Why is WWE WASTING Rey Mysterio?

[bradtherad]

Okay for those who dont know, Rey Mysterio returned at HIAC and teamed with Batista to...LOSE to Jericho and Big Show. Now, I think that this is a huge mistake. Let's turn around and face the facts here...1. Rey Mysterio is one of the FACE of the company. Now what this means is that he is one of the stars who make the WWE what it is and he is nonereplaceable. You cant put any old guy under a mask and have the fans love him as much as they do Rey Mysterio. (WWE tried with that ultimate dragon guy on smackdown) He has a special connection to the fans and he also has something very few have...NATURAL talent. Not, "I went to a wrestling school for 15 years and learned all these moves". NO, thats baloney. He has natural talent that you cant learn. You cant take any other WWE wrestler and teach them to be Rey Mysterio because as Rob Van Damn's music said, Rey Mysterio is "one of a kind".

But Brad! You might ask, didnt Rey Mysterio get suspended for drugs? Besides aside the fact that I think that it was a wrong suspension and that Rey had a prescription as reports say he did which makes sense since can u imagine Rey buying drugs on a street corner? He is a millionaire of course not, so thats that, but even if you want to believe that Rey violated the policy and was suspended right, then you gotta face the fact that Rey had his punishment and he did it! He was suspended for the time and he sat at home and took it like a man and did not whine or cry.

So now, you bring back this face of your company, whom you stole the title from and destroyed his momentum and you throw him into another title match, with a partner who he had a famous tag team with, Batista. Sounds good and I was real excited that Rey Mysterio and Batista will be tag champs again especially since Jericho and "Big Boring" aka Big Show are getting stale as tag champs, they so stale that they should make their tag team name "Moldy". But I am sure there is a lot of there fans on here, so whatever. But u will admit they been champs for a long time.

And what does WWE do?

Does WWE do a creative thing and keep Mysterio on top by having them lose the titles because Jericho and Show cheated? NO!

Does the WWE do a smart thing and keep Mysterio looking strong by having Batista turn on him and beat him up/walk away? NO!

Does WWE do the STUPID thing to waste Rey Mysterio by having him be knocked out and take the pin for the loss? DING DING DING!

So whether you agree or disagree with me, you'll have to agree that WWE is defenetely wasting a huge star of theirs with this ridiculous punishing of Rey Mysterio for something he probably did not even do!

Note I realise some may say that WWE only made them lose so Jericho and Show can feud with DX which is okay but they had a million other ways to do it that did not involve making Rey Mysterio look weak ands tupid!

I hope WWE starts using Rey right again, its for their best interest!

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Well then, there's a thread that should be still on the first page with some news (spoilers actually) that should please you.

[bradtherad]

Oct 6, 2009 10:42:15 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Well then, there's a thread that should be still on the first page with some news (spoilers actually) that should please you.

I looked and I dont see it ?

[wrestlecrapcrap]

So in order for WWE to do something that wouldn't be stupid, in your opinion:

They should have turned Batista, when they moved him to Smackdown only 2 weeks ago as they needed a face to fill the void left by Jeff Hardy. Then you'd get people moaning that he's stealing Punk's push.

Or Batista and Rey win the tag titles, thus ending the tag team push that's been throughly entertaining, has gotten the best out of the Big Show again and has a good looking feud with DX coming up.

You gotta understand that everything has consequences. Every decision they make affects something else. One person's favourite may be Rey but they can't book just for Rey, they have to book for the benefit of the whole company.

[bradtherad]

Oct 6, 2009 10:49:13 GMT -5 wrestlecrapcrap said:

So in order for WWE to do something that wouldn't be stupid, in your opinion:

They should have turned Batista, when they moved him to Smackdown only 2 weeks ago as they needed a face to fill the void left by Jeff Hardy. Then you'd get people moaning that he's stealing Punk's push.

Or Batista and Rey win the tag titles, thus ending the tag team push that's been throughly entertaining, has gotten the best out of the Big Show again and has a good looking feud with DX coming up.

You gotta understand that everything has consequences. Every decision they make affects something else. One person's favourite may be Rey but they can't book just for Rey, they have to book for the benefit of the whole company.

Like I said they could had lost but not with Rey looking weak.

Yes, Batista moved as fresh face, but he can turn heel and Rey can be main event face again. There is more than just the options I listed thats why the creative team needs to be creative and not a bunch of losers!

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Oct 6, 2009 10:48:29 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

Oct 6, 2009 10:42:15 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Well then, there's a thread that should be still on the first page with some news (spoilers actually) that should please you.

I looked and I dont see it ?

"Bragging Rights WHC and SD Spoilers" or something similar. It's not too far down the page.

I'd post the link, but I'm posting on here through my phone right now, so I can't.

[bradtherad]

Oct 6, 2009 10:51:41 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Oct 6, 2009 10:48:29 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

I looked and I dont see it ?

"Bragging Rights WHC and SD Spoilers" or something similar. It's not too far down the page.

I'd post the link, but I'm posting on here through my phone right now, so I can't.

Ah I see it and read it, good stuff!

[Albino Heat]

Oct 6, 2009 10:40:01 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

But Brad! You might ask, didnt Rey Mysterio get suspended for drugs? Besides aside the fact that I think that it was a wrong suspension and that Rey had a prescription as reports say he did which makes sense since can u imagine Rey buying drugs on a street corner? He is a millionaire of course not, so thats that, but even if you want to believe that Rey violated the policy and was suspended right, then you gotta face the fact that Rey had his punishment and he did it!

Yeah because a millionaire would never do something like get drugs from an illegal source...

Dude, have you ever watched the news for the last 50 years?

As far as Rey goes, he did start to rejuvenate his career with his Jericho feud, so if he can get back to that level, I could definitely see him back in the Main Event.

[Handsome Halfbreed]

I'd like to see another match between Rey and Morrison.
Morris needs to turn heel again then work a program featuring a best out of seven series. That would most def make SD! must watch TV.

[The Peoples Elbow]

Mysterio should be a upper mid-carder at best. I'm not a fan of him. That is all.

[Ragnal]

He just got back from a suspension. As far as I'm concerned, him losing was just like dangling string in front of a cat. The WWE's teasing him that he might never get another shot in his life.

[bradtherad]

Oct 6, 2009 11:30:38 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

He just got back from a suspension. As far as I'm concerned, him losing was just like dangling string in front of a cat. The WWE's teasing him that he might never get another shot in his life.

Thats like the WWE going "Ha ha look we are throwing our money away and setting it on fire" to make him upset. Mysterio makes WWE much money FACT.

[Ragnal]

Oct 6, 2009 11:33:56 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

Oct 6, 2009 11:30:38 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

He just got back from a suspension. As far as I'm concerned, him losing was just like dangling string in front of a cat. The WWE's teasing him that he might never get another shot in his life.

Thats like the WWE going "Ha ha look we are throwing our money away and setting it on fire" to make him upset. Mysterio makes WWE much money FACT.

I'm not saying he doesn't make the company money, I'm saying this is more or less the same thing RVD went through after he came back from suspension. A lot of fans think he SHOULD have won the ECW title again, but as we've all seen, that went down the drain badly, especially after Lashley took over the show.

BUT just because Rey makes the company money, that doesn't mean he has to be THE top guy. He's better off being a contender anymore for the World title given that he held the belt for four months, which is the most he's ever gonna get out of the belt.

But that's not to say Rey isn't a profit. You don't need to put a title on him to make a guy profitable.

[Pooh Carlson]

I like that they lost. It was both Batista and Mysterio's first PPV back and common booking would give them the win. To see Jerishow come out on top was surprising to me and a nice change of pace. I don't see how Mysterio looks weak when he took the pin from Big Show. Now, if Big Show had lost to Mysterio with the 619 ... that would have KILLED Big Show's momentum that he's been building in this tag team.

Mysterio is popular enough that he can take the loss there and bounce back, still sell all the masks in the world that he wants to. As far as whether Mysterio deserved to be suspended, I think that if he actually had a prescription, and he knew the rules about getting that prescription to WWE officials to avoid suspension, he would have done EVERYTHING he could and MAKE SURE that prescription gets in the right hands.

[H-Fist]

Oct 6, 2009 10:40:01 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

You cant put any old guy under a mask and have the fans love him as much as they do Rey Mysterio. (WWE tried with that ultimate dragon guy on smackdown)
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can u imagine Rey buying drugs on a street corner? He is a millionaire of course not
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especially since Jericho and Big Boring aka Big Show are getting stale as tag champs, they so stale that they should make their tag team name Moldy...But u will admit they been champs for a long time.
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Does WWE do the STUPID thing to waste Rey Mysterio by having him be knocked out and take the pin for the loss? DING DING DING!
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So whether you agree or disagree with me, you'll have to agree that WWE is defenetely wasting a huge star of theirs with this ridiculous punishing of Rey Mysterio for something he probably did not even do!
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Note I realise some may say that WWE only made them lose so Jericho and Show can feud with DX which is okay but they had a million other ways to do it that did not involve making Rey Mysterio look weak ands tupid!

Okay, silliness being over, here's a serious rebuttal.

Mysterio vs. Ultimo Dragon: Ultimo Dragon won the J-Crown while holding the WCW Cruiserweight Title in 96; he was FAR from a nobody. Rather, almost everyone is a nobody when they debut in a new promotion. In a matter of weeks/months, you'll discover this when these boards light up because of a pale, undersized white dude and a tall, soft-spoken Brit making their WWE debuts as "nobodies."

Anyone can *get* a prescription. The existence of a prescription is not prima facie evidence of legitimate cause or use. Painkillers, sleep aids and anabolic steroids all have legitimate medical use. The question is whether a) he cleared them with the company first; b) he had legitimate need for the level found in his bloodstream; c) was the amount in his bloodstream within accepted therapeutic levels.

WWE never acknowledged Rey's suspension on TV. They didn't even mention he was gone, other than Morrison's "wherever you are, thank you" promo the week after he won the IC Title. Most people just didn't see him because they are casual fans and don't read the WWE.com corporate website where suspensions are announced. In-ring punishment for suspensions is commonplace. Chris Masters, Randy Orton, Joey Mercury, John Morrison, Jeff Hardy, Eugene, Charlie Haas, Edge, Batista, Funaki, Helms, Chavo, Festus, Regal, Ziggler, Yang, and DH Smith all have been suspended at least once. How many of them have seen pushes delayed, ended or interrupted without being written out due to "injury"? Quite a few.

Jericho and Big Show only hold the Tag Team Titles because Edge got hurt, and it has been a gift in disguise for both wrestlers. Big Show entered the picture at NoC in late July, while Jericho and Edge won them at The Bash in June. So Jericho's reign is only at about 3 months and a week. Pretty sad that 100 days is a long time, isn't it?

The wrestler took a cleanish loss to a punch from a man 3 times his size. How does that make him look weak? He hadn't been in the ring in a month (rusty). He was teaming with someone he hadn't teamed with in a number of years against a well-oiled machine (chemistry). He also was coming off suspension, which means that WWE has just cause to make him lose. He came off of suspension and got a title shot! He easily could have come back as the guy Drew McIntyre would attack and feud with. He's fine.

Considering Rey and Jericho raised the profile of the Intercontinental Title, I have no qualms seeing the two of them involved in yet another title match, thus improving the prestige of the Tag Team titles and implicitly making tag team wrestling more important.

[hmbnimbus]

Oct 6, 2009 10:40:01 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

You cant put any old guy under a mask and have the fans love him as much as they do Rey Mysterio. (WWE tried with that ultimate dragon guy on smackdown)

I lol'd.

[Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture]

I wouldn't say it's the WWE "wasting" Mysterio as it is more Mysterio "wasting" his opportunity with WWE.

So, let's get aside the "facts"

- He is a talented worker
- He's a magnet for little kids who love his super-hero style look
- He moves merch for Vince by the truckload
- He's drawn a huge part of the Hispanic population to Smackdown

An impressive list of accolades, to be sure. But here's how Mysterio has soured the officials' stance on him:

- Earlier in the year, he made several complaints about the pay he was getting. With attendance in the States starting to lag a bit and PPV revenues down (the economic woes had a big part to do with this), it was expected. No stories of HHH or Cena bitching, only Mysterio.

- This culminated with Mysterio threatening to walk out and give his notice sometime in March or so.

- There was an article in Wrestleview in May or so that stated that Mysterio demanded a lengthy chunk of time off to vacation in Hawaii with his family. At one point in time, there was a rumor that the WWE even footed some of the bill.

- Mysterio also was negative about working with some of the newer stars, saying guys like Morrison and Ziggler didn't deserve to be put over by him yet.

- And we get to the prescription fiasco. With all of the focus on the Wellness Program, I would think that he would have made sure to get a copy of the prescription to WWE officials and trainers to cover his ass.

Now, I understand that some of this may be NEWZ and some may be legit circumstances. But for all intents and purposes, it sounds to me like Mysterio has been stepping on toes with some of his comments and actions, and in the end it will get him in trouble.

And also, it's one match back from his suspension. If he goes on a losing streak for the next 6 weeks, then I will suspect he's being buried. But he hasn't. So let's take the tried but true 'Wait-and-see" approach

[Prince Petty]

Oct 6, 2009 11:28:21 GMT -5 The Peoples Elbow said:

Mysterio should be a upper mid-carder at best. I'm not a fan of him. That is all.

I agree completely. I have never been a fan of the guy. Nothing he does interests me in the slightest.

The only thing I want the WWE to do with him is move him to ECW, to be the face of that brand, so Christian can come and main event on Smackdown.

Let him spend his last years elevating young guys like Ryder and Sheamus, and increasing the awareness of the ECW brand, through his bizarre appeal to children.

[Tea & Crumpets]

As you say, rey's one of the top stars of the company. fact is, he got busted under their policy for drugs. If he didn't do it, they wouldn't suspend him. He's 1 of their top guys, chances are they didn't want to suspend him. But they did, and as such I fully believe he did take the drugs. Plus, you only need to see how much he's inflated since his WWE days to know he has to have been on something at some time.

Also, heels cheating to win has been done loads. Heels winning cleanly is less common. As such I have no problem with Jerishow winning clean (though I didnt see the show, 'm going on what Ive heard). Batista turning onRey could have been good yes, but Rey losing clean doesn't bother me. Besides, it's not like him and Batista will never get their win back. It's only been 1 day since the PPV.

[wrestlecrapcrap]

Oct 6, 2009 10:51:11 GMT -5 bradtherad said:

Oct 6, 2009 10:49:13 GMT -5 wrestlecrapcrap said:

So in order for WWE to do something that wouldn't be stupid, in your opinion:

They should have turned Batista, when they moved him to Smackdown only 2 weeks ago as they needed a face to fill the void left by Jeff Hardy. Then you'd get people moaning that he's stealing Punk's push.

Or Batista and Rey win the tag titles, thus ending the tag team push that's been throughly entertaining, has gotten the best out of the Big Show again and has a good looking feud with DX coming up.

You gotta understand that everything has consequences. Every decision they make affects something else. One person's favourite may be Rey but they can't book just for Rey, they have to book for the benefit of the whole company.

Like I said they could had lost but not with Rey looking weak.

Yes, Batista moved as fresh face, but he can turn heel and Rey can be main event face again. There is more than just the options I listed thats why the creative team needs to be creative and not a bunch of losers!

I can't believe we're having a serious discussion that Rey is being mis-used because in a match consisting of 4 former world champions, it was him that had to take the pin. Someone had to do it - he was the best choice. He can easily get a win back and be right on the same level of the roster.

Yes JeriShow could have cheated to win, but then there's consequences to that, just as there's consequences to anything. It's all about perception. JeriShow claim to be the most dominant team in sports, and they don't cheat to win - THEY ARE good. It's mainly Jericho with the stamina wearing down the opposition and Big Show finishes them off. They don't cheat, they get sudden victories. That's there thing.

If they had to cheat, maybe it saves Rey slightly but it weakens the champs, who then go into what would be a terrible one sided feud with DX. As it is, we have a dominant team against DX, which I'm very much looking forward to.