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Post by rrm15 on Apr 22, 2009 11:39:26 GMT -5
At certain times in the history of wrestling, people have gotten pushes that didn't really...pan out. When they were selected as being the person who would get this push, often there would be another person in the promotion who could have gotten the same push, and probably done better. What do you think are some good examples of this?
I've ALWAYS thought that Charlie Haas should have gotten Orlando Jordans push back in 04/05, as JBL's lackey. Haas and JBL actually are friends in real life, so I think the chemistry would have been better. Also, Haas is a better wrestler and more charismatic than Jordan was.
In the long run, this could have done wonders for Charlie's career, leading into a feud with Benoit with some damn good matches, and a huge run once he finally turned on JBL.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Apr 22, 2009 13:21:16 GMT -5
Good topic.
A bit of a left-field one, but how about Jerry Lawler getting Bob Backlund's push in 1994? He was pretty over as a heel, had MASSIVE beef with Bret Hart, and would have made a good transitional champ as a cowardly heel (which, Lawler was one of the masters at being). I would have given him longer than Backlund's few days and put the match with Diesel on a PPV too.
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Post by texan on Apr 22, 2009 14:57:24 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why.
Triple H was in line to win KOTR 1996, but that went to Stone Cold after the Curtain Call incident. Sadly, Triple H's career never recovered.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Apr 22, 2009 15:26:02 GMT -5
First one to come to mind was Triple H and Austin, for sure. But I think we all knew that Triple H was going to be fine anyways, so it's not like he needed to take off in 96 instead of 97.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Apr 22, 2009 15:43:26 GMT -5
Cryme Tyme should get a Tag Team Title push, They give the belts to thrown together tag teams or teams that aren't so over and the one tag team that is over flounders in the mid card. Its not right.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 22, 2009 15:44:22 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why. I think it was because Reed couldn't/didn't make it to the show where Steamboat was set to drop the strap, so they gave it to HTM instead. |
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 22, 2009 20:25:51 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why. Triple H was in line to win KOTR 1996, but that went to Stone Cold after the Curtain Call incident. Sadly, Triple H's career never recovered. Except for the fact that it has. |
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Post by rrm15 on Apr 22, 2009 20:46:01 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why. Triple H was in line to win KOTR 1996, but that went to Stone Cold after the Curtain Call incident. Sadly, Triple H's career never recovered. Except for the fact that it has. I'm preeeeeetty sure that was sarcasm... |
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Post by charlesmc206 on Apr 22, 2009 21:00:27 GMT -5
Nick Dinsmore should have gotten the push that Heidenreich got personally. He ended up doing really well for himself but i seriously doubt he will ever be able to move on from being a wrestling retard in the states.
(Yes, I know Dinsmore isn't a monster heel type but monster heels aren't the only guys that need or deserve managers.)
With a heat machine like Paul Heyman by his side I could see him as a solid mid to upper mid card guy for a long time in the Dean Malenko mold. Probably could put together a good tag team with him and one of the other OVW guys as well.
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Post by texan on Apr 23, 2009 8:34:01 GMT -5
Except for the fact that it has. I'm preeeeeetty sure that was sarcasm... Yeah, I was shootin' for sarcasm there  |
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 23, 2009 8:53:39 GMT -5
I'm preeeeeetty sure that was sarcasm... Yeah, I was shootin' for sarcasm there My bad. Kinda hard to tell sometimes. My apologies, sir. |
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Post by don on Apr 23, 2009 8:59:50 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a viable answer given the topic, but I would think Owen Hart in 1994. Now, I love Owen and think that he was one of the best wrestlers that I ever had the privilege of watching. However, in 1993, Owen was simply a part of a jobber tag team who were lucky to be employed. Then, simply on the merits of his last name, got a feud with the WWE champion!! I'm sure that there had to be some guys in the back that were pretty pissed. I think that they may have had a legitimate argument, so what if one of the other midcarders/main eventers from that era had been plugged into Owen's spot and became jealous of Bret's popularity?
That being said, I always thought that "Macho Man" Randy Savage could have pulled the role off, saying how pissed he was that the fans and the WW(F) had forgotten about and abandoned him and got behind the new flavor of the month in Bret Hart. I think it could have been an epic feud.
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Post by texan on Apr 23, 2009 9:13:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I was shootin' for sarcasm there My bad. Kinda hard to tell sometimes. My apologies, sir. No worries  |
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Post by dlg3000 on Apr 23, 2009 9:13:35 GMT -5
I think Chavo Guererro should have gotten a decent push somewhere along the line. It could be Rey, CM Punk, etc. Who do you think the other wrestler he should have gotten a push should have been? Is he a good example or not?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 23, 2009 9:16:35 GMT -5
I think that Razor Ramon should have had the WWF Title run in 1995 instead of Diesel. Razor was a far better worker and equally if not more over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 11:56:28 GMT -5
Cryme Tyme should get a Tag Team Title push, They give the belts to thrown together tag teams or teams that aren't so over and the one tag team that is over flounders in the mid card. Its not right. They have that "New Age Outlaws" heat; the pre-match spiel outweighs their actual ability in the ring. JTG is like the Road Dogg; he's the guy who's in the bulk of the match and gets his ass kicked. (I don't like JTG's look and could care less if he's in trouble; I'd like to see a heel yank that gold grill from his mouth.) Shad is Billy Gunn; bigger guy who doesn't use a lot of technique but knows enough overpowering moves to clean house and win matches. The policy is not to give belts to people that are already over, you put belts on guys who need a little extra something to build credibility. (IMO, the Punk-Kofi title reign was trying to get Kofi over a little more.) I've seen Cryme Tyme live (with Kofi, believe it or not), and they are definitely one of the high-points of the babyface locker room. Their pops are so huge it can blow the roof off of the building. (If Shad would just get a little better in the ring, I'd seriously buy him as a singles title threat.) Junkyard Dog should have gotten a better push, but it seems he had this lackadaisical attitude in title matches where "Eh, I lost (or Valentine fled the ring), no big deal." I liked JYD but he seemed like he didn't care all that much about titles, just having a good time. |
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Post by rrm15 on Apr 23, 2009 14:31:04 GMT -5
I think Chavo Guererro should have gotten a decent push somewhere along the line. It could be Rey, CM Punk, etc. Who do you think the other wrestler he should have gotten a push should have been? Is he a good example or not? I actually think Chavo has gotten pushed plenty, including an ECW title run. Speaking of WWE's ECW, here's another one: Umaga should have moved to ECW and won the title at December to Dismember and won the title instead of Lashley. They could have kept him undefeated with the belt for a long time, and eventually had him drop it to CM Punk. Punk would have been the first person to ever beat Umaga, which would have both made the ECW title look really important and put Punk over huge. |
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:41:00 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why. Triple H was in line to win KOTR 1996, but that went to Stone Cold after the Curtain Call incident. Sadly, Triple H's career never recovered. Except for the fact that it has. All those posts and no humour lol. I always wanted Janetty, at the time, to get HBKs push, & as a firm current dislike of Batista, I'd have preferred anyone from Jindrak, O'haire & Raines to Rhyno, Abyss or either member of Techno Team 2000. (I know it maybe wouldnt have fitted the story, but I'd have preferred a lot of people over Batista.) I know Batista's over huge, but the one time I cared for him was the run in to his turn and match against HHH, and since then I havent cared for him in the slightest unfortunately |
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 23, 2009 16:36:01 GMT -5
Except for the fact that it has. All those posts and no humour lol.  Actually, sir, I thought it was another HHHate post. And I was corrected. So there! |
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Apr 23, 2009 16:56:48 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a viable answer given the topic, but I would think Owen Hart in 1994. Now, I love Owen and think that he was one of the best wrestlers that I ever had the privilege of watching. However, in 1993, Owen was simply a part of a jobber tag team who were lucky to be employed. Then, simply on the merits of his last name, got a feud with the WWE champion!! I'm sure that there had to be some guys in the back that were pretty pissed. I think that they may have had a legitimate argument, so what if one of the other midcarders/main eventers from that era had been plugged into Owen's spot and became jealous of Bret's popularity? That being said, I always thought that "Macho Man" Randy Savage could have pulled the role off, saying how pissed he was that the fans and the WW(F) had forgotten about and abandoned him and got behind the new flavor of the month in Bret Hart. I think it could have been an epic feud. In Bret's book, he says that the office was pushing for a title feud with Bruce, wanting Bruce to be the one that got eliminated at Survivor Series and turn on Bret at the Rumble, but Bret suggested Owen instead. And the rest is history. |
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