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Post by Samoa Kenny on Sept 3, 2009 12:09:55 GMT -5
I'll start by saying that she's ok, and I don't have the whole story yet, but apparently..
She was sitting in the cart playing with a bag of frozen peas when a "mentally challenged" man from the halfway house around the corner came over and for no reason at all hit her in the head. Hard. He's a full grown man after all.
She started screaming of course and the police were called. The man was with an aid who failed to do anything at all. He also has a violent history, but basically can't be prosecuted because of his mental state.
I'm not sure what can happen now, but I just wish there was someway to actually punish the guy. He's lucky I wasn't there at the time. Or maybe I'm lucky because I would have ended up like that guy protecting his kid in line at McDs.
I'm just so pissed I don't know what to do
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Post by joecro on Sept 3, 2009 12:11:46 GMT -5
you're not from stone mountain georgia are you?
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Sept 3, 2009 12:11:55 GMT -5
Disability be damned, I'd have knocked the prick out.
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Post by Paul Servo on Sept 3, 2009 12:17:11 GMT -5
Since the guy can't be sued because of his mental state, sue the handler who should have done something to stop it.
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Post by darthalexander on Sept 3, 2009 12:24:11 GMT -5
Was the aid watching or was he/she somewhere else when this happened? I'd be furious too.
I bet your sister did something either made a noise or ruffled the bag a certain way that caused him to do this. She's totally innocent in this and the aid should know this guy by now and should have been monitoring him like a hawk.
Glad to hear she's ok.
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Post by marvelocity on Sept 3, 2009 12:27:36 GMT -5
I had a similar thing happen with my baby, then less than two months old, at an elementary school office. He grabbed my son's leg while he was in his stroller and pulled. My fiance nearly knocked him out, but restrained herself. Then she went off on his aide, who did nothing as well. And earlier this summer, a whole busload of mentally challenged students showed up while we were at the school playground (these kids were not from this school district, their workers just saw a nice playground in a quiet neighborhood, and decided to take it over). There had to be at least 20 kids, age ranges from about 8 to 16. It only took one kid knocking down my three year old for us to leave, and go right to the town hall and report them to the town district.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Sept 3, 2009 12:27:45 GMT -5
yeah, if there's any comfort in this it's that there (apprently) wasn't any serious injury to your sister and more than likely she won't remember the incident.
You, however, will remember this and knock anyone sideways who glances at your sister funny.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Sept 3, 2009 12:39:21 GMT -5
Yeah, although the "correct" thing to do would be to stay calm, rational, let the authorities deal with it and go on with life. Had this happened to my kid, that f***er would've added "physically challenged" along with mentally..... y'know, if he was lucky enough to survive.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Sept 3, 2009 12:41:16 GMT -5
That reminds me of that video of a guy who knocked out a man with Down syndrome for kicking his son. These "special" people can usually get away with anything.
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Post by thefunkytiger on Sept 3, 2009 12:42:04 GMT -5
Disability be damned, I'd have knocked the prick out. Agreed, tape your fist Kenny. Glad she is ok.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Sept 3, 2009 12:43:31 GMT -5
I really don't get why mentally challenged people can't be prosecuted. I mean, how does it help them integrate to society to make them believe they can do whatever they want and get away with it?
But surely at least the aid can get in legal trouble, right? I mean, if he's supposed to watch after the disabled man and didn't?
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 3, 2009 12:46:56 GMT -5
Geez. Glad she's ok.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Sept 3, 2009 12:53:51 GMT -5
I really don't get why mentally challenged people can't be prosecuted. I mean, how does it help them integrate to society to make them believe they can do whatever they want and get away with it? But surely at least the aid can get in legal trouble, right? I mean, if he's supposed to watch after the disabled man and didn't? Honestly.... the aids get a lot of shit they don't deserve, as their hands are completely tied when it comes to keeping them in line, in many cases. You can't restrain them, you can only try to re-direct them. If they're resistant at all, there's really nothing else you're allowed to do without it, potentially, costing you your job. And, sure... it could definitely be a case of being inattentive.. but generally, one aide goes on a trip with about four or five of their... .I don't know what to call them while being pathetically PC while trying to make my point.... it's actually pretty common for one or two to wander off by themselves while the aide is dealing with another issue with one of the others.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 3, 2009 13:03:59 GMT -5
Don't they have places to lock these people up in? I mean, if they're violent or dangerous enough as deemed by the courts, then they shouldnt be allowed around the public. For both there own safety and the safety of young kids being attacked.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Sept 3, 2009 13:07:24 GMT -5
I really don't get why mentally challenged people can't be prosecuted. I mean, how does it help them integrate to society to make them believe they can do whatever they want and get away with it? But surely at least the aid can get in legal trouble, right? I mean, if he's supposed to watch after the disabled man and didn't? Honestly.... the aids get a lot of s*** they don't deserve, as their hands are completely tied when it comes to keeping them in line, in many cases. You can't restrain them, you can only try to re-direct them. If they're resistant at all, there's really nothing else you're allowed to do without it, potentially, costing you your job. The aides can use restraint in cases where a person is harming himself or others. Obviously, it can't be excessive, but they aren't totally powerless. As for this situation, I'd look into the agency in charge. If they had known this guy had a violent history, then they should have had more supervision for him.
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Post by ani on Sept 3, 2009 13:44:27 GMT -5
Honestly...I really don't think there's anything you can do. 1. You can't fault the person who's disabled because he'd be even more violent if he just stayed in one place for the rest of his life. He needs to get out. 2. You can't fault the aid because she can't do a bunch of different things at the same time. We need more places like this: www.jawonio.org/home.cfmIt's near back home. It's a group place where a bunch of really dedicated volunteers take care of people like the man who hit your sister. They go to different places where it's MORE THEN ONE person taking care of a group of people.
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Post by odysseus on Sept 3, 2009 13:59:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that happened to your sister. I would love to tell you how I really felt, but it'd be too political. So I'll all say is, we are victims of events that occurred over 70 years ago.
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Post by Franchise on Sept 3, 2009 14:33:03 GMT -5
OK, I say this as a brother to an autistic 22 year old, for the record.
Was it wrong that this man hit Kenny's sister? Yes. Should the aide have recognized what was going on and stopped it before it even happened? Yes. Should there be repercussions? Yes.
Should the man be sent to live in seclusion for the rest of his life? Hell no.
Someone here, I won't mention any names, really offended me by what he said, and to be honest some of you have come close. Acting like because this happened he should rot in some hellhole. It's not like he knew what he was doing; he's mentally handicapped.
I really shouldn't have said anything, since I'm really, REALLY pissed off about some of the comments here. I'll stop now, but end it by saying that people need to be considerate about the situation. I would be pissed if this happened to me as well, and again, it's certainly not right. But some of you acting like he should be put down like some sort of animal because of something this man has no control over? Shameful.
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Post by Franchise on Sept 3, 2009 14:33:50 GMT -5
Honestly...I really don't think there's anything you can do. 1. You can't fault the person who's disabled because he'd be even more violent if he just stayed in one place for the rest of his life. He needs to get out. 2. You can't fault the aid because she can't do a bunch of different things at the same time. We need more places like this: www.jawonio.org/home.cfmIt's near back home. It's a group place where a bunch of really dedicated volunteers take care of people like the man who hit your sister. They go to different places where it's MORE THEN ONE person taking care of a group of people. See, this guy's got the right attitude towards this situation.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Sept 3, 2009 14:36:24 GMT -5
I've been a long time lurker, I remember that video of the SPecial Olympian being KO'd by the Dad of a kid who he pushed down
How'd that thread end up?
Anybody attacks my nieces/nephews they will go down before they get the chance to do anything to them.
I'm sorry if this offends anybody, but just because he doesn't know what he's doing doesn't mean he won't get hurt because of his actions.
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