Johnny D
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Post by Johnny D on Jul 5, 2009 8:50:38 GMT -5
Call me pessimistic but I can't help but feel when I watched the Hart Dynasty job to Cryme Tyme on Smackdown, they would be much, much more taken seriously as a threat (therefore given a much bigger push than they seem to getting now) if Bret, Anvil, Owen and Davey Boy (even Pillman actually) were still alive and/or able to wrestle. I just feel that they are going to struggle and be made into a joke without them getting a rub from those guys at the least. I hope I'm wrong though, David, Nattie and TJ are all very talented.
/rant over
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Post by manstis1804 on Jul 5, 2009 8:51:11 GMT -5
the original hart foundation started off as a jobber team, they hardly ever won when they were heels.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Jul 5, 2009 8:54:24 GMT -5
Crikey, they've lost one match and all of a sudden it means it shows how much of a push they can expect? Seriously?
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Jul 5, 2009 9:02:26 GMT -5
Lost a tag match!? To the most over real tag team in the WWE!? On free TV!? In a back and forth match!? omgz berried!
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Johnny D
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Post by Johnny D on Jul 5, 2009 9:05:00 GMT -5
the original hart foundation started off as a jobber team, they hardly ever won when they were heels. True, but you never know in this era of WWE Un-creative, etc. (who I have no faith in tbh) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 9:07:24 GMT -5
Sooooo unless Dynasty constantly Squash CT without giving them Any Offense it's a Burial?
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Post by carter 15 on Jul 5, 2009 9:08:29 GMT -5
to be honest, i don't get that feeling at all.
I don't know how far they'll go, but i think it's obvious WWE are pretty high on Davey and Tyson.
Guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Jul 5, 2009 9:09:09 GMT -5
Sooooo unless Dynasty constantly Squash CT without giving them Any Offense it's a Burial? There might be some middle ground there to explore. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 9:13:46 GMT -5
Obviously it's early, but I see no real future for the team. It's comes off as a novelty act.
And the "Hart" persona and style of wrestling doesn't fit in this era.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jul 5, 2009 9:22:29 GMT -5
I don't think they're all that special myself, but this is hardly a burial nor something to feel sad about. Maybe they'll have a rematch the following week and things might look differently, it's possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 9:32:19 GMT -5
Sooooo unless Dynasty constantly Squash CT without giving them Any Offense it's a Burial? There might be some middle ground there to explore. There was with Cryme Tyme winning with a Double Team behind the refs back |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jul 5, 2009 9:40:39 GMT -5
There might be some middle ground there to explore. There was with Cryme Tyme winning with a Double Team behind the refs back True, but isn't that their gimmick to do underhanded things like that? |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 5, 2009 11:17:10 GMT -5
Given the extremely short time they've been a unit, they're doing great, ergo nope, no sadness here.
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 5, 2009 11:33:29 GMT -5
They're pretty talented but I just cant shake the feel that they're just a bunch of kids pretending to be the Hart foundation. (Which is kinda the point, but still
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Post by dimera on Jul 5, 2009 12:56:24 GMT -5
Call me pessimistic but I can't help but feel when I watched the Hart Dynasty job to Cryme Tyme on Smackdown, they would be much, much more taken seriously as a threat (therefore given a much bigger push than they seem to getting now) if Bret, Anvil, Owen and Davey Boy (even Pillman actually) were still alive and/or able to wrestle. I just feel that they are going to struggle and be made into a joke without them getting a rub from those guys at the least. I hope I'm wrong though, David, Nattie and TJ are all very talented. /rant over All I can say is..just wait until next Friday. No more need for gloom and need. |
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Post by manstis1804 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59:48 GMT -5
Obviously it's early, but I see no real future for the team. It's comes off as a novelty act. And the "Hart" persona and style of wrestling doesn't fit in this era. Things are changing, they're part of this new wave and they fit in well. Outside of Raw's main event picture(Cena Orton Triple H Batista Big Show), there is good young talent that can really work all over the place. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 5, 2009 13:18:56 GMT -5
They're pretty talented but I just cant shake the feel that they're just a bunch of kids pretending to be the Hart foundation. (Which is kinda the point, but still I imagine this will be the angle that starts their first big push. They start acting like big shots, some face tells them they aren't even close to the original Hart Foundation, and the Dynasty does something horrible to the face to show they're to be taken seriously. Kind of like in February 1998, when DX told the New Age Outlaws they needed to be seen as more than a couple of wise-cracking jerks. So the Outlaws threw Foley and Funk off the stage in a Dumpster. |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jul 5, 2009 13:27:32 GMT -5
They're pretty talented but I just cant shake the feel that they're just a bunch of kids pretending to be the Hart foundation. (Which is kinda the point, but still I imagine this will be the angle that starts their first big push. They start acting like big shots, some face tells them they aren't even close to the original Hart Foundation, and the Dynasty does something horrible to the face to show they're to be taken seriously. Kind of like in February 1998, when DX told the New Age Outlaws they needed to be seen as more than a couple of wise-cracking jerks. So the Outlaws threw Foley and Funk off the stage in a Dumpster. Are you suggesting The Dynasty throw Batista and Ric Flair in a dumpster? |
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Post by The Tank on Jul 5, 2009 13:42:05 GMT -5
The only thing I feel sad about when watching the Hart Dynasty is that Bret will never make an appearance and put them over with an epic promo.
I know I'm not the only one thinking that's the only way to legitimize them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 14:22:16 GMT -5
It's way way too early to make any solid judgments about them. I like what I see: they're a young, talented tag team in a company that's short on them. They haven't done anything memorable yet, so give them time. It takes a series of storylines to get someone significantly over; I think they're doing quite well. They were a bit rushed to Smackdown! in my opinion, but I hope it turns out well. They are, IMO, miles ahead of Rhodes and Dibiase, who make me much, much more sad when it comes to living up to legacies.
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