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Post by EvilShadow76 on Sept 16, 2005 15:45:05 GMT -5
Really the whole Jericho/Trish/Christian thing didn't make much sense or accomplish much either. Christian is still no better off than when it began in the fall of '03, Jericho pretty much continued to rot away in the midcard, and all it really did do was take months and months to turn a chick heel . And it wasn't even a really good one at that .
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Post by mainsupreme on Sept 16, 2005 15:50:27 GMT -5
There was this match Dude love vs. Austin. It was on the same ppv as the inferno match in '98 (was it unforgiven?) Austin stuns the dude and there's no ref, so Austin HIMSELF counts to 3 and he wins................
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Post by alligatorboy on Sept 16, 2005 15:57:18 GMT -5
In all his time as the Barber, Ed Leisle never actually used his Hedge Clippers in a match, at least then it might have made his matches more interesting The Barber definately did use the hedge clippers on Sherri at Summerslam 1989. She had a long fake braid that he cut. Hate to say I know that as it involves Ed Leslie.
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Post by azza316 on Sept 16, 2005 16:20:48 GMT -5
As someone's already mentioned on here, the whole Ric Flair/HBK teaming really gets on my grill. Especially as I'm sure HBK used to hate Flair back when he was with HHH and Evolution full-time, but again no reference has been made to this recently. Still, hopefully Triple-H will cause some friction with this upon his return.
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Post by Frontne on Sept 16, 2005 16:33:59 GMT -5
I don't really think about storyline plotholes. They're just all around the place so bad that I just suspend disbelief and let it slip.
What I really love to nitpick is the backstage/technical stuff. A few examples:
1) Whenever somebody is ambushed/kidnapped/tortured etc. backstage, why doesn't the cameraman do something? He could help out or at least call the cops or an ambulance. Yet he just stands there.
2) Why is it that whenever the cameras cut to the back, we ironically catch something very important happening at that very moment (i.e. someone getting jumped, badguys discussing their strategy etc.)? Furthermore, wouldn't those plans now be exposed to everyone, including their target? What's the point? 95% of all evil plans would be wasted if their opponents would bother to watch the damn TV.
3) The sound guys backstage must be really evil people. When a face attacked is beaten to a pulp in the ring by a group of bad guys, it still seems appropriate for the sound guys to play their theme music. Also, why do wrestler’s have their music played when they do run ins? Do they really have the time to stop by the sound guy on their way to let them know about it?
4) If the camera catches a wrestler arriving in the middle of the show, doesn't that mean that that person is pretty damn late? Is it really ok in wrestling to arrive to work a hour after the show's started? I wouldn't mind coming to work or school whenever I wanted.
And my ultimate favourite:
Anyone who participates in wrestling and/or has been hired by the WWE doesn't not need to abide by the U.S. legal system and can in fact, do pretty much anything and not get in trouble. A few examples off the top of my head:
nWo: Tried to kill the Rock by ramming a truck at an ambulance they'd put him in. Kane: Regularly destroys people/sets them on fire/does assorted evil things Rikishi: Ran Stone Cold over with a semi. Isn't that attempted vehicular manslaughter?
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Post by djcdm on Sept 16, 2005 17:47:45 GMT -5
I don't really think about storyline plotholes. They're just all around the place so bad that I just suspend disbelief and let it slip. What I really love to nitpick is the backstage/technical stuff. A few examples: 1) Whenever somebody is ambushed/kidnapped/tortured etc. backstage, why doesn't the cameraman do something? He could help out or at least call the cops or an ambulance. Yet he just stands there. 2) Why is it that whenever the cameras cut to the back, we ironically catch something very important happening at that very moment (i.e. someone getting jumped, badguys discussing their strategy etc.)? Furthermore, wouldn't those plans now be exposed to everyone, including their target? What's the point? 95% of all evil plans would be wasted if their opponents would bother to watch the damn TV. 3) The sound guys backstage must be really evil people. When a face attacked is beaten to a pulp in the ring by a group of bad guys, it still seems appropriate for the sound guys to play their theme music. Also, why do wrestler’s have their music played when they do run ins? Do they really have the time to stop by the sound guy on their way to let them know about it? 4) If the camera catches a wrestler arriving in the middle of the show, doesn't that mean that that person is pretty damn late? Is it really ok in wrestling to arrive to work a hour after the show's started? I wouldn't mind coming to work or school whenever I wanted. And my ultimate favourite: Anyone who participates in wrestling and/or has been hired by the WWE doesn't not need to abide by the U.S. legal system and can in fact, do pretty much anything and not get in trouble. A few examples off the top of my head: nWo: Tried to kill the Rock by ramming a truck at an ambulance they'd put him in. Kane: Regularly destroys people/sets them on fire/does assorted evil things Rikishi: Ran Stone Cold over with a semi. Isn't that attempted vehicular manslaughter? Thats funny I was thinking that
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Post by mainsupreme on Sept 16, 2005 18:04:29 GMT -5
No one knows why Austin had the power of a referee against dude love??
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 16, 2005 18:29:08 GMT -5
Actually Austin grabbed McMahon's hand and counted it,
The Whole "Who attacked Edge" Thing never did make sense either.I thought it should've been Grenier since he debuted at the show and because Edge was one of Hogan's friends.
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Post by hakushi on Sept 16, 2005 19:11:52 GMT -5
His tights say THEE GIANT THEE as in Ye..as in you
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Post by The Hawaiian Hammer! on Sept 16, 2005 19:34:14 GMT -5
In all his time as the Barber, Ed Leisle never actually used his Hedge Clippers in a match, at least then it might have made his matches more interesting The Barber definately did use the hedge clippers on Sherri at Summerslam 1989. She had a long fake braid that he cut. Hate to say I know that as it involves Ed Leslie. I was thinking something a little more Hardcore. Also did he do it with The Grass clipers or his electrical ones
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Post by Cheeto Smith on Sept 16, 2005 20:06:55 GMT -5
The Heel GM or Owner who hates the face champion when it's probably in their best financial interest to have them in the spotlight. This one drives me NUTS, forgive me but I have to rant a bit about this. Before 1997, the management/owners/commissioners of any major federation weren't heels or faces. They were neutral, and had no vested interest in one thing or another. If they reprimanded or disciplined a wrestler, it was for some rule they broke, but it was almost never personal (maybe an exception for monsoon/vader or piper/goldust) Bischoff was the first to change this in 1997 when he joined the NWO. Nobody seemed to say so, but the premise behind this was absolutely absurd. This guy was supposed to WCW President (or whatever they called him). His paycheck is from WCW, not NWO (who get paid by WCW!). He has no business helping an organization that wants to destroy his employer, and there is no way that WCW would allow him to remain President if this were really the case. I suppose in a way this is just an extension of the fact that the "takeover" itself was absurd. Did the NWO have enough money to run a wrestling promotion? No. Anyway, so then McMahon does it a few months later. This time, and only this time, it made sense. The McMahon/Austin story began as a perfectly reasonable angle, McMahon was worried that Austin's brash persona would hurt WWF's public image and therefore its bottom line! McMahon was worried that Austin would hurt the business. So he tried to reason with Austin and make him tone it down a bit after he won the title. Austin refused and gave McMahon a stunner and THEN it was personal. Then we got the WWF's most succesful angle ever. But it never ended. From there, McMahon went on to target other wrestlers, like the Rock, for no apparant reason other than the fact that he just didn't like them. Then his whole family got involved and today its just completely screwed up. Every authority figure they've come up with has been a face or heel for no apparant reason and has performed their duties not professionally, but to enact personal agendas and vendettas against wrestlers. This makes no sense. Bring back Tunney!
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Post by alki4eva on Sept 16, 2005 21:37:59 GMT -5
When the hardcore 24/7 rule was in full swing how come you had wrestlers who would normally put on a 20 minute match with near falls-a-plenty suddenly pinning each other after the weakest looking grease pan shot or sometimes a clothesline in a matter of seconds. Hell even Molly Holly was able to score a fall over The Hurricane which wouyld be impossible normally. And since I've mentioned the 24/7 rule why didn't we see wrestlers getting pinned in their hotels or out in the street.. Ok maybe a minor gripe but still
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Post by The Hawaiian Hammer! on Sept 16, 2005 22:55:42 GMT -5
. And since I've mentioned the 24/7 rule why didn't we see wrestlers getting pinned in their hotels or out in the street.. Ok maybe a minor gripe but still Crash Holly actually DID have a few matches outside the arena, I forget who it was but somebody tried to fight him at Chucky Cheese
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Post by jaguar on Sept 16, 2005 23:57:04 GMT -5
Crash Holly ruled. RIP my super heavyweight friend.
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Post by Rockhound on Sept 17, 2005 20:32:20 GMT -5
How about Austin(now bear with me):
Pours a ton of cement on Vince's Corvette Drops a steel beam on DX's bus Drives a monster truck over the Rock's supposed new car Breaks into Pillman's house and is shot at...and not one cop comes to the house Goes into Vince's hospital room and abuses Vince in some interesting ways with banging and all kind of Vince screams but not one hospital security guard comes to the rescue. Just to name a few.
How about the Rockers winning the tag-titles but since it never made it to TV they just forgot about it.
Or, and this one gets me, going for almost 3 months without a champion. Remember when Austin was stripped of the title and was forced to referee the Kane/Undertaker championship match where he stunned both and counted both out then Vince fired him?
Or perhaps the most classic of not making sense, during the Chyna/JJ "Good Housekeeping Match" Jarrett hits Chyna with the guitar but the ref doesn't count because a guitar isn't a household item but later in the match Chyna clocks Jarrett with the IC belt and THAT counts.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 17, 2005 22:36:56 GMT -5
WWE and HHH pretending Foley was "retired" in the Hell in a Cell at No Way Out 2000 because it was so brutal, not because Foley's career was on the line.
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Post by crestview65723 on Sept 17, 2005 23:57:17 GMT -5
One non-sensical thing that always bugs me is when a wrestler "turns" face or heel without actually turning. For example, last year when Randy Orton turned face on an episode of Raw. He started out the night cutting a heel promo, then wrestling as a heel against Benoit in the main event, and won the match with help from Evolution. Afterwards Evolution turned on him and kicked him out of the group, and this was supposed to somehow "turn" him face. But it's not like he did anything to win the fans' approval. His character was still a jerk, just a jerk who'd been screwed over by other jerks. How does that make him a face?
Another one that really bugged me was Austin's post-Invasion face turn that someone already mentioned here. It made ZERO sense.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Sept 18, 2005 0:30:19 GMT -5
Saw the title of this thread and had to respond without reading most the other things so don't get angry if it's been said but... Irish Whips, why do they keep running?
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Sept 18, 2005 0:32:34 GMT -5
Crash Holly ruled. RIP my super heavyweight friend. Ahmen to that
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Post by frickinsweet on Sept 18, 2005 1:28:41 GMT -5
The Heel GM or Owner who hates the face champion when it's probably in their best financial interest to have them in the spotlight. This one drives me NUTS, forgive me but I have to rant a bit about this. Before 1997, the management/owners/commissioners of any major federation weren't heels or faces. They were neutral, and had no vested interest in one thing or another. If they reprimanded or disciplined a wrestler, it was for some rule they broke, but it was almost never personal (maybe an exception for monsoon/vader or piper/goldust) Bischoff was the first to change this in 1997 when he joined the NWO. Nobody seemed to say so, but the premise behind this was absolutely absurd. This guy was supposed to WCW President (or whatever they called him). His paycheck is from WCW, not NWO (who get paid by WCW!). He has no business helping an organization that wants to destroy his employer, and there is no way that WCW would allow him to remain President if this were really the case. I suppose in a way this is just an extension of the fact that the "takeover" itself was absurd. Did the NWO have enough money to run a wrestling promotion? No. Anyway, so then McMahon does it a few months later. This time, and only this time, it made sense. The McMahon/Austin story began as a perfectly reasonable angle, McMahon was worried that Austin's brash persona would hurt WWF's public image and therefore its bottom line! McMahon was worried that Austin would hurt the business. So he tried to reason with Austin and make him tone it down a bit after he won the title. Austin refused and gave McMahon a stunner and THEN it was personal. Then we got the WWF's most succesful angle ever. But it never ended. From there, McMahon went on to target other wrestlers, like the Rock, for no apparant reason other than the fact that he just didn't like them. Then his whole family got involved and today its just completely screwed up. Every authority figure they've come up with has been a face or heel for no apparant reason and has performed their duties not professionally, but to enact personal agendas and vendettas against wrestlers. This makes no sense. Bring back Tunney! My nominee for Huge Post of the Year!
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