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Post by whitemike1986 on Jan 18, 2009 8:57:31 GMT -5
1. Less emphasis on promos and backstage. 2. More emphasis on the wrestling. 3. Fire the commentators Mike Tenay and Don West. 4. Replace said commentators with Paul Heyman and Mick Foley. 5. Fire nearly every booker, especially Vince Russo. 6. Replace them with Paul Heyman, Mick Foley, Gabe Sapolsky, Dave Lagana, and bring Scott D'amore back. 7. Hire Elijah Burke and heavily push him. 8. Hire Sean Morley and D'Lo Brown. 9. Hire better cameramen. 10. If ROH's TV deal doesn't turn out so well, TNA should negotiate with ROH to become partners, not unlike the WWF/ECW deal in 1997. 11. In addition, negotiate with CZW and other popular independent organizations. 12. Don't put all eggs in one basket; it seems TNA tends to use their booking skills quite lazily when it comes to Impact!, but tend to book rather well on their PPVs 13. If possible, hire better composers for the entrances.
While it still wouldn't beat WWE, it could possibly cut into the WWE's niche.
As it stands now, TNA: Impact! is just a poor man's WWE rather a great alternative; it's pretty disappointing Impact! wastes the opportunity to show a wealth of matches by overrunning its time with crappy promos and angles. While WWE has plenty of crap as well, at least the mix of wrestling and promos tend to feel polished.
TNA: Impact! just feels very sloppily put together to me; it deserves better.
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Post by angryfan on Jan 18, 2009 9:56:12 GMT -5
Whether TNA's goal is to simply be a success, or it is to "beat" WWE, the policy should be the same. Define their own identity, provide a product that is not only interesting, but different. Give a different show, not simply the same show with different performers.
I have lambasted TNA many times, and will continue to do so when I see them making the same mistakes others have made, and there being no particular desire to change that.
Look at it from a sports analogy. If I go out and sign a ton of big money free agents, under the premise that these name guys will help me win more games than a bunch of kids from the farm system, then by all rights, for it to be a a "good investment", I damn well better start seeing wins on the board. If, however, I sign these guys to big money, and the wins don't increase, attendence doesn't increase, and everything remains more or less steady, do I scream about everything going "according to plan"?
No, I don't. What I say is, well, I am pleased that things are remaining stable, and there is no fall-off from the past performance. However, if I am paying X amount to these guys I brought in, and seeing no change, then that part of the investment was a dismal failure.
This is the problem I see with TNA. They seem determined to take what has been tried in the past, whether it worked or not, and force it to work simply by throwing "name guys" at it.
Yes, there are no "new" ideas, only re-emagined ones, as the old line about writing goes, but to say that, we must find a formula then stick with it (bring in guy who is established form elsewhere, push them and make them seem far superior to those already here, rinse, repeat) is not showing any kind of consistant growth.
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Post by Jared Jammer on Jan 18, 2009 11:56:53 GMT -5
Wrestling only sells if it has the storylines that make people care about the actual in-ring product. I can't believe how many people can't get this FACT through their heads. You can't put on five 20 minutes matches every week and expect people to watch your show. Guys like Sabin giving us one decent 10 minute match a week is fine. Anything more than that and the ratings will plummet.
As for what it would take for TNA to beat the WWE? Money, money, and more money.[/thread]
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Post by mrjl on Jan 18, 2009 12:22:13 GMT -5
For a serious answer, the only way TNA will ever beat WWE will be for WWE to become huge again. Sounds weird huh? Here's why... WWE's big boom from 98-01 came in large part due to an increased viewership in their opposition WCW. With all the eyes on wrestling, people kept tabs on WWF as well. Once WCW's product started wain, WWF's was rising and therefore those eyes who were sort of watching WWF were now settled on WWF If WWE's viewership booms again then the increased exposure to wrestling will get eyes on TNA as well. If around the time people get disenchanted with WWE again TNA is an improved product then TNA's viewership could pass WWE. Its a long shot, but thats the only realistic scenario I could see it happening. yeah, I sometimes think that the claim that wrestling has lost like 12 million fans since the boom is over the top since I'm sure a good chuck of the millions both scored in ratings were people watching both shows. It's just a question of how many and how often they switched back and forth.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 18, 2009 13:03:00 GMT -5
1. Hire Snitsky 2. ??? 3. Enjoy success as #1 promotion.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 18, 2009 13:32:51 GMT -5
1. Dinosaur vs Cavemen feud 2. Have the ring made out different materials every week. One week, it's a giant cake. The next, steel I-beams. The next, a hilly meadow. 3. Replace Don West with a waitress from a Southern "greasy spoon" diner. Replace Mike Tenay with a man who believes himself to be a talking donkey.
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Post by Thrillho on Jan 18, 2009 13:56:21 GMT -5
What's a reverse combover? When a guy with a full head of hair makes himself look bald?
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...It's TNA. Therefore, it's possible.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 18, 2009 23:06:00 GMT -5
1.Come up with idea to beat WWE. 2. ? 3. WWE beaten. #2 should read "Implement idea from #1". Now GO TNA. Go like the wind. I believe this was a reference to the underwear gnomes Southpark episode. 1. Steal Underpants 2. ? 3. Money!
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 18, 2009 23:08:40 GMT -5
Best way to beat the WWE? Get off Spike and onto FX and push a much more edgy wrestling product than the WWE, and do what the WWF did to WCW.
1. Create new stars 2. Deliver edgy angles 3. T&A
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 18, 2009 23:20:40 GMT -5
1. Dinosaur vs Cavemen feud You want TNA to hire Hulk Hogan and Mike Knox?
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Post by hollywood on Jan 18, 2009 23:21:47 GMT -5
1) Stop suc...oh hell, this is probably the best bet...
1) Fire Russo 2) Fire Jarrett 3) Tell Dixie Carter to pull her head out of Jarrett's ass and hire some people worth a damn
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Jan 18, 2009 23:32:50 GMT -5
I have 1 and only one.
Pick a direction and go with it and live with it. Go all in. If you're going to be a straight wrestling show-do it. If you're going to be a f***ing comedy/variety show-do it. If you're going to be a WWE knockoff-do it.
They're never going to succeed changing directions every 2 weeks, or doing a hodge podge of them all.
If you go balls to the wall with one thing, you'll either win, go bankrupt, or at least become a successful niche product.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 19, 2009 0:24:01 GMT -5
Don't try.
The likelihood of them supplanting WWE is slim to none with the odds favoring none. But the best part is that they don't have to. Impact isn't competing with WWE, the house show schedule usually is different and the PPV's are on different days. They don't have to try to beat WWE, and that's good because they don't have the brand recognition, history and resources to do it.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jan 19, 2009 0:35:55 GMT -5
1. Fire Russo and Mantel and Replace with 2. Paul Heyman 3. Scott D'amore
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 19, 2009 5:12:21 GMT -5
1. Get a paper plate, 2 pipecleaners(any color will do), 12 inches of string, and a permanent marker
2. Ask your parents if you can use some scissors, the cut two 4 inch lines into the paper plate.
3. Throw all of that crap into the trash, and stop trying to run when you don't even have walking down yet.
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Post by icansleep on Jan 19, 2009 12:30:53 GMT -5
1. 3rd Hour 2. 3rd Hour 3. 3rd Hour
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Post by toodarkmark on Jan 19, 2009 12:37:09 GMT -5
1. Evil foreigner stables 2. Everyone brings an animal to the ring 3. No one has human names, just archetypes
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Jan 19, 2009 13:13:40 GMT -5
1. More X on a pole matches... 2. Bring back career gimmicks circa 1980s 3. keep bringing in past their prime wrestlers to be the main focus of your show and keep them there. WCW did that and see where it got them?
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Post by toodarkmark on Jan 19, 2009 13:30:57 GMT -5
1. More X on a pole matches... 2. Bring back career gimmicks circa 1980s 3. keep bringing in past their prime wrestlers to be the main focus of your show and keep them there. WCW did that and see where it got them? Well WCW was did make 350 million dollars in 1998, when they were doing this. They did mix in guys in their prime, and younger wrestlers. This perception that WCW died because too many old guys were on top is silly. WCW died because of bad management after success, getting nervous about the WWF resurgence and hiring Russo, and eventually after a larger company purchased Time Warner, they didn't want wrestling on their TV. I mean WWE gets 3.0 ratings every week. And WCW was pulling in 3's up until September 2000, and even got up to a 6 rating. So....... they did some stuff right.
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Post by ThatDamnPotato on Jan 19, 2009 13:43:31 GMT -5
1.Come up with idea to beat WWE. 2. ? 3. WWE beaten. So they're nearly there then.
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