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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 19, 2009 22:27:26 GMT -5
I know this topic has probably been covered many times on these forums, but I've gotta ask...
How is it that Vickie Guerrero, the widow of one of the most beloved wrestlers there ever was, can get more heel heat with 2 words than anyone else on the roster?
I mean, the actual wrestling heels must not be doing their jobs right or something when they are out-heeled by a single mother.
The cynic in me thinks it is probably just "Go the f*** away you annoying woman" heat, but you don't know these things for sure.
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Post by comahan on Oct 19, 2009 22:28:14 GMT -5
I have no idea, but its FANTASTIC. I love Vickie.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Oct 19, 2009 22:28:28 GMT -5
She just exhumes pure evil, that's how.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 19, 2009 22:28:36 GMT -5
I think it's the Kankles.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Oct 19, 2009 22:30:09 GMT -5
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Oct 19, 2009 22:31:22 GMT -5
I think it's a shame we'll never get to see the Vickie character interact with heel and face Eddie. I could imagine Eddie getting on her last nerve as a face, and then as a heel team they'd be unstoppable.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Oct 19, 2009 22:31:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2009 22:32:08 GMT -5
+ Eddige? |
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Oct 19, 2009 22:33:00 GMT -5
She came to Edge in a time when Edge was HOT, and then she cost everyone's favorites the titles over and over. It was well booked to gain TONS to heat.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Oct 19, 2009 22:34:27 GMT -5
I believe the question is "How does/did she get the heel heat?", not "Who is she trying to put over as a heel with her own heat?"  Eddgie. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2009 22:37:15 GMT -5
+ I believe the question is "How does/did she get the heel heat?", not "Who is she trying to put over as a heel with her own heat?" How did she get hate from Eddie though? |
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 19, 2009 22:37:31 GMT -5
When you get a heel who's not funny, not righteous in the Punk/Jericho sense, not attractive (in how WWE presents attractive), just not cool whatsoever...you get Vickie Guerrero.
There is nothing from a fan's perspective that makes her redeeming, doubly so because she's not an in ring performer and thus has no athletic talents to at least respect. She's an irritating shrew and does nothing but make life difficult and annoying to those around here (excepting her current lover).
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Post by Yami Daimao on Oct 19, 2009 22:38:49 GMT -5
I believe the question is "How does/did she get the heel heat?", not "Who is she trying to put over as a heel with her own heat?" How did she get hate from Eddie though? Well not FROM Eddie, but more like "betraying" Eddie after his death by hooking up with THE biggest heel at the time (Edge). |
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Oct 19, 2009 22:47:28 GMT -5
Easy answer-- her voice is VERY annoying (note how the crowd reacts with stronger boos each time she hits an "Excuuuuuse meeee"). The crowd boos her like they boo Jillian Hall's horrible singing.
Complicated answer-- it's not JUST the annoying voice, but heel Vickie represents everything that wrestling mark should hate about a WWE personality: she cheats to win, manipulates the rules and abuses her stroke with WWE corporate but never actually fights in the ring herself. Therefore, she can't ever get her comeuppance in storylines, and she's frequently put in a position of power which is seen to be an undeserved role in marks' eyes. Hence, booing her (and noting that she's bothered by the fans' boos during the "Excuuuuse meeeee" wails) is literally the only way to fight back against her.
Infinitely more convoluted answer-- since she's a heel widow of one of the most over face Superstars of all time, the smarks in the crowd boo her passionately out of respect for the Guerrero name. I have no idea why this doesn't work for Chavo, though...
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 19, 2009 23:10:16 GMT -5
She's unlikable. She's really annoying. She's a power-hungry cougar. She has a shrill voice...
And she goes around in wheelchairs for no reason.
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Post by DSR on Oct 19, 2009 23:14:29 GMT -5
She's unlikable. She's really annoying. She's a power-hungry cougar. She has a shrill voice... And she goes around in wheelchairs for no reason. Other, more deserving people could be using those wheelchairs! BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2009 23:18:38 GMT -5
She's unlikable. She's really annoying. She's a power-hungry cougar. She has a shrill voice... And she goes around in wheelchairs for no reason. Its horrible but that last sentence makes me laugh so hard |
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Post by Tapout on Oct 20, 2009 1:06:00 GMT -5
Good booking + Edge's awesome heel character helped launch her character, tons of her own natural charisma took her the rest of the way.
As pointed out, she is a widow. The widow of one of the most beloved workers in recent WWE history who was just turning his life around and learning to enjoy clean living with his loving family while reaching the top of the mountain career-wise, which made his death all the more tragic. She's the mother of two little girls and must fend for them, and for herself, alone.
With the possible exception of Jeff-Hardy-getting-beaten-up-by-a-monster-heel-when-Serious-Yellow-T-Shirt-Kid-is-in-the-audience, there has NEVER been a more sympathetic person who's ever been WWF/E on-air talent, not Zach Gowan, not Trish on a leash, not World Champion Mysterio getting jobbed out left and right, not even Flair taking the last superkick of his WWE career at Mania.
She spent half her last run in a friggin' wheelchair and neck brace. Think about that, a widow in a wheelchair and neck brace, and the crowds ate it up when huge muscle-man "babyfaces" like "Big" Dave Batista and Undertaker laid their hands on her and actually assaulted her physically. You can't get those kinds of reactions unless you're an amazing heel.
Vickie is an amazing heel.
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Post by primetime110 on Oct 20, 2009 1:23:09 GMT -5
She seems like the teacher in school that everyone hates, Including other teachers.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Oct 20, 2009 1:55:02 GMT -5
I was just thinking earlier how much heat a team of Vickie & JBL would have gotten. But Vickie's a heel to a 'T.' On paper, she has no likable, redeeming qualities whatsoever. NONE. The catch-22 with Vickie, IMO, is that when you look beyond whats on paper - being Eddie Guerrero's widow, having 2 younger daughters at home to raise by herself - I think fans want to get behind her because of those circumstances. But she's such a raging [expletive] that she angers people that much more. Like if a Breast Cancer patient burnt down the Susan G. Komen Foundation offices just because. |
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