mrrotten
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Post by mrrotten on Oct 22, 2009 19:44:56 GMT -5
I want to know is, how did the apes and humans go from seemingly co-existing alright in the end of the 5th movie, and end up where humans are back to being Neanderthals in the 1st movie, and that it took about 1300 years to counter the evolutionary advances in humans (nothing be able to talk or reason), yet apes where able to jump in just a few generations to being able to talk and use tools (yet they couldn't use things like cars, electricity, etc, enough they saw how the stuff was used)?
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 22, 2009 19:47:18 GMT -5
I want to know is, how did the apes and humans go from seemingly co-existing alright in the end of the 5th movie, and end up where humans are back to being Neanderthals in the 1st movie, and that it took about 1300 years to counter the evolutionary advances in humans (nothing be able to talk or reason), yet apes where able to jump in just a few generations to being able to talk and use tools (yet they couldn't use things like cars, electricity, etc, enough they saw how the stuff was used)? They didn't. I always assumed that after those pesky humans went to that future in part 1 and 2, and those pesky ape survivors in part 3 going back...which alters the timeline which the apes appear as pets in part 4 and that war stuff in part 5... I always figured the apes evolved from the humans, not two seperate species or anything. You could say humans blew it by devolving thanks to radiation. Oh and part 4 was actually pretty good. |
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Oct 22, 2009 19:48:28 GMT -5
its planet of the ape, theres only one!
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Post by The Hawaiian Hammer! on Oct 22, 2009 19:48:50 GMT -5
It's probably the standard paradox issue in most movies, but I thought that by Cornelius and that Girl Ape Traveling back in time and Ceaser (?)'s seeming change in attitude meant that the future would be slightly different than what we originally saw in the first movie
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Post by gamblore on Oct 22, 2009 21:41:43 GMT -5
Because from the start it was intended to be a stand alone movie, but it did so well that the studio kept forcing them to make more and more sequels, which meant they had to resort to pulling more and more out of their ass.
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 22, 2009 21:46:32 GMT -5
Because from the start it was intended to be a stand alone movie, but it did so well that the studio kept forcing them to make more and more sequels, which meant they had to resort to pulling more and more out of their ass. Which by all things considered...they did a good job. Up to part 4. Part 5 was terrible. Killed the series for a good reason. |
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Post by Jiren on Oct 22, 2009 21:51:05 GMT -5
They were better than Tim Burton's awful remake
Dear lord that sucked
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Post by Triple Kelly on Oct 22, 2009 21:57:55 GMT -5
I did feel Part 5 was quite forced. Conquest was an awesome movie though. It should've ended on the "revolution" note because it tied into the first movie, instead of "now we have control over the humans....and we'll be nice to them".
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 22, 2009 22:04:04 GMT -5
I did feel Part 5 was quite forced. Conquest was an awesome movie though. It should've ended on the "revolution" note because it tied into the first movie, instead of "now we have control over the humans....and we'll be nice to them". Absolutely. Plus, the way they "changed" it in post-production....feels absolutely cheap. |
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Post by gamblore on Oct 22, 2009 22:08:23 GMT -5
They were better than Tim Burton's awful remake Dear lord that sucked Well, you have a point there. |
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Oct 22, 2009 22:11:51 GMT -5
Well, first of all, the humans would evolve to be very docile, more like human pets than people. Odds are, the humans were expelled from Ape Settlements by the Gorillas, and were constantly hunted. What were saw in Planet of the Apes may just be the descendents of unsocialized children, who survived by being quiet gatherers. That was just Nova's tribe. Odds are, Human settlements of greater intelligence existed elsewhere in the world. I presume not every civilized area kept large ape populations. P.S. Ah, someone made a timeline www.theforbidden-zone.com/info/apeline.shtmlIt appears that humans were also mutated by the plauge and radiation. Good Read. |
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 22, 2009 22:12:10 GMT -5
To be fair, the remake was probably the worst movie Burton ever made. Even Battle looks good in comparison (largely due to the emotional "APE HAS KILLED APE" bit.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Oct 22, 2009 22:12:57 GMT -5
I did feel Part 5 was quite forced. Conquest was an awesome movie though. It should've ended on the "revolution" note because it tied into the first movie, instead of "now we have control over the humans....and we'll be nice to them". Absolutely. Plus, the way they "changed" it in post-production....feels absolutely cheap. It was that whole "you have to tone it down because kids like these movies". When the movies weren't made to appeal to kids to begin with. |
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 22, 2009 22:16:19 GMT -5
Absolutely. Plus, the way they "changed" it in post-production....feels absolutely cheap. It was that whole "you have to tone it down because kids like these movies". When the movies weren't made to appeal to kids to begin with. Yeah and didn't #2 end with the heroes getting killed and the Earth getting destroyed? Its The Day After. For kids! |
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Post by odysseus on Oct 23, 2009 17:42:14 GMT -5
I want to know is, how did the apes and humans go from seemingly co-existing alright in the end of the 5th movie, and end up where humans are back to being Neanderthals in the 1st movie, and that it took about 1300 years to counter the evolutionary advances in humans (nothing be able to talk or reason), yet apes where able to jump in just a few generations to being able to talk and use tools (yet they couldn't use things like cars, electricity, etc, enough they saw how the stuff was used)? Simple. Human started watching crap like this:    And our genes receded. Making for the ape's evolving brain to surpass ours, and take us over. |
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Post by Lazy peon on Oct 23, 2009 17:53:05 GMT -5
I think I saw that picture photoshopped before. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Oct 23, 2009 21:26:26 GMT -5
4 was the best but I think 5 wasn't that bad. It was the worst but I still think it is pretty underrated.
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