be like Chuck Liddell ('Schach) taking on the most pure athlete that science could create in a fistfight. Sure, Liddell is very dangerous, and can kick the snot out of average men...but you put him in there with someone who is maxed out in speed, strength, and agility....and just like Rorschach, Chuck doesn't have a chance.
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Post by Grendel on Aug 6, 2009 18:06:11 GMT -5
No, have you ever read Hulkamania? Hulk Hogan doesn't think himself stronger. He BELIEVES himself stronger. Yeah, he's a Paladin. Now I'm gonna have to refrain from making my WOW Pally look like Hulk Hogan ...
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 6, 2009 18:25:34 GMT -5
What did they say when Veidt put the boots to Rorschach? Both on them LOUDLY called "BS" and one of them said something to the extent of "Well, how come Rorschach could kill all those inmates at the prison, but this one skinny blonde guy is literally owning him?" I then had to explain quite a few things to them, mainly how Rorschach doesn't kill that many inmates, and how Adrian Veidt is a THOUSAND times the athlete that the prison bums are, or for that matter, Rorschach is. I told them it would be like Chuck Liddell ('Schach) taking on the most pure athlete that science could create in a fistfight. Sure, Liddell is very dangerous, and can kick the snot out of average men...but you put him in there with someone who is maxed out in speed, strength, and agility....and just like Rorschach, Chuck doesn't have a chance. Ha, gotta love that scene.
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Post by Rorschach on Aug 6, 2009 20:42:18 GMT -5
Both on them LOUDLY called "BS" and one of them said something to the extent of "Well, how come Rorschach could kill all those inmates at the prison, but this one skinny blonde guy is literally owning him?" I then had to explain quite a few things to them, mainly how Rorschach doesn't kill that many inmates, and how Adrian Veidt is a THOUSAND times the athlete that the prison bums are, or for that matter, Rorschach is. I told them it would be like Chuck Liddell ('Schach) taking on the most pure athlete that science could create in a fistfight. Sure, Liddell is very dangerous, and can kick the snot out of average men...but you put him in there with someone who is maxed out in speed, strength, and agility....and just like Rorschach, Chuck doesn't have a chance. Ha, gotta love that scene. Rorsch-OWNED. ;D What I love about that is that Nite Owl is just calmly watching his former partner get his ass handed to him on a silver platter. Not doing anything...not trying to help out, not trying to simultaneously attack Veidt....just chillin' while 'Schach gets beat down.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Aug 6, 2009 21:32:10 GMT -5
Ha, gotta love that scene. Rorsch-OWNED. ;D What I love about that is that Nite Owl is just calmly watching his former partner get his ass handed to him on a silver platter. Not doing anything...not trying to help out, not trying to simultaneously attack Veidt....just chillin' while 'Schach gets beat down. I think what you mean is OWN-zymendias.
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Post by Rorschach on Aug 6, 2009 22:22:52 GMT -5
I think you're right! ;D
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 6, 2009 22:26:37 GMT -5
My friend made a lot of jokes about how Veidt put on the costume even though he didn't really need to. I just told him that, best I could figure, he wanted to play hero one last time, since his plans would possibly mean he wouldn't get the chance again. That, or he wears that around his house a lot. When Specter and Nite Owl left, my friend then made fun of Veidt's forlorn look as they left, saying it looked like a kid who caused his friends to leave a party or sleepover early with a really ill advised dirty joke. That I found much harder to counter. ;D
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 7, 2009 14:13:30 GMT -5
That fight scene was a weird part.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 7, 2009 14:25:26 GMT -5
Ha, gotta love that scene. Rorsch-OWNED. ;D What I love about that is that Nite Owl is just calmly watching his former partner get his ass handed to him on a silver platter. Not doing anything...not trying to help out, not trying to simultaneously attack Veidt....just chillin' while 'Schach gets beat down. Wasn't that how it was in the novel? Nite Owl is talking with Ozy, thinking it's one big elaborate punk'd episode ("What? You killed The Comedian? Yeah, right. Staged your assassination attempt? You joker! Staged a fake alien abduction, killed 1/3 of New York, in an attempt to get world peace? Oh, you. Get dressed and we'll go to a titty bar!") , as Rorschach is still doing the "No Compromise" thing an attacking at random intervals?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 7, 2009 14:38:07 GMT -5
Rorsch-OWNED. ;D What I love about that is that Nite Owl is just calmly watching his former partner get his ass handed to him on a silver platter. Not doing anything...not trying to help out, not trying to simultaneously attack Veidt....just chillin' while 'Schach gets beat down. Wasn't that how it was in the novel? Nite Owl is talking with Ozy, thinking it's one big elaborate punk'd episode ("What? You killed The Comedian? Yeah, right. Staged your assassination attempt? You joker! Staged a fake alien abduction, killed 1/3 of New York, in an attempt to get world peace? Oh, you. Get dressed and we'll go to a titty bar!") , as Rorschach is still doing the "No Compromise" thing an attacking at random intervals? I think a lot of it was that he was just aware he was outmatched, also.
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Post by knightrider01 on Aug 7, 2009 14:50:31 GMT -5
I just recently re read the book and I realized something Rorscach is kind of a dumbass. I mean Nite Owl is the one to figure what is really going on by realizing that there is no mask killer but a bigger conspiracy, and eventually that Veidt was behind it.
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Post by Rorschach on Aug 7, 2009 16:05:32 GMT -5
I just recently re read the book and I realized something Rorscach is kind of a dumbass. I mean Nite Owl is the one to figure what is really going on by realizing that there is no mask killer but a bigger conspiracy, and eventually that Veidt was behind it. Not dumbass...just hardheaded and freakin' OBSESSED with running down one single thread of the plot, without deviation. It doesn't matter what evidence there is to the contrary, he's going to MAKE it fit his hypothesis. Hence, his absolute shattered mental state once he learns the truth.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 7, 2009 16:22:39 GMT -5
So I just watched it for the first time and to be honest I thought it was boring.
My question is, what scenes are not in the theatrical cut that appear in the directors cut?
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