Kevin Nash explains the Fingerpoke of Doom

[Stab Sword]

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[Ben Wyatt]

Dec 5, 2008 8:05:16 GMT -5 Stab Sword said:

www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/NWO%2BNitro/video/x3fns6_kevin-nash-shoot-re-fingerpoke-of-d_sport

You know, weather or not you fully believe Nash, the guy makes great arguments.

[Ultimo Chocula]

Nash, laying down for Hogan was not the reason why I was pissed, ok? I was pissed because it was bad TV.

[Bub (BLM)]

I never really understood the hate for the fingerpoke of doom. It was designed to make you hate Nash and Hogan's guts. I thought it was great heel booking. *shrug*

[bretclark]

When a World title is on the line, it's suppose to be made a big deal out of it. The fingerpoke of doom just brought the level of prestige down for the title. Plus it hurt the Wolfpacs concept of being the cooler nWo.

- bretclark

[Andrew is Good]

I felt it was bad because, at that point, the nWo had already built up enough heat. They built and built and built, and rarely gave any sort of comeback to the babyfaces (which is ok, but they still have to make a comeback). It would have been good heel booking, if it was done a little earlier. It was too late to be getting that kind of heat, or they should have started a new angle, and then got heat with that.

It's like in a match. The heel gets his heat, and it builds towards the comeback. But, if the heel doesn't give the babyface a comeback, then you screw the babyface over completely. It makes them look bad to not get some sort of comeback during a match. Now I'm not saying, every match must follow a certain formula, but in the case with the nWo, the babyfaces needed a good comeback and then build to the heat again, which the nWo rarely gave their babyfaces I felt.

Ric Flair talked about the angle where Nash, Syxx, Konnan and Buff Bagwell impersonated the Four Horsemen. Flair and the Horsemen never got a comeback at all, so basically you're just burying the babyface for the sake of burying the babyface. It was different with the DX imitation, as Owen Hart went nuts on Jason Sensation, beat him up, and threw him in the sharpshooter. That's the heel getting heat back on the babyface after the babyface humiliated the heel.

I wanted TNA to do a rehash of the fingerpoke of doom to get the X-Division belt off of Samoa Joe. When Alex Shelley was with Nash, and Nash was doing that deal with the X-Division, they should have had Nash challenge for the X-Division Title, and Shelley challenge for it as well. Triple Threat for the title, Shelley pokes Nash, pins Nash, becomes the X-Division Champion and Joe keeps his gimmick at the time of not being pinned. That would have been a good place to put it.

[Big Daddy Bad Booking]

This was pretty much the bullet that struck Nitro in the heart during the War.

[HMARK Center]

The Fingerpoke is a weird moment for me.

I had only gotten back into wrestling full-time in early 1998, and I much preferred nWo Hollywood to the Wolfpac. So, really, watching the two sides reunite actually made me happy. I hated the face Wolfpac, so turning them heel made me cheer.

That said, had I gotten back into wrestling earlier, like more around the time the nWo originally started, then I could imagine that I would've been sick of them constantly getting the upper hand all the time. Had I been following WCW from mid 1996 on, I likely would've been one of the fans going "Here we go again...things are never going to change."

Years later, that's what happened to me when I tried to get back into watching WWE, in 2004. I would watch Raw each week, was thrilled when Benoit won the belt, "meh" about Orton winning it, then annoyed that Trips won it back, but I still watched.

But when they had Benoit and Edge win the title from Trips, only to have Hunter win it back a week later at the Elimination Chamber, that was my "Fingerpoke" moment with WWE. I basically figured "Here we go again, it's never going to change."

In summary: at the time, I liked it, but I can see why people who had been watching longer than I had would hate it.

[ultimatekennedy]

It is a good argument but by that time some people will say that the nWo needed some major comeuppance and they hadn't gotten it yet.

PLUS how many main events to the biggest PPV that you run has the heel going over the babyface? It's probably happened before but really, it shouldn't happen.

[eDemento2099]

NO! Shut up, you fat, bald-headed little oaf! A barn-burner it won't be...

[greeby]

Funny how most of his explanations revolve around him getting out of doing anything

[lildude8218]

I loved it. I hated when they broke up the nWo, so to find out that they were all in on it together it made me very happy.

[strykerdarksilence]

Dec 6, 2008 4:37:54 GMT -5 greeby said:

Funny how most of his explanations revolve around him getting out of doing anything

Precisely.

[Chuckie Finster]

Nash has his timetables screwed up. Goldberg put his arm through a limo the year after that when the nWo 2000 was around with Hart, Nash, Hall and Jarrett.

That really screws up Nash's argument. The Fingerpoke finish would have payed off in the end if they booked Goldberg to fight the nWo and Hogan after that, not have him blow-off the short feud with Hall, then feud with Bam Bam Bigelow and then beat Nash at Spring Stampede. Hogan feuded with Flair after that and lost the World Title to him and the nWo kind of disintegrated after that.

[efarns]

I noticed he doesn't answer the questions about it. He tells what happened, but he doesn't try to tell why it was such a great idea.

[HMARK Center]

Dec 6, 2008 2:13:10 GMT -5 ultimatekennedy said:

It is a good argument but by that time some people will say that the nWo needed some major comeuppance and they hadn't gotten it yet.

PLUS how many main events to the biggest PPV that you run has the heel going over the babyface? It's probably happened before but really, it shouldn't happen.

Nash and Goldberg were both faces at the time, probably the two most over faces in the company.

[prodigy]

Seems like a logical plan if it worked out that way. Have Goldberg get screwed out of the belt, make the crowd hate the nWo even more, and then have Bill go through all of them to win the belt back. Really, there was nothing more Goldberg could have done from a booking standpoint. To keep a character like that fresh, you have to do things like the Fingerpoke so that fans pay to see the good guy win.

I didn't have a problem with it either. I was a huge nWo fan since it began and never really cared about the Wolfpac.

[Hiroshi Hase]

Bill was starting to go through the nWo guys, he got even with Hall at the Souled Out PPV defeating him in the tazer/ladder match. Then it just kinda fizzled out shortly thereafter as Flair became the top face of WCW to take on the nWo.

[ultimatekennedy]

Dec 6, 2008 10:51:52 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Dec 6, 2008 2:13:10 GMT -5 ultimatekennedy said:

It is a good argument but by that time some people will say that the nWo needed some major comeuppance and they hadn't gotten it yet.

PLUS how many main events to the biggest PPV that you run has the heel going over the babyface? It's probably happened before but really, it shouldn't happen.

Nash and Goldberg were both faces at the time, probably the two most over faces in the company.

Oops. I have it stuck in my mind that Hash is always a villain

[tigermaskxxxvii]

I'm a big fan of the line "we did everything to him but have Oswald shoot him from the school book depository"