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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Oct 23, 2009 15:23:09 GMT -5
I was just watching some videos on Daily Motion. Vader was in the Dungeon of Doom in July 1995, challenging Hulk Hogan for the WCW Title. By September, he was scheduled to be on Hogan's team in War Games against the Dungeon of Doom before he was fired by WCW for backstage issues. Now, I watched WCW religiously at the time, but I don't recall how they turned Vader. Can anyone help me out? Is there a video out there?
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Post by Triple Kelly on Oct 23, 2009 15:25:56 GMT -5
I vaguely remember that he saved Hulk from the Dungeon of Doom. For some reason.
Godz would be the one to talk about this cause he's a huge Hulk and Vader fan.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Oct 23, 2009 15:31:40 GMT -5
I vaguely remember that he saved Hulk from the Dungeon of Doom. For some reason. Godz would be the one to talk about this cause he's a huge Hulk and Vader fan. I remember that now. Hogan was being beaten down in the Dungeon and Vader showed up to save him. Then Vader had a standoff with The Giant. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 23, 2009 15:37:07 GMT -5
wasn't his feud with Flair and Anderson the reason he became a babyface?
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Oct 23, 2009 15:40:38 GMT -5
That makes sense. From doing a little bit of research, Vader saved Hogan the same night that he faced Flair and Anderson in a handicap match at Clash of the Champions 31.
I guess having him save Hogan that night was supposed to cement him as a babyface.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 23, 2009 15:41:52 GMT -5
And from what I can remember that Flair/Anderson handicap match was the last one he had in WCW. End of an era really.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Oct 23, 2009 15:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by Tyfo on Oct 23, 2009 16:57:20 GMT -5
Vader had formed a little stable of sorts with Flair and Anderson for a short time. It seems like the lost a 6 man tag match or something and Flair and Anderson decided to blame Vader, thus the handicap match at Clash of the Champions.
During this same time, Vader saved Hogan from the beatdown in the Dungeon of Doom.
I'm positive there was more to the Flair/Anderson/Vader angle leading into the turn but I can't remember what.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 24, 2009 5:29:39 GMT -5
I always thought he never really turned face, he just agreed to be on Hogans team until he quit
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 24, 2009 16:13:03 GMT -5
But why would he save Hogan? What could he gain by doing that?
Title shots? Face vs face wan't very common then, was it?
Join the man he couldn't beat? That doesn't sound like Vader's character at all.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 24, 2009 16:37:06 GMT -5
I heard somewhere before, that originally the Dungeon of Doom was meant to be a dark cult like stable. But looking back it is unintentionally goofy and funny. "SUUULLIVAAAAANN! MY SON!" |
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Post by spaceship on Oct 24, 2009 16:38:49 GMT -5
I remember in a locker room segment, Hogan saying he would (I think) promise to give Vader another title shot. This was sometime after the Bash at the Beach match.
Vader replyed (I think): That's the first time someone promised me something.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Oct 24, 2009 18:12:13 GMT -5
Macho's and Zodiac costumes look verry similar there. It looked like at first glance that Zodiac beat up Hogan, then saved him 10 seconds later.
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Post by Paco on Oct 24, 2009 18:12:33 GMT -5
From a review of Bash at the Beach '95:
"After the match, Ric Flair storms the ring to yell at Vader for losing to Hogan in what’s supposed to thought of as an impromptu moment as Tony and Bobby had already said their goodbyes. Flair gets in his face, so Vader starts to choke Flair back into a corner. Arn Anderson runs in for the save, but he gets scared away by Vader. Flair climbs out the cage to escape Vader as he and Arn head to the back. Once Vader starts making his way back there, he tells the camera he wants both Arn and Flair. Okay, now the PPV is over."
So that + Vader destroying Arn & Flair in a handicap match the following month at the Clash + saving Hogan from the D.O.D. = face turn
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Post by probable on Oct 24, 2009 18:34:32 GMT -5
I miss Vader. Both Darth and Leon.
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Post by Dean-o on Oct 24, 2009 21:11:05 GMT -5
But why would he save Hogan? What could he gain by doing that? Title shots? Face vs face wan't very common then, was it? Join the man he couldn't beat? That doesn't sound like Vader's character at all. I agree. Makes no sense.  |
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