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Post by Blade Braxton on Mar 18, 2009 23:27:27 GMT -5
My favorite boxer attempted to end to myth that was Mike Tyson. That was also the first time I ever went to a bar, as me and my dad went to go see a closed circuit showing at one. I arguably never marked harder than when Razor Ruddock threw his first punch of the fight, one that if he had connected, would've killed Mike Tyson. Sadly he missed, and a few rounds later Tyson, Richard Steele and Don King would pull one of boxing's biggest screwjobs of the 90's.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 18, 2009 23:46:26 GMT -5
I remember the commercials for this fight. They were building Ruddock up as invincible, and Tyson was my favorite of the time (this was between discovering Punch Out and his rape conviction), so I was worried he would lose. Anyway, Tyson beat him pretty bad, and then absolutely destroyed him in the rematch.
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Post by officedepot6905 on Mar 18, 2009 23:49:04 GMT -5
what was the screwjob? i was only 6 during this and the only boxers i know is rocky,apollo,drago and clubber lane
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Post by Blade Braxton on Mar 19, 2009 0:28:08 GMT -5
Anyway, Tyson beat him pretty bad, and then absolutely destroyed him in the rematch. Both had their moments in the first one, before the premature stoppage in the 7th. And I wouldn't say Tyson destroyed him in the rematch. Tyson destroyed guys like Michael Spinks and Tony Tubbs. A one-dimensional (and way overweight for the rematch) Ruddock went the 12 round distance - with a broken jaw - in the desert against the "worlds baddest man." Sure Tyson won the fight by a solid margin, but Ruddock wasn't going to win on points anyways, and he stood in there and traded with Tyson. Most Tyson opponents of that era folded quickly. Now Lennox Lewis on the other hand... he DESTROYED Ruddock. what was the screwjob? i was only 6 during this and the only boxers i know is rocky,apollo,drago and clubber lane If you go to the 7:00 mark, you'll see the premature stoppage, one which started a huge melee in the ring. Referee Richard Steele would be solidly booed every time he was introduced for about five years after that controversial stoppage.
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Post by FrankGotch on Mar 19, 2009 1:37:46 GMT -5
My favorite Ruddock moment. ;D
Still gotta give credit to Razor for being able to get up from that one, even if he did get knocked down again shortly afterward. If there is one thing you can say about Ruddock its that he had heart.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Mar 19, 2009 6:45:54 GMT -5
um shouldn't this be in the Off Topic section?
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Post by Kash Flagg on Mar 19, 2009 8:57:20 GMT -5
True story...met Razor Ruddick at a strip club once. Nice guy.
That was all.
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Post by The Tree of Woe on Mar 19, 2009 9:01:49 GMT -5
My favorite boxer attempted to end to myth that was Mike Tyson. That was also the first time I ever went to a bar, as me and my dad went to go see a closed circuit showing at one. I arguably never marked harder than when Razor Ruddock threw his first punch of the fight, one that if he had connected, would've killed Mike Tyson. Sadly he missed, and a few rounds later Tyson, Richard Steele and Don King would pull one of boxing's biggest screwjobs of the 90's. 2:32. That first punch Ruddock threw didn't even look real. That was insanely fast. I'm pretty sure that would have sent Iron Mike's head clear into the 9th row.
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Post by parder on Mar 19, 2009 9:47:25 GMT -5
With all due respect Blade I've got to disagree with that being a screwy finish. Unfortunately too many American fans of both boxing and MMA have this sick obsession with knock outs rather the fighter's safety. It was a hard shot that knocked him backwards making him defenseless in such a way that he would've been knocked out and Tyson would have won decisively a few seconds later anyway. But why should Ruddock's health be put in danger by having to face those extra shots just to fuel the fan's lust for someone to be left temporarily unconscious (at least I hope that's all they want to see)?
Sure Ruddock's going to say he can continue, but every fighter says that just to protect their pride, they're not in a position to make that call, the referee - who has the official and moral responsibility for the safety of the fight - is the one to make that call. He's only got a split second to make that call, and how is he going to feel if a fighter ends up in a wheel chair or worse if he could've stopped the fight earlier and he didn't?
I'm sorry to labour this point, but I'm very passionate about this issue in professional fight sports, and the reaction of those fans and the commentators disgusts me. The same problem is beginning to plague MMA (not helped by incentive bonuses to the fighters for clean knock outs) and it's only a matter of time before they learn the hard way if things don't change.
As for Ruddock's punches, a lot of big guys can throw haymakers that would knock most people down, but having the technical ability to connect with them is what makes you a great fighter, and Ruddock couldn't do that with Tyson. Tyson in his prime, on the other hand, was normally pretty good at that, as evidenced by his KO record.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2009 12:23:08 GMT -5
Richard Steele wasn't just hated for that moment. He was also the referee who stopped the Julio Cesar Chavez-Meldrick Taylor fight.
[From Wikipedia, but this is not your typical Wiki entry, as I remember this story clearly.] Steele was sometimes involved in controversy, but none bigger than the one that happened after Chavez-Taylor I. With Taylor ahead on the scorecards and seconds away from inflicting Chavez his first defeat, he was dropped by a Chavez punch to the chin. He got up on the five count, but Steele decided to stop the fight with two seconds left in the last round, Taylor was clearly shaken and did not respond when Steele asked Taylor, "Are you alive, or just breathing?" This defeat affected Taylor greatly, and it proved to be the beginning of the end as a professional boxer for him. Many fans that saw the fight still argue as to whether the fight should have been stopped or not, considering the very short time left in the bout. Steele defended himself by declaring he just tried to protect Taylor from more punishment and did not know how much time was left in the fight, claiming "no fight is worth a man's life". Also, what many forget is that Taylor had taken a severe battering during the fight. Doctor Flip Hopansky of the Nevada State Athletic Commission examined the young fighter and said Taylor had a facial fracture and was urinating pure blood and his face was grotesque. It was estimated that Taylor had swallowed approximately two pints of blood during the course of the bout.
I know I wasn't the only person that was so pissed off they stopped this fight. I always figured Steele didn't want to be in the ring when he had to announce that Chavez lost his first fight. (He was like 85-0 at the time, or something thereabouts.)
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 19, 2009 14:46:50 GMT -5
um shouldn't this be in the Off Topic section?
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