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Post by Judas Heyman on Jan 9, 2009 6:16:30 GMT -5
Were the WWF creative trying to create their own Taz by giving a similar gimmick and kinda similar haircut. The only funny thing I find is that instead of giving him a submission move as his finisher they gave him a Vader Splash move.  Godfather was a successful gimmick as it was the attitude era, but to me Kama Mustafa was a joke as he had no qualities of a shoot fighter. If only they would've brought Papa Shango back..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 6:28:10 GMT -5
I don't think so. The gimmicks debuted really, really close to each other, at around January-Feburary 1995. Taz was still doing the Tazmaniac gimmick at the begging of the year while Kama debuted in January. Even if the Taz shooter gimmick started first (and Taz was still teaming with Sabu until February), WWE would have had a month at most to see it, get impressed by it, and then copy it and Taz, quite frankly, didn't hit his stride with the gimmick for a couple of months yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 8:03:58 GMT -5
I still say WWE should Break up Cryme Tyme and give Shad this Gimmick look at The dude's wiki for what its worth
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Post by Big BosskMan on Jan 9, 2009 8:13:47 GMT -5
Hardly. Kama Mustafa (while big) did nothing to strike fear in me. he looked like a big goof trying to act like a shoot fighter.
On the other hand, ECW's Taz scared the crap out of me. Much of that had to do with the way he was booked with all of the head-drop suplexes and variations, combined with his look and ultra PO'd attitude. That black towel on his head was like an executioner's hood.
He really got momentum when managed by Fonzie and the whole "path of rage" build to his showdown with Sabu.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 9, 2009 8:26:53 GMT -5
If only they would've brought Papa Shango back..... Are you kidding me? |
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Post by Judas Heyman on Jan 9, 2009 9:15:07 GMT -5
If only they would've brought Papa Shango back..... Are you kidding me? Lolz ;D |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 9, 2009 12:02:43 GMT -5
I doubt it. I think they were both just trying to cash in on the success of the UFC becoming a big underground hit.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Jan 9, 2009 12:13:22 GMT -5
KAMA actually stood for Kick Any Mans Ass, so they were just doing a lame shoot fighter gimmick.
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Post by Single H on Jan 9, 2009 12:29:43 GMT -5
Like the poster above said. I think they were just trying to cash in on the success the UFC had started to recive at the time. Kama was a lame and boring gimmick though and as his main feud in 1995 was with The Undertaker (as part of the Million Dollar Cooperation) I feel they would have been much better bringing the Papa Shango character back rather than trying this lame and boring gimmick out. He also had no mic skills at that time (what we did see of him on the mic) either.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jan 9, 2009 18:09:51 GMT -5
Taz would choke Kama out in 30 seconds flat.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 9, 2009 18:11:31 GMT -5
Were the WWF creative trying to create their own Taz by giving a similar gimmick and kinda similar haircut. The only funny thing I find is that instead of giving him a submission move as his finisher they gave him a Vader Splash move. Godfather was a successful gimmick as it was the attitude era, but to me Kama Mustafa was a joke as he had no qualities of a shoot fighter. If only they would've brought Papa Shango back..... he was the supreme fighting machine, it's not like TAZ to me at all. Kama was a kickboxer who used his martial arts kicks and strikes to takedown his opponents. Which you know is true, he is legit trained in Kick Boxing I met KAMA and person, and the dude is large. |
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jan 10, 2009 0:50:53 GMT -5
As everyone else has said both Kama and Taz were both characters influenced by the then cult sensation UFC. Actually in ECW they even went as far as to pit Taz up against UFC 7 finalist Paul Varelans in a "worked shoot match".
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Post by salsashark on Jan 10, 2009 1:56:22 GMT -5
I guess I am the only one that loved Kama and thought it was an IC Champ worthy gimmick. Amazing gimmick that got left behind.
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Post by bretclark on Jan 10, 2009 5:49:19 GMT -5
Hardly. Kama Mustafa (while big) did nothing to strike fear in me. he looked like a big goof trying to act like a shoot fighter. On the other hand, ECW's Taz scared the crap out of me. Much of that had to do with the way he was booked with all of the head-drop suplexes and variations, combined with his look and ultra PO'd attitude. That black towel on his head was like an executioner's hood. He really got momentum when managed by Fonzie and the whole "path of rage" build to his showdown with Sabu. "BEAT ME IF YOU CAN, SURVIVE, IF I LET YOU!!!" and with those words, Taz goes on to become a wrestling legend. This reply pretty much sums up what I would have said to this post, thank you pushkilla15. - bretclark |
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 10, 2009 17:01:48 GMT -5
As everyone else has said both Kama and Taz were both characters influenced by the then cult sensation UFC. Actually in ECW they even went as far as to pit Taz up against UFC 7 finalist Paul Varelans in a "worked shoot match". Varelans got paid A HEFTY sum for that |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 10, 2009 19:49:33 GMT -5
As everyone else has said both Kama and Taz were both characters influenced by the then cult sensation UFC. Actually in ECW they even went as far as to pit Taz up against UFC 7 finalist Paul Varelans in a "worked shoot match". Varelans got paid A HEFTY sum for that But I heard Missy Hyatt claimed she'd bang him if he went along with it, and then totally didn't! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 0:17:34 GMT -5
Varelans got paid A HEFTY sum for that But I heard Missy Hyatt claimed she'd bang him if he went along with it, and then totally didn't! Paul Varelans was luckier than he probably knows. |
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