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Post by dlg3000 on Feb 1, 2009 1:28:57 GMT -5
There were times when promoters (and bookers help too) drop the ball. The famous one is probably the AWA when Verne Gagne dropped the ball on Hulk Hogan. I can think of others. Max Moon is of course, played by Konnan. He was the Hulk Hogan of Mexico, which he could have brought in a new wave of fans. But because of Max Moon, now all of a sudden new fans in the Latino communities are being brought in at least 10 years later. What other examples have promoters and bookers dropped ball?
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 1, 2009 2:25:53 GMT -5
TNA, constantly.
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Post by scifi1980 on Feb 1, 2009 2:52:17 GMT -5
It wasn't a disaster by a long shot but I feel they dropped the ball making up the matches for Wrestlemania 7. Rockers should of finally beat Power And Glory and Demolition should of been the ones to cost LOD the #1 contender for the tag belts battle royale, setting up a streetfight at Mania7. LOD could of used this victory as momentum for their no dq match against the Nasties at Summerslam.
Starrcade 97. Fall Brawl 98 was poorly done by just about everybody in the main event.
The InVasion will get mentioned about 5 times so I won't go into it.
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Feb 1, 2009 4:59:54 GMT -5
TNA is doing it right now with Cheerleader Melissa. Let's see you got one of the most over woman wrestlers in the world in your company so what do you do? Dress her up like Osama Bin Laden and use her for a manager.
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Post by lockedontarget on Feb 1, 2009 6:10:04 GMT -5
ROH: Faction warfare.
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Post by craigdanbeaton on Feb 1, 2009 6:25:04 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff - Steve Austin
So you have a guy who in a few years is going to become the biggest wrestler since Hogan (And arguably THE Biggest wrestler ever) and you fire him over the phone?
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Post by eJm on Feb 1, 2009 8:31:21 GMT -5
The InVasion.
All of it.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 1, 2009 8:41:56 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff - Steve Austin So you have a guy who in a few years is going to become the biggest wrestler since Hogan (And arguably THE Biggest wrestler ever) and you fire him over the phone? If foresight were as clear as hindsight, no one would ever make big mistakes like this. It's hard to tell who's going to be the next big thing and who is going to fizzle out in a year, or if he would have even been big if he had stayed with WCW. |
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Post by rj on Feb 1, 2009 13:35:15 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff - Steve Austin So you have a guy who in a few years is going to become the biggest wrestler since Hogan (And arguably THE Biggest wrestler ever) and you fire him over the phone? Well to be fair, Vince McMahon originally perceived Austin as the Million Dollar Champion Ringmaster. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 13:58:09 GMT -5
I'll be different and say Vince chickened out on taking the Goldust character to a whole different level. Vince pulled back when it got too hot in the kitchen for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 14:01:46 GMT -5
Hogan/Sting.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Feb 1, 2009 16:16:39 GMT -5
WCW dropped the ball with Sabu. In 1995, he was one of the most talked about wrestlers in the world. WCW got him to do a few shows, but were too controlling and confounded his style of wrestling. Consequently, Sabu didn't sign with WCW and returned back to ECW.
WCW totally dropped the ball with Jerry Lynn. The had one of the very best technical wrestlers ever, and what did they do with him? They put him behind a generic mask, called him Mr JL, and never elevated him to midcard level.
WCW also dropped the ball with Bret Hart. They had no clue what to do with him. The WWF did the same thing with The Giant (Paul White).
The InVasion is the be all and end all of dropped balls in wrestling.
CZW dropped the ball by hardly featuring any matches pitting CZW talent against ROH talent at its shows. But even though CZW was never fully on board with the CZW vs ROH angle, it still rocked and totally put the InVasion angle to shame.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 1, 2009 16:38:41 GMT -5
This thread should begin and end with WCW's terminal misuse of Mike Awesome. Apparently, agile big men that could be credible main eventers purely by destroying people make great comedy material. Who knew?
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 1, 2009 17:22:42 GMT -5
WCW dropped the ball so very badly with Bret Hart.
I know Bischoff had legitimate reasons to hold off on debuting Bret, because he wanted him to headline Thunder, but there is no way any booker should have passed up the opportunity the screwjob and Bret's arrival gave him.
And after that, doing nothing of consequence with him for over a year was just appalling business. Didn't Davy Boy and Neidhart come to WCW with Bret? Why not carry on the Hart Foundation gimmick, but add a couple of WCW boys, like Benoit or Jericho, and set them up against the nWo?
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Post by Triple Kelly on Feb 1, 2009 17:38:30 GMT -5
WWF with the InVasion, obviously.
WCW with.........a whole helluva lot.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 1, 2009 18:04:13 GMT -5
WCW dropped the ball so very badly with Bret Hart. I know Bischoff had legitimate reasons to hold off on debuting Bret, because he wanted him to headline Thunder, but there is no way any booker should have passed up the opportunity the screwjob and Bret's arrival gave him. Actually, I'm relatively sure that Bret was still under contract with WWF for like a month after the Screwjob. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Feb 1, 2009 18:25:19 GMT -5
WWF and Taz(z). He had a great match with Kurt angle, and then joined the alliance and got his ass kicked by stone cold week after week.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 1, 2009 19:12:51 GMT -5
Actually, I'm relatively sure that Bret was still under contract with WWF for like a month after the Screwjob. So I've always thought, but both Bischoff and Jerry Lawler seem to be under the impression that Bret could have appeared on WCW pretty much straight after leaving the WWE. The question comes up in the Monday Night Wars roundtable discussion. Lawler also seems to think the whole Montreal thing might have been a secret work, and JR implies that Vince could have found a way to keep Bret with the company if he'd wanted to. |
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Post by cmpaul31 on Feb 1, 2009 19:39:28 GMT -5
I'd say CZW dropped the ball by not making bigger moves to go national when they were on fire in 2001-2002.
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Post by Bobby Womack on Feb 1, 2009 20:10:21 GMT -5
WCW dropped the ball with Sabu. In 1995, he was one of the most talked about wrestlers in the world. WCW got him to do a few shows, but were too controlling and confounded his style of wrestling. Consequently, Sabu didn't sign with WCW and returned back to ECW. WCW totally dropped the ball with Jerry Lynn. The had one of the very best technical wrestlers ever, and what did they do with him? They put him behind a generic mask, called him Mr JL, and never elevated him to midcard level. WCW also dropped the ball with Bret Hart. thanks for getting all the textbook smark answers out of the way in one post, lets ignore the fact that none of them were main event material, save for maybe sabu who botched and nearly crippled himself almost on a weekly basis, i can totally see why they wouldnt want to get behind someone like that |
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