Greatest U.S Champ Part 2: WCW Aftermath

[MasonK565]

Hay wassup!? Ok the WWE is in Finals and now it is time to do the WCW bracket and find out who is the greatest in WCW. After this, we do part 3, WCW and WWE together to find the greatest of all-time.
Here is what the bracket looks like:
First Round:
Steve Austin vs One Man Gang
Jim Duggan vs Steve McMichael
Barry Windham vs Lex Luger
DDP vs Roddy Piper
Goldberg vs Lance Storm
Dustin Rhodes vs Kensuke Sasaki
Chris Kanyon vs Shane Douglas
Scott Steiner vs General Rection
Rick Steiner vs Sting
Sid Vicious vs Curt Hennig
Scott Hall vs Bret Hart
Ric Flair vs Magnum T.A
Jeff Jarrett vs Harley Race
David Flair vs Big Van Vader
Konnan vs Ricky Steamboat
Dean Malenko vs Rick Rude

Second Round:
Steve Austin vs Jim Duggan
Barry Windham vs DDP
Lance Storm vs Dustin Rhodes
Shane Douglas vs Scott Steiner
Sting vs Curt Hennig
Scott Hall vs Magnum T.A
Harley Race vs Big Van Vader
Ricky Steamboatvs Rick Rude

Quarterfinals:
Steve Austin vs Barry Windham
Lance Storm vs Scott Steiner
Sting vs Magnum T.A
Big Van Vader vs Rick Rude

Semi-Finals
Steve Austin vs Lance Storm
Magnum T.A vs Rick Rude

Finals:
Lance Storm vs Rick Rude

Now match one:
Steve Austin

Reigns: 2

Days: 240
1st Reign: Beat Dustin Rhodes on December 27, 1993 at
Starrcade. He lost Ricky Steamboat on August 24, 1994 at Clash of the Champions XXVIII
Days: 240

2nd Reign: Was awarded the title September 18, 1994 at Fall Brawl. He lost to Jim Duggan less than five minutes later.
Days: Less than 5 minutes.

Vs

One Man Gang

Reigns: 1

Days: 33

Reign: Beat Kensuki Sasaki on December 27, 1995 at Starrcade. He lost to Konnan on January 29, 1996 at a live event.

First to 4 votes wins!!

[strykerdarksilence]

Prefer OMG, but Austin was the better US champ, so he gets my vote.

What about the NWA US champions?

[MasonK565]

Nov 5, 2009 20:35:33 GMT -5 @strykerdarksilence said:

Prefer OMG, but Austin was the better US champ, so he gets my vote.

What about the NWA US champions?

I was actually going to add that, but then I realized that be 3 brackets and that would lead to a funky structure that would have ended being confusing. I have a feeling im gonna have to bump this down to possibly 3 votes beacuse the WWE section has far more many viewers than here.
If i did do NWA, i had a fear it would end up dying out, which is what im afraid mite happen here. After this, Im puttin the top 8 here with the top 8 in WWE to figure out the best of all time.

[The Possum]

Stunning Steve. That blue chipper.

[JerryvonKramer]

Austin.

And make it NWA/ WCW please. Posters here in (w)Rest will respond to that more if anything.

I also object to Angle (or indeed any other post-take over wrestler) being counted.

And where is the man who should ultimately win this contest as the greatest US champ... RICK RUDE?

[Mayonnaise]

Austin

[MasonK565]

Nov 5, 2009 20:43:29 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

Austin.

And make it NWA/ WCW please. Posters here in (w)Rest will respond to that more if anything.

I also object to Angle (or indeed any other post take over wrestler) being counted.

And where is the man who should ultimately win this contest as the greatest US champ... RICK RUDE?

I know about the Rick Rude aspect, but he was NWA.
I would have put in NWA but the problem is I already have the info ready and everything. I spent a shit load of time on this, and that was also another reason why i didn't do NWA cuz that lead to more of a wierd bracket structure.
But I am not a-hole so i will see about ur requests.
I will probably add it to the WCW bracket if possible.
But then the problem is is that in the WWE there was only 16. Here it is 32, without the NWA. But i will look into this and work on it before the first round is over.

[MasonK565]

Austin wins!
Next Matchup:
Jim Duggan

Reigns: 1

Days: 100

Reign: Beat Steve Austin on September 18, 1994 at Fall Brawl. He lost to Big Van Vader on December 27, 1994 at Starrcade.


vs

Steve McMichael

Reigns: 1

Days: 25

Reign: He beat Jeff Jarrett on August 21, 1997 at Clash of the Champions XXXV. He lost to Curt Hennig on September 15, 1997 on Monday Nitro.

First to 4 votes wins!

[strykerdarksilence]

Duggan. His match with Vader is one of my all time favourites.

[Mayonnaise]

Oh God...ummm....Never mind that shit, here comes Mongo!

[JerryvonKramer]

Nov 5, 2009 20:50:44 GMT -5 MasonK565 said:

Nov 5, 2009 20:43:29 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

Austin.

And make it NWA/ WCW please. Posters here in (w)Rest will respond to that more if anything.

I also object to Angle (or indeed any other post take over wrestler) being counted.

And where is the man who should ultimately win this contest as the greatest US champ... RICK RUDE?

I know about the Rick Rude aspect, but he was NWA.
I would have put in NWA but the problem is I already have the info ready and everything. I spent a s*** load of time on this, and that was also another reason why i didn't do NWA cuz that lead to more of a wierd bracket structure.
But I am not a-hole so i will see about ur requests.
I will probably add it to the WCW bracket if possible.
But then the problem is is that in the WWE there was only 16. Here it is 32, without the NWA. But i will look into this and work on it before the first round is over.

I'll leave it up to you to decide on including NWA people or not, but Rude was a WCW US champ both times.

If you don't include Rude that would pretty much void this whole thing in my book (and I assume many other people's) because when you say "Greatest US" champ, Rude's name is invariably one of the first ones mentioned.

WCW became WCW in 1988 so why is Rude not included? That would also give you Windham and Stan Hansen's runs (as well as Luger's monster run).

I'd say both of those and Rude deserve to be in contention about exactly 100% more than Rhyno, General Reaction, Angle and pretty much most of the people there in terms of what they brought to the US title.

Here's a thread about it if you don't believe me: officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wrestling&action=display&thread=204737

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Duggan

[MasonK565]

Nov 5, 2009 21:06:25 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

Nov 5, 2009 20:50:44 GMT -5 MasonK565 said:

I know about the Rick Rude aspect, but he was NWA.
I would have put in NWA but the problem is I already have the info ready and everything. I spent a s*** load of time on this, and that was also another reason why i didn't do NWA cuz that lead to more of a wierd bracket structure.
But I am not a-hole so i will see about ur requests.
I will probably add it to the WCW bracket if possible.
But then the problem is is that in the WWE there was only 16. Here it is 32, without the NWA. But i will look into this and work on it before the first round is over.

I'll leave it up to you to decide on including NWA people or not, but Rude was a WCW US champ both times.

If you don't include Rude that would pretty much void this whole thing in my book (and I assume many other people's) because when you say "Greatest US" champ, Rude's name is invariably one of the first ones mentioned.

WCW became WCW in 1988 so why is Rude not included? That would also give you Windham and Stan Hansen's runs (as well as Luger's monster run).

I'd say both of those and Rude deserve to be in contention about exactly 100% more than Rhyno, General Reaction, Angle and pretty much most of the people there in terms of what they brought to the US title.

Here's a thread about it if you don't believe me: officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wrestling&action=display&thread=204737

Hay Rick Rude won it under the WCW banner, but WCW was under the NWA still. I agree with you. I am currently working on it. I won't be able to add everyone, but Rick Rude will be in.

[Mayonnaise]

Nov 5, 2009 21:06:25 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

WCW became WCW in 1988 so why is Rude not included?

Actually, WCW did not split from the NWA in terms of title lineage until Sept. 1993.

[JerryvonKramer]

Thanks man. Try to get Windham in too! I can see where you've cut it off and why, but when the winner comes out as like Tajiri or someone anyone if half a clue is just going to say "Rude? Windham? Magnum TA?" ... you know what I mean.

Anyway, I'm gonna say McMichael. Because I just hate Duggan that much. ;D

[MasonK565]

Nov 5, 2009 21:12:46 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Nov 5, 2009 21:06:25 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

WCW became WCW in 1988 so why is Rude not included?

Actually, WCW did not split from the NWA in terms of title lineage until Sept. 1993.

Yes. I was just about to say that. I have shortened the label as Greatest US champ, but what i really mean is Greatest Champ of WCW and WWE. Because yes, leaving out NWA doesn't mean u have the greatest of all time.

By the way i vote duggan, which makes the count 3-2 duggan, all he needs is one more.

[JerryvonKramer]

Nov 5, 2009 21:12:46 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Nov 5, 2009 21:06:25 GMT -5 JerryvonKramer said:

WCW became WCW in 1988 so why is Rude not included?

Actually, WCW did not split from the NWA in terms of title lineage until Sept. 1993.

If you want to get very technical, see this: www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-us-h.html

With NWA no longer operating as an organization, the title exclusively referred to as WCW US Heavyweight Title from 91/01

So it was referred to as the "WCW US title" when Rude had it.

[MasonK565]

Ok I was able to fit in, T.A, Rude, Windham, and Harley Race. And Flairs, Steamboats, Stings, Pipers and Lugers NWA reigns will now count as well. I know im missing a lot, but i tried to keep jsut as much WCW member as well without having to go overboard.

[MasonK565]

3-2 Duggan in the lead . . .

[Tapout]

What the hey? I wasn't a big fan of Duggan's run, but Steve "Mongo" McMichael should never win anything, ever.